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EffectAndCause
06/10/20 6:31:27 PM
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Why does it matter? Is being gay or labelled as gay a bad thing?
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Bestoffuture
06/10/20 6:32:59 PM
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They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.

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Vivec
06/10/20 6:38:36 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.


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DespondentDeity
06/10/20 6:40:14 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.


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ReignFury
06/10/20 6:44:00 PM
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I'd consider men who date trans "women" to be gay

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coh
06/10/20 6:50:30 PM
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They're bisexual
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Fam_Fam
06/10/20 6:51:09 PM
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ReignFury posted...
I'd consider men who date trans "women" to be gay

why do you put women in quotes
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Phantom36
06/10/20 6:51:27 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.


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COVxy
06/10/20 6:51:52 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.


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AsteriskChamps
06/10/20 6:52:39 PM
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Maybe there should be a term for cisgender men who date exclusively trans women
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hyperpowder
06/10/20 6:55:40 PM
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Honestly I feel like it's determined by how the sex is.

If your taking the d in the b then you're gay.
If you're giving the d in the b but have nothing to do with the other d, I dont think that's considered gay.

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TheRealDill2000
06/10/20 6:57:37 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.

This is an idealistic attitude, but it won't be the case until everyone (or at least a sizable majority) has this same view. Unfortunately, I don't think we will reach that point any time soon.
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bobaban
06/10/20 6:59:21 PM
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Have you actually seen these women. The post op trans strippers that work in the club have the V-shape of a man body and their ass is flatter and more muscular. Its very easy to tell. Thus those that like that are gay/bi.
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Tenlaar
06/10/20 6:59:27 PM
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AsteriskChamps posted...
Maybe there should be a term for cisgender men who date exclusively trans women
There is, it's fetishist.
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Cornmuffins
06/10/20 7:01:07 PM
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Been a while since I've seen one of these kind of topics.
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monkmith
06/10/20 7:01:38 PM
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if dating the opposite gender makes you hetrosexual.
and dating the same gender makes you homosexual.
does dating a transgender person make you transexual?

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ReignFury
06/10/20 10:53:34 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
why do you put women in quotes

Because theyre not natural born women


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The23rdMagus
06/10/20 10:55:47 PM
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At least these topics are good for encouraging people to out themselves. :/

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ChocoboMog123
06/10/20 11:01:25 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
This is an idealistic attitude, but it won't be the case until everyone (or at least a sizable majority) has this same view. Unfortunately, I don't think we will reach that point any time soon.
Why does it matter what a sizable majority think? Why does it matter what Grandma Bettie thinks about your trans wife?

Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.

Do you personally disagree?

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TheRealDill2000
06/11/20 3:40:16 AM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
This is an idealistic attitude, but it won't be the case until everyone (or at least a sizable majority) has this same view. Unfortunately, I don't think we will reach that point any time soon.
Why does it matter what a sizable majority think? Why does it matter what Grandma Bettie thinks about your trans wife?

Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.

Do you personally disagree?

It's not just Grandma Bettie though. Anti-LGBT sentiment is all over the place.
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teepan95
06/11/20 3:42:22 AM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.

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cardoor123
06/11/20 3:48:42 AM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Why does it matter? Is being gay or labelled as gay a bad thing?
Fucking comedy coming from a group of people who dedicate their lives trying to change sides. I guess according to this halfass logic, why should it matter if you were born into the wrong body? Is being labelled the opposite sex a bad thing?

Just stop fucking posting.
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Dark_SilverX
06/11/20 3:52:43 AM
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Yasssss Queen

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im not 13
06/11/20 4:07:28 AM
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So if I have sex with a man I'm gay but if he decides tomorrow he identifies as a woman I'm now straight ?

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AlmightyCheeks
06/11/20 4:08:32 AM
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Yes they are

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Dark_SilverX
06/11/20 4:09:48 AM
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im not 13 posted...
So if I have sex with a man I'm gay but if he decides tomorrow he identifies as a woman I'm now straight ?
yes


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AlmightyCheeks
06/11/20 4:51:30 AM
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BabyRoxann posted...
So much fragility here lmao
Yeah it seems you have quite a bit.

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joe40001
06/11/20 4:53:11 AM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
yes

That seems odd.

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Iodine
06/11/20 5:46:47 AM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.


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Wii_Shaker
06/11/20 6:13:22 AM
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Gay men can date trans women as well.

Since the trans woman in this relationship identifies as a woman, and the gay man man identifies as a man, is this a gay relationship?

The problem is with the labels. People love slapping labels on things.

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ChocoboMog123
06/11/20 6:24:35 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
It's not just Grandma Bettie though. Anti-LGBT sentiment is all over the place.
Pro-LBGT sentiment is all over the place, too.
Back in 2008, I remember people on this board saying gay marriage would never happen. Now it's mainstream. Maybe stop hanging out with bigots, or at least correct them when they say something bigoted. Change comes gradually until it doesn't.

Again:
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.
Do you personally disagree?
Do you think dating a trans person makes you gay?
Do you think it matters?
Do you think it's a bad thing to be gay?

You said those are idealistic, but that doesn't even address the question.

@cardoor123
why should it matter if you were born into the wrong body? Is being labelled the opposite sex a bad thing?
As someone who falls off the gender scale, I have some experience with this. It doesn't matter to me whether I was born with the "wrong body" or not. It should not matter to anyone how I or others feel about this personal issue. But, to someone experiencing body dysmorphia, it is an issue. They feel like they are not themselves, physically and socially, and it causes them pain. It matters to them.
I have never been one for gender, so I don't care what people call me. But to some people, being labelled the wrong gender is a bad thing, yes.
You are confusing what matters to someone as a personal issue with what should matter to others as a label or antagonistic issue.

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TheRealDill2000
06/11/20 7:16:24 AM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
It's not just Grandma Bettie though. Anti-LGBT sentiment is all over the place.
Pro-LBGT sentiment is all over the place, too.
Back in 2008, I remember people on this board saying gay marriage would never happen. Now it's mainstream. Maybe stop hanging out with bigots, or at least correct them when they say something bigoted. Change comes gradually until it doesn't.

Again:
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.
Do you personally disagree?
Do you think dating a trans person makes you gay?
Do you think it matters?
Do you think it's a bad thing to be gay?

You said those are idealistic, but that doesn't even address the question.

Gay marriage has been made legal, but that doesn't mean it has been accepted with open arms. In my area it's pretty common for people to make offensive jokes about LGBT people then follow it up with "But it's 2020. I guess that's okay now".

This shows that people are aware of the changing world, but deep-seated thoughts take time to shift. I don't expect widespread acceptance to occur for another generation or two.
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Fam_Fam
06/11/20 7:19:18 AM
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im not 13 posted...
So if I have sex with a man I'm gay but if he decides tomorrow he identifies as a woman I'm now straight ?

if you are a male and you choose to have sex with a male because of your sexual interest, you are a homosexual (i.e. gay, because of the same-sex attraction)

if they identify as a woman after, that is irrelevant. if they identify as a woman (but are still biologically male and would be identified as such by you) WHILE YOU ARE HAVING SEX, you are still gay, because you are still attracted to someone who you know is a male.

if you do not know their sex, then it's a bit less clear in my opinion. but homosexuality is the attraction to individuals who have the same sex as you as that time.

people mix up gender/sex all the time. whether or not they change what gender they identify with has no bearing on this.
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Solid Snake07
06/11/20 7:34:52 AM
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https://youtu.be/SaAn6I3DzPw

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DespondentDeity
06/11/20 7:57:46 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
In my area it's pretty common for people to make offensive jokes about LGBT people then follow it up with "But it's 2020. I guess that's okay now".

People aren't usually this excited to live in some backwards shit hole.

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Dyinglegacy
06/11/20 7:59:35 AM
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AsteriskChamps posted...
Maybe there should be a term for cisgender men who date exclusively trans women
Sounds like a fetish

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Joker98
06/11/20 8:00:21 AM
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transwomen are women so if a man has sex with her, that's a heterosexual thing to do

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EnragedSlith
06/11/20 8:17:58 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
Honestly I feel like it's determined by how the sex is.

If your taking the d in the b then you're gay.
If you're giving the d in the b but have nothing to do with the other d, I dont think that's considered gay.

well shit, bro, call the taskforce and grab your magnifying glass

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nemu
06/11/20 8:19:38 AM
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Realistically, it's some kind of variant, but there's really no reason to argue with someone on it.
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Solid Snake07
06/11/20 8:20:12 AM
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Sexuality is a spectrum man, you can really do whatever you want

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Iodine
06/11/20 5:17:40 PM
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AsteriskChamps posted...
Maybe there should be a term for cisgender men who date exclusively trans women
How would one go about doing this tho. Trans women are extremely rare.

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Sir Will
06/11/20 5:31:23 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
They're not.

It doesn't.

It shouldn't be.

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joe40001
06/11/20 6:05:49 PM
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Joker98 posted...
transwomen are women so if a man has sex with her, that's a heterosexual thing to do

Even if choose to look like a man?

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DontHateMe
06/11/20 6:22:41 PM
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Joker98 posted...
transwomen are women so if a man has sex with her, that's a heterosexual thing to do

I personally disagree, but I respect your opinion.

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