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DarkRoast
05/06/20 5:44:09 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6t_uyg_pF8&list=PL834FCA340E5D20DB&index=26

It's true and you know it

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Kaiganeer
05/06/20 5:47:09 PM
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it's good but 1-6 are all worse than 7-15 (including spin-offs) so nah
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DevsBro
05/06/20 5:47:35 PM
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They were right to choose 7 but 6 is not far behind.

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KFHEWUI
05/06/20 5:48:00 PM
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I love 6 but personally I believe 8 truly deserves a remake. It had some interesting ideas, but they botched the execution.

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DarkRoast
05/06/20 5:48:18 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
it's good but 1-6 are all worse than 7-15 (including spin-offs) so nah

No, FF6 holds up as least as well as FF7. Arguably better, as it has the better OST and FF7 looks like someone smeared Vaseline on vomit.

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Guerrilla Soldier
05/06/20 5:48:35 PM
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not with this current square enix
maybe in a decade or two if they start making good games again

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DarkRoast
05/06/20 5:48:52 PM
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KFHEWUI posted...
I love 6 but personally I believe 8 truly deserves a remake. It had some interesting ideas, but they botched the execution.

My only major complaint (besides the battle system, holy shit) is that FF8's story is told in the worst possible way.


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p-m
05/06/20 5:49:02 PM
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6 is awful

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DevsBro
05/06/20 5:49:06 PM
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KFHEWUI posted...
I love 6 but personally I believe 8 truly deserves a remake. It had some interesting ideas, but they botched the execution.
There's a difference between deserving and needing though.

8 needs a remake, 6 deserves a remake.

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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 5:49:45 PM
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FFMQHD could be something special.
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DarkRoast
05/06/20 5:50:10 PM
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DevsBro posted...
There's a difference between deserving and needing though.

8 needs a remake, 6 deserves a remake.

They just need to throw out 8's battle system entirely and start over.

Everything about the draw and junction system is bad and should not be retooled.

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Gafemage
05/06/20 5:51:57 PM
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I don't get the people who want remakes of late 16-bit RPGs, or anything in general from that era. It's literally the period in gaming that least warrants a "new coat of paint".
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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 5:53:15 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Everything about the draw and junction system is bad and should not be retooled.
A handful of minor tweaks could make it almost not horrible.
  • Draw about 15-20 spells at a time instead of maybe four.
  • "Item" command is always available, without having to specifically junction it.
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DevsBro
05/06/20 5:54:12 PM
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Gafemage posted...
I don't get the people who want remakes of late 16-bit RPGs, or anything in general from that era. It's literally the period in gaming that least warrants a "new coat of paint".
It's absolutely aged the best, but it still uses old design.

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Feline_Heart
05/06/20 5:55:59 PM
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Gafemage posted...
I don't get the people who want remakes of late 16-bit RPGs, or anything in general from that era. It's literally the period in gaming that least warrants a "new coat of paint".
More like it most warrants a new coat of paint. Those games might have great content but the ugly graphics and dated interfaces means that a remake could really help them to get even better

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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 5:56:37 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
dated interfaces
whut
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Gafemage
05/06/20 5:56:45 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
More like it most warrants a new coat of paint. Those games might have great content but the ugly graphics

fuck you
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Blue_Target
05/06/20 5:56:48 PM
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CreepySmile
05/06/20 5:57:14 PM
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Ff9

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Feline_Heart
05/06/20 5:57:36 PM
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Gafemage posted...
fuck you
Love you too, fam ;)

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Pancake
05/06/20 5:58:31 PM
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FFMQHD could be something special.

there was an unofficial remake of that floating around a little bit ago. it looked rad.
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Strider102
05/06/20 5:59:13 PM
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I want a full blown remake of the first Final Fantasy.

Or V.

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DarkRoast
05/06/20 5:59:21 PM
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CreepySmile posted...
Ff9

It hurts me to think that a game that was deliberately designed to be a throwback is, itself, now retro.

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Keith_Valentine
05/06/20 6:02:45 PM
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Fuck that , FF8 next. Fight me
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Turbam
05/06/20 6:03:24 PM
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2
So it could finally be a good game

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ChuckSDeuces
05/06/20 6:04:59 PM
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I don't like FFVI, but they'd also fuck it up for the people who do like it tbqh

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solosnake
05/06/20 6:06:17 PM
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Dude, no.

Think about what you are asking for.

The game would be split into 2 or 3 different parts at minimum with DLC exclusive espers and other trash like that.

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DarkBuster22904
05/06/20 6:13:45 PM
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You're absolutely right. It does deserve a good remake

So let's see. A ffvi remake would:

Be sold as at least two games, if not more, based on how they carve it up

Have a completely different story

Massive overreliance on kefka right out of the gate

Turn terra, Biggs, and wedge's intro segment into a four hour game stretch

A completely different combat system

Completely rewrite the story in a blatant bid to make a new timeline where the world isnt destroyed

Loot boxes full of moogles? Probably.

...yeah, square enix of 2020 can keep its filthy mitts off of final fantasy 6. And 9. And chrono Trigger. Fuck, I wouldnt even want them making a TWEWY sequel at this point. Hire better writers.

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DevsBro
05/06/20 6:15:21 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
You're absolutely right. It does deserve a good remake

So let's see. A ffvi remake would:

Be sold as at least two games, if not more, based on how they carve it up

Have a completely different story

Massive overreliance on kefka right out of the gate

Turn terra, Biggs, and wedge's intro segment into a four hour game stretch

A completely different combat system

Completely rewrite the story in a blatant bid to make a new timeline where the world isnt destroyed

Loot boxes full of moogles? Probably.

...yeah, square enix of 2020 can keep its filthy mitts off of final fantasy 6. And 9. And chrono Trigger. Fuck, I wouldnt even want them making a TWEWY sequel at this point. Hire better writers.
Bitter much?

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Payzmaykr
05/06/20 6:18:40 PM
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If it was the original team, I would agree. Its just like one band covering another bands song, at this point. FF7 remake seems to be an absolute disaster and cash grab. They cannot accept the fact that people want normal JRPGs. We dont want some new action or real-time gameplay. Just make it normal.

They havent made a good FF game since X, and havent made a great one since IX. XII was garbage and two of the numbered games in the series are online only, meaning that the games will eventually cease to exist when the servers are inevitably shut down. There will be two holes in the series lineup. 13 was passable, but they really went downhill making it into its own series. Then XV was one of the laziest action RPGs Ive played, even considering third party devs.
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Veggeta X
05/06/20 6:20:32 PM
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yes it does I agree with TC

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DarkBuster22904
05/06/20 6:20:36 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Bitter much?
Hardly. But if we were to get a ffvi remake, I'd like a ffvi remake, not Nomura jerking himself off for thirty hours again.

Tbh I'd really love to see Nomura and Kojima collaborate on some big project together. The artsy convoluted fuckery of it all would be glorious.

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DarkRoast
05/06/20 6:21:42 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Hardly. But if we were to get a ffvi remake, I'd like a ffvi remakex not Nomura jerking himself off for thirty hours again.

Tbh I'd really love to see Nomura and Kojima collaborate on some big project together. The artsy convoluted fuckery of it all would be glorious.

There's a self awareness to Kojima's snobbery, though.

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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 6:22:16 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Tbh I'd really love to see Nomura and Kojima collaborate on some big project together. The artsy convoluted fuckery of it all would be glorious.
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Veggeta X
05/06/20 6:23:09 PM
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I hope they make Kefka more a joke than before. Lamest villain ever

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DarkRoast
05/06/20 6:23:12 PM
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Kojima's games are basically dedicated to trolling the player. That's the point.

Death Stranding is trolling taken to the ultimate extreme.

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DarkRoast
05/06/20 6:23:41 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I hope they make Kefka more a joke than before. Lamest villain ever

He's literally a clown. You can't make him more of a joke than that.

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Veggeta X
05/06/20 6:24:32 PM
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Well most people think he's not just the greatest FF villain ever but the greatest villain of all

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DarkRoast
05/06/20 6:26:14 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Well most people think he's not just the greatest FF villain ever but the greatest villain of all

He's the only one that's truly comic book evil. Like not even an ounce of motivation beyond being evil.

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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 6:26:46 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I hope they make Kefka more a joke than before.
...is Paul Reubens available?

[edit: okay that would be fucking awesome]
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Veggeta X
05/06/20 6:30:03 PM
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Well, actually

Kefka is thirty-five years old and Emperor Gestahl's right-hand man. He joined the Empire and if anything is he was just an above average soldier that rose through the ranks. At least sixteen years ago Kefka volunteered himself to be the first experimental Magitek Knight, it gifted him magical power, but shattered his sanity as the process had not been perfected yet. Kefka became a cruel, destructive madman, and acquired a reputation as one of the most dangerous men in the Gestahlian Empire. Gestahlian thought it was a success. About six years after the procedure, the imperial military was restructured with Kefka and Leo being involved.

So he was evil for the sake of being evil because he was brain damaged from a broken science project.

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DevsBro
05/06/20 6:43:33 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
He's the only one that's truly comic book evil. Like not even an ounce of motivation beyond being evil.
lmao what

What about the literal Cloud of Darkness that tried to destroy the universe just because in 3, or the sorceress from the future who wanted to kompress time just because she (thought she) was the only one who could survive it in 8? Or the... pokey... thing... that lives on the moon and posses good people to make them evil for no reason in 4? Or the guy named EX-DEATH?

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Cobra1010
05/06/20 6:44:38 PM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
not with this current square enix
maybe in a decade or two if they start making good games again

Yeah everything they touch turn to shit.

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Veggeta X
05/06/20 6:44:46 PM
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FF3 was dated.

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cuttin_in_farm
05/06/20 6:48:07 PM
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Turbam posted...
2
So it could finally be a good game

Tbh, I could totally see this game being good with a remake. It has a core cast and just cycles out the 4th. Not a bad idea tbh.

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Tyranthraxus
05/06/20 6:52:08 PM
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DevsBro posted...
There's a difference between deserving and needing though.

8 needs a remake, 6 deserves a remake.

8 doesn't need a remake. 7 arguably did because the models they used were like defective Lego factory rejects. 8 actually used normal people so it holds up remarkably better.

6 could definitely benefit the most from a full on remake.

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Blue_Inigo
05/06/20 6:55:03 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Hardly. But if we were to get a ffvi remake, I'd like a ffvi remake, not Nomura jerking himself off for thirty hours again.

Tbh I'd really love to see Nomura and Kojima collaborate on some big project together. The artsy convoluted fuckery of it all would be glorious.
Idk man it just sounds like you have shit tastes

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Tyranthraxus
05/06/20 6:57:34 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
He's the only one that's truly comic book evil. Like not even an ounce of motivation beyond being evil.

It's more complicated than that.

after the magitek shit Veggeta X talked about, he didn't immediately just "go evil" he was completely emotionless at first. He couldn't find joy in anything including stuff he previously enjoyed. Until one day he saw someone suffering and that made him feel a little better and he later found out that the only thing that would make him happy is if he made other people miserable.

so "evil for the sake of being evil" yeah, in a sense, but it's not like he has no motivation for it.

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