Current Events > imagine if america never stole california from mexico.

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WalkingLobsters
05/11/20 1:53:17 PM
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mexico would be in charge of the 5th largest economy in the world. They'd be a legit power and a force to reckon with. America would have none of these border problems if they didn't ruin them.

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Alucard188
05/11/20 1:56:36 PM
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Apparently California is responsible for its growth, and not being attached to the world's largest military and economic superpower at the time. I wonder what California would look like if it were attached to Mexico instead.

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Tenlaar
05/11/20 1:58:04 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
mexico would be in charge of the 5th largest economy in the world.
Surely you have to be aware of how there is absolutely no logic behind this statement at all, right?
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TroutPaste
05/11/20 2:00:17 PM
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It wouldn't have had that economic growth

A lot of California's development came from connection to midwest/east coast railroads

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coh
05/11/20 2:01:32 PM
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We didn't "steal" it from them.
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Zikten
05/11/20 2:02:26 PM
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we also took Texas from them
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Solid Snake07
05/11/20 2:02:52 PM
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Lol

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CruelBuffalo
05/11/20 2:02:53 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
mexico would be in charge of the 5th largest economy in the world. They'd be a legit power and a force to reckon with. America would have none of these border problems if they didn't ruin them.

Imagine if the Spanish & Mexicans never stole the land from the indigenous
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Shablagoo
05/11/20 2:03:02 PM
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Then wed have Madera del Acebo.

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Lord_Shadow
05/11/20 2:03:05 PM
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Lol what Fuck off if they couldn't hold it they shouldn't have it

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UnholyMudcrab
05/11/20 2:05:41 PM
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Zikten posted...
we also took Texas from them

Texas took themselves away from Mexico
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The Trent
05/11/20 2:06:19 PM
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don't mess with texas

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Balrog0
05/11/20 2:08:26 PM
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Yeah I dunno California is rich is natural resources and important harbors so whoever owns it definitely would benefit. People like to act like there's some secret sauce in California that attracts tech, it's called silicon valley because there's silica

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SauI_Goodman
05/11/20 2:09:00 PM
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America would also be guaranteed a republican president every time.

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Balrog0
05/11/20 2:09:25 PM
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Without California there's no Nixon or Reagan

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Zikten
05/11/20 2:10:18 PM
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without California, I bet we would still have a entertainment capital. but it would be somewhere else. maybe New York
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CruelBuffalo
05/11/20 2:14:10 PM
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Zikten posted...
without California, I bet we would still have a entertainment capital. but it would be somewhere else. maybe New York

part of the reason things were filmed in California was the sunshine and good weather. So no at NY
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itachi15243
05/11/20 2:15:53 PM
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Logistically we'd up source the labor and city through most of the country into roughly a 60 - 90 percent democratic lean by today with more citys in current rural and suburban areas. California would only be useful in 2020 for higher level coke and drug trafficking as america was a key part of what made it so strong

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CruelBuffalo
05/11/20 2:18:28 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
Logistically we'd up source the labor and city through most of the country into roughly a 60 - 90 percent democratic lean by today with more citys in current rural and suburban areas. California would only be useful in 2020 for higher level coke and drug trafficking as america was a key part of what made it so strong


The Central Valley in California is THE agricultural capital of the United States dude
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boxington
05/11/20 2:18:47 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Lol what Fuck off if they couldn't hold it they shouldn't have it
so, if someone runs up on you with a gun and steals your wallet, you shouldn't have it?

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Lord_Shadow
05/11/20 2:20:31 PM
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boxington posted...
so, if someone runs up on you with a gun and steals your wallet, you shouldn't have it?
If the Greatest Empire to Ever exist takes it ya

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PBusted
05/11/20 2:23:07 PM
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Imagine if the continents never split and we were still Pangaea.
Lord_Shadow posted...
If the Greatest Empire to Ever exist takes it ya
Very Nazi-esque statement tbh.
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KillerKhan420
05/11/20 2:24:01 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Texas took themselves away from Mexico

Do you know the history? Mexico literally encouraged Americans to become texians and have dual citizenship to America and Mexico. They panicked when it hit critical mass and started to really try and put their foot down, but by then too late.

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Lord_Shadow
05/11/20 2:24:39 PM
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PBusted posted...
Imagine if the continents never split and we were still Pangaea.

Very Nazi-esque statement tbh.
No it's not. it's simply a factual statement

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CruelBuffalo
05/11/20 2:25:15 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
Do you know the history? Mexico literally encouraged Americans to become texians and have dual citizenship to America and Mexico. They panicked when it hit critical mass and started to really try and put their foot down, but by then too late


Didnt Americans in Mexican Texas throw a fit that Mexico didnt want slavery
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PBusted
05/11/20 2:27:48 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
No it's not. it's simply a factual statement
Sounds like something a Nazi would say.
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Balrog0
05/11/20 2:29:01 PM
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That was something Americans in California didn't like either tbf. Even in the civil war, California is a union state but only just barely.

Tho that's mainly due to so cal, fuckin kern county dude


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SiO4
05/11/20 2:34:23 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Apparently California is responsible for its growth, and not being attached to the world's largest military and economic superpower at the time. I wonder what California would look like if it were attached to Mexico instead.


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KillerKhan420
05/11/20 2:36:31 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Didnt Americans in Mexican Texas throw a fit that Mexico didnt want slavery

The Mexican government did that as an excuse to come in, if they didn't find a problem there they'd find a problem elsewhere. They messed up by doing the whole Alamo thing, after that it was a done thing.

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CruelBuffalo
05/11/20 2:38:03 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
That was something Americans in California didn't like either tbf. Even in the civil war, California is a union state but only just barely.

Tho that's mainly due to so cal, fuckin kern county dude

Yup. The bay changed a lot since its super bigot days.

and before others yip at me yes no place in the US is without racism. Calm down. Go to bed.
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CruelBuffalo
05/11/20 2:38:17 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
The Mexican government did that as an excuse to come in, if they didn't find a problem there they'd find a problem elsewhere. They messed up by doing the whole Alamo thing, after that it was a done thing.

so yes.
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ThyCorndog
05/11/20 3:28:05 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Imagine if the Spanish & Mexicans never stole the land from the indigenous
I mean Mexicans are mostly either indigenous or mostly indigenous with some European ancestry

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Guerrilla Soldier
05/11/20 3:29:05 PM
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hollywood would be mexican

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Balrog0
05/11/20 3:31:32 PM
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metallica846 posted...
Texas is some of the best parts of Mexico that we stole.

Imo the whole area we took is pretty great, it should be more of an us vs them thing than anything

The southwest is the greatest region

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PrettyBoyFloyd
05/11/20 3:42:05 PM
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Then California wouldn't have the 5th largest economy in the World.

It'd be a bigger shit hole than it is now.

Hell even as a US state people are immigrating from California to escape.

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WalkingLobsters
05/11/20 3:43:24 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Then California wouldn't have the 5th largest economy in the World.

It'd be a bigger shit hole than it is now.

Hell even as a US state people are immigrating from California to escape.
wow that is racist

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Broseph_Stalin
05/11/20 6:04:01 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hell even as a US state people are immigrating from California to escape.

that's crazy that a state is growing with people leaving
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Squall28
05/11/20 6:06:25 PM
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metallica846 posted...
They are leaving California to come to Texas which is odd.

Because Texas rocks and Cali sucks

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