Current Events > NASCAR just banned the confederate flag.

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hockeybub89
06/10/20 9:33:47 PM
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"Stop the politics" says fans that ignored NRA, Trump-Pence, Blue Lives Matter, #PleaseStand, Oath Keepers, etc sponsors and say nothing about overt military worship and Christian prayer every single race.

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Kastrada
06/10/20 9:34:36 PM
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Jeff Gordon's sponsor was Dupont Paint. Flashy color scheme though.

Also I was so confused. Like who would hate Ricky Rudd?

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monkmith
06/10/20 9:35:18 PM
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Kastrada posted...
Jeff Gordon's sponsor was Dupont Paint. Flashy color scheme though.

Also I was so confused. Like who would hate Ricky Rudd?
ah, sorry. not sure why i though he was tide.

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Kastrada
06/10/20 9:41:55 PM
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monkmith posted...
ah, sorry. not sure why i though he was tide.

It makes sense though. Both color schemes were warm colors. Orange, yellow mixed.

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SiO4
06/10/20 9:43:39 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"Stop the politics" says fans that ignored NRA, Trump-Pence, Blue Lives Matter, #PleaseStand, Oath Keepers, etc sponsors and say nothing about overt military worship and Christian prayer every single race.


Heh, for real.
I didn't even know they did the prayer thing until a few years ago.
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Ruvan22
06/10/20 9:44:44 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I guess you could say NASCAR has made a turn to the left

Did you put on your sunglasses?
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SrRd_RacinG
06/10/20 9:45:32 PM
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Sephiroth C Ryu
06/10/20 9:45:55 PM
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I never really understood why people seem to like that flag so much.

They seceded, a war was fought, and then they lost. And unlike almost any other civil war ever, the losing side wasn't purged or anything, they were let back in.

Why do people like waving around the flag of the LOSING SIDE unless they think they never lost?
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ZannoL
06/10/20 10:16:11 PM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...
Rednecks gonna be upset.

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The Wheelman1
06/11/20 12:27:44 AM
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Muh hurritage

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 12:28:55 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Muh hurritage
Your heritage lost, buddy.
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ultimate reaver
06/11/20 12:31:01 AM
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...
I never really understood why people seem to like that flag so much.

They seceded, a war was fought, and then they lost. And unlike almost any other civil war ever, the losing side wasn't purged or anything, they were let back in.

Why do people like waving around the flag of the LOSING SIDE unless they think they never lost?
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People call it the rebel flag for more reasons than it being tied to the confederacy. Almost immediately after the war groups meant to oppress black people were using it as a rallying symbol

it helps that the south has been miseducating children about the civil war for many generations, and those children go on to misinform their children, etc. When I was a kid a lot of people would just tell you its a symbol of southern pride and not delve any deeper than that


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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 12:32:01 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
it helps that the south has been miseducating children about the civil war for many generations, and those children go on to misinform their children, etc. When I was a kid a lot of people would just tell you its a symbol of southern pride and not delve any deeper than that
It's even weirder in the old border states.
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cmiller4642
06/11/20 12:36:36 AM
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...
I never really understood why people seem to like that flag so much.

They seceded, a war was fought, and then they lost. And unlike almost any other civil war ever, the losing side wasn't purged or anything, they were let back in.

Why do people like waving around the flag of the LOSING SIDE unless they think they never lost?
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Honestly because a lot of the symbolism comes from the Jim Crow era.

A large number of Confederate fetish memorabilia comes from the days of segregation and a lot of older people in those states remember that fondly.

The south is also a very class divided area even to this day.
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hockeybub89
06/11/20 12:39:06 AM
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Bubba Wallace finished 11th today in the #BlackLivesMatter car and would have been well inside the top 10 if not for a bad final pit stop. He was driving his ass off.

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 12:39:20 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
The south is also a very class divided area even to this day.
A good old MLK-style bus boycott will fuck over shitty cities way harder than burning down a Target.
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PkmTrainerAbram
06/11/20 12:42:57 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
I prefer the final flag of the Confederacy





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cmiller4642
06/11/20 12:42:58 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
A good old MLK-style bus boycott will fuck over shitty cities way harder than burning down a Target.

It's not quite that simple. Those states still have a very defined caste system that they romanticize.

They have a huge population of poor people and pockets of aristocratic families. It translates into a lot of their political views as well.
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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 12:48:42 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
They have a huge population of poor people and pockets of aristocratic families. It translates into a lot of their political views as well.
That's why the Great Migration happened, yes. Too bad the racist dickholes came along, or were they already there?
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Webbernet
06/11/20 12:56:16 AM
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daGamexx posted...
Good

Kajagogo posted...
Good!

cmiller4642 posted...
Good

kyujo posted...
nice


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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 12:58:44 AM
#72:


Ohshit, Wallace is in the Cup Series now?
How the hell did I miss that?
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The_Bitcoin
06/11/20 1:04:01 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
It's not quite that simple. Those states still have a very defined caste system that they romanticize.

They have a huge population of poor people and pockets of aristocratic families. It translates into a lot of their political views as well.

this is really interesting. Can you tell me a bit more @cmiller4642 ?

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Thompson
06/11/20 1:04:33 AM
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Here's a phrase that can be told to folks upset about their "rebel" flag being banned at NASCAR venues: "If you don't like it, you can get out!"

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 1:05:03 AM
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Thompson posted...
Here's a phrase that can be told to folks upset about their "rebel" flag being banned at NASCAR venues: "If you don't like it, you can get out!"

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cmiller4642
06/11/20 1:43:37 AM
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This is a good read


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creativerealms
06/11/20 2:20:56 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
This is a good read

That reminds me Jr. was one of the few drivers (ex driver I think.) Who actually defended kneeling when most of NASCAR was agianst it happening.

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shnangyboos
06/11/20 2:23:01 AM
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Symbols and meanings change over time.

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jmikla
06/11/20 2:29:35 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
Symbols and meanings change over time.
Confederate flag would still be at Nascar if it had also been able to adapt over time.

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Kastrada
06/11/20 2:32:00 AM
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creativerealms posted...
That reminds me Jr. was one of the few drivers (ex driver I think.) Who actually defended kneeling when most of NASCAR was agianst it happening.

Dale is kinda liberal/moderate. His fanbase is just willfully ignorant but he's been pretty open about that stuff for years.

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 2:32:45 AM
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creativerealms posted...
That reminds me Jr. was one of the few drivers (ex driver I think.) Who actually defended kneeling when most of NASCAR was agianst it happening.
Dale was definitely a Southerner, but he tried to back off. Jr succeeded at it.
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creativerealms
06/11/20 2:33:53 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
Symbols and meanings change over time.
Yeah and for a while the Confederate flag had a very different meaning, it wasn't one of hate, then racists and murderers took it back.

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 2:41:45 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
Symbols and meanings change over time.
Would someone kindly explain to me why the Gadsden flag (Dont Tread on Me) is "bad" now?
I don't get it.
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UnholyMudcrab
06/11/20 2:47:33 AM
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kewldude475 posted...
Wrong, slavery isn't a right vs left issue. Most people would not want to be enslaved, whether right-wing, left-wing, or somewhere in the middle.

You took out a knife and stabbed that joke right in the heart. What did it do to deserve that?
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shnangyboos
06/11/20 2:49:29 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
You took out a knife and stabbed that joke right in the heart. What did it do to deserve that?


We're talking about fucking slavery goddamnit there's not a goddamn fucking thing funny about this.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/11/20 2:54:42 AM
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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 2:57:00 AM
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So long as rednecks can bring a cooler full of beer and whiskey into the stands, the battle flag ban will be forgiven fairly quickly
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Evening_Dragon
06/11/20 3:02:16 AM
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It was funny tho. Traditionally right wing-associated groups ascend from the slavery side of things.

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Axiom
06/11/20 3:07:45 AM
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kewldude475 posted...
The joke didn't make any sense to begin with. Ask any Republican if they'd be cool with being enslaved, and the answer would be no. So left/right wing politics don't apply here.
It shouldn't be but it is. The right fights for the flag as well as the confederate statues that no one else cares about
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Evening_Dragon
06/11/20 3:15:32 AM
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kewldude475 posted...
Don't you mean to say descend? Anyways, fair point.

Right, descend. Graphics got me fucked up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(biology)#/media/File:Tree_of_life_SVG.svg

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The_Bitcoin
06/11/20 8:14:50 AM
#95:


jmikla posted...
Confederate flag would still be at Nascar if it had also been able to adapt over time.

it adapted - for a bad thing.

the flag was actually not too popular after the end of the civil war until the civil rights was passed, then it was adapted as a symbol of f - u , black people, and the statues began popping up everywhere too.

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DevsBro
06/11/20 8:19:50 AM
#96:


PIITB415 posted...
Next year "Nascar experiences record low sales"
"It's probably... something else."

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Alexanaxela
06/11/20 9:12:52 AM
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i thought nascar sales were already declining year by year?
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DevsBro
06/11/20 10:51:24 AM
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I always picture some redneck saying "that's a nice car."

"That's a NASCAR."

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 10:59:23 AM
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DevsBro posted...
"It's probably... something else."
usually some futile attempt to slow the cars down, which only makes the races more boring and "the big one" even bigger when it happens anyway.
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Odoylerules
06/11/20 11:02:21 AM
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nascar sucks anyway

F1 is the only true racing
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