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toyota
04/29/20 12:22:16 PM
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"Face masks wont help bro, only sick people should wear them"

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html

WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick

Is that meme still being pushed? I have no idea why people were pushing or even listening to that dumbass shit a few months ago

How the hell is not having a mask supposed to be better than having some form of barrier/makeshift mask? ffs walking around with a gym sock or pair of panties tied around your face surely has got to be better than nothing if your goal was to minimise spreading/contracting covid19. it made no sense at the time. Now look whats happening. im pretty sure i read a few weeks back that some places in europe its mandatory now to wear them if you go into the grocery store and stuff?

There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly,

Just from the above posted article. How the fuck does that make any sense at all. And we were all expected to follow it and accept it?

How is having an improperly fitted/misused mask supposed to be more risk than being 100% exposed? I dont know about you, but a barrier is a barrier. Even if a mask isnt on properly that is still a bit of protection than having absolutely nothing at all.

Its like some absurd demoralisation/gas-lighting technique or something where they were trying to make you accept something when clearly deep down you know it makes no sense at all.
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onedarksoul
04/29/20 12:24:42 PM
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toyota posted...
Just from the above posted article. How the fuck does that make any sense at all. And we were all expected to follow it and accept it?
Indeed. And the WHO has made a ton more mistakes than that. But apparently, youtube, twitter and a bunch of tech companies still push their nonsense and punish anyone who doesn't agree.

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Jabodie
04/29/20 12:25:39 PM
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toyota posted...
How is having an improperly fitted/misused mask supposed to be more risk than being 100% exposed? I dont know about you, but a barrier is a barrier. Even if a mask isnt on properly that is still a bit of protection than having absolutely nothing at all.
Probably something like the bicycle helmet effect.

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Fam_Fam
04/29/20 12:26:05 PM
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toyota posted...
"Face masks wont help bro, only sick people should wear them"

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html

Is that meme still being pushed? I have no idea why people were pushing or even listening to that dumbass shit a few months ago

How the hell is not having a mask supposed to be better than having some form of barrier/makeshift mask? ffs walking around with a gym sock or pair of panties tied around your face surely has got to be better than nothing if your goal was to minimise spreading/contracting covid19. it made no sense at the time. Now look whats happening. im pretty sure i read a few weeks back that some places in europe its mandatory now to wear them if you go into the grocery store and stuff?

Just from the above posted article. How the fuck does that make any sense at all. And we were all expected to follow it and accept it?

How is having an improperly fitted/misused mask supposed to be more risk than being 100% exposed? I dont know about you, but a barrier is a barrier. Even if a mask isnt on properly that is still a bit of protection than having absolutely nothing at all.

Its like some absurd demoralisation/gas-lighting technique or something where they were trying to make you accept something when clearly deep down you know it makes no sense at all.

people who have masks on that don't fit will often touch their face more to fix/check it (or just touch it more even if they do fit to adjust). this increases their risk.
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masticatingman
04/29/20 12:29:18 PM
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Id say wearing gloves would be much more helpful at stores than masks really. People are just constantly touching things.

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Alpha218
04/29/20 12:30:50 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Id say wearing gloves would be much more helpful at stores than masks really. People are just constantly touching things.
Thats what the hand washing is for.

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s0nicfan
04/29/20 12:33:02 PM
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toyota posted...
I dont know about you, but a barrier is a barrier.

This is the thing, we're talking about a virus not a chunk of food. You say a barrier is a barrier, but if somebody created a fence to keep you out and the posts were 15 miles apart then you can pretty easily walk through as if there was no barrier at all. That's the problem.

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thronedfire2
04/29/20 12:34:50 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Id say wearing gloves would be much more helpful at stores than masks really. People are just constantly touching things.

This would true if people knew how to use gloves correctly. Most people will just cross contaminate things even more

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LightHawKnight
04/29/20 12:36:28 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
This would true if people knew how to use gloves correctly. Most people will just cross contaminate things even more

I mean the same could be said for masks. Most people don't know how to use them at all. They will touch the mask portion to adjust it, or take it off temporarily defeating a large portion of wearing the mask to begin with.

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Gen5_AppleJack
04/29/20 12:36:43 PM
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Meh, I still wear one in public

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Paragon21XX
04/29/20 12:38:50 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Id say wearing gloves would be much more helpful at stores than masks really. People are just constantly touching things.

https://youtu.be/EuUA05Y-ixY
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toyota
04/29/20 12:42:40 PM
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Gen5_AppleJack posted...
Meh, I still wear one in public

And so you should. Dont let these 'facemasks wont help bro' types make you feel ashamed about it. If doctors are doing it, then hey imma do it too. Remember when they were all pushing the 'the regular flu is worse' meme

There was a lot of shit that I was calling out from the beginning. That I was getting warned and modded for cos it was 'spreading conspiracies'. From socially distancing from certain people i deemed high risk, to grabbing a few packs of toilet paper and non perishables. now all that shit i used to call out became the norm and reality that is being done on a wide scale

Oh no back in Feb i couldnt point out I was avoid certain places and restaurants. Fast forward. everything is shut down!!!

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monkmith
04/29/20 12:45:44 PM
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it was fairly obvious at the beginning that they were telling people not to wear masks because even hospitals were having trouble getting them. misinformation to keep down the dumbfuck hoarding that would fuck over even more people.

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NinjaBreakfast
04/29/20 12:49:27 PM
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Could you explain how saying you were avoiding Asian people in America a month ago is now justified by everywhere being shut down

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jmikla
04/29/20 12:52:45 PM
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Mask just puts you at risk of other illness. Mask will accumulate airborne particulate and once you take it off, you liberate it all on front of your exposed mouth and nostrils. Its a cesspool for bacterial growth, fungi, as well as prions.

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toyota
04/29/20 1:08:13 PM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Could you explain how saying you were avoiding Asian people in America a month ago is now justified by everywhere being shut down

hey man it was feb. I was taking this shit seriously from the beginning when everyone was still joking about it.

I have asian friends and know how much of a deal chinese new year is and how its not exactly uncommon to be going overseas during that period or having family come in from overseas to celebrate. So was it really insane and unreasonable for me to refuse to come out when ppl wanted to eat at certain restaurants? Where workers/patrons could have relatives currently staying with them from overseas? Was I supposed to ignore those facts just to avoid being called a racist or something (which im not btw, regardless of what conspiracies you spread about me)? Heck I didnt want to go to any restaurants or anywhere that i didnt really need to be period during that time.

Fast forward a month later and pretty much everything is on lockdown so I say I was pretty much right for not wanting to go out to eat and stuff during that period. FFS I havent even ordered pizza or fast food for months. Regardless of drive thru or contactless delivery bs.
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hockeybub89
04/29/20 1:09:19 PM
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jmikla posted...
Mask just puts you at risk of other illness. Mask will accumulate airborne particulate and once you take it off, you liberate it all on front of your exposed mouth and nostrils. Its a cesspool for bacterial growth, fungi, as well as prions.
I can't believe healthcare workers are allowed to wear disease vectors on their faces when they don't even help unless you're already sick.

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SoundNetwork
04/29/20 1:17:51 PM
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masks aren't effective because people are stupid and wearing them gives people a false sense of security.

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onedarksoul
04/29/20 1:22:21 PM
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Also, whats up with people wearing masks while they're in their car, alone, with the windows rolled up? So strange to see that.

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SoundNetwork
04/29/20 1:25:31 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
Also, whats up with people wearing masks while they're in their car, alone, with the windows rolled up? So strange to see that.
probably came from an area with people and driving to another area with people

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onedarksoul
04/29/20 1:27:10 PM
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You're alone, in the car. Just doesn't make sense.

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hockeybub89
04/29/20 1:27:51 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
You're alone, in the car. Just doesn't make sense.
They didn't take it off? Not very confusing

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onedarksoul
04/29/20 1:31:13 PM
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It isn't. There's no reason to have it on is what I'm getting at.

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hockeybub89
04/29/20 1:32:02 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
It isn't. There's no reason to have it on is what I'm getting at.
Do you know that they are never leaving their car?

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solosnake
04/29/20 1:32:20 PM
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They should get rid of the WHO, they have been nothing but disgraceful through all of this

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hockeybub89
04/29/20 1:33:04 PM
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solosnake posted...
They should get rid of the WHO, they have been nothing but disgraceful through all of this
We should get rid of multiple national governments too

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Lebronwon
04/29/20 1:34:12 PM
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I remember when the WHO said there is no evidence corona can't be spread through packages. It was an obvious conclusion. If corona survives on surfaces a box is a surface so it would probably last on it at least a few hours. I kinda just stopped caring what they said and used my own common sense. The mask thing was weird too. If it helps health care providers then if you use the name N95 mask it would help you too.

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CapnMuffin
04/29/20 1:34:19 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
It isn't. There's no reason to have it on is what I'm getting at.
They dont want to touch and contaminate the mask sooner than necessary

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Tony_Biggie_Pun
04/29/20 1:34:40 PM
#30:


toyota posted...
"Face masks wont help bro, only sick people should wear them"

You got a point with that. I remember before the lock downs I said I'm wearing a face mask and then I was mocked


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solosnake
04/29/20 1:34:47 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
The mask thing was weird too. If it helps health care providers then if you use the name N95 mask it would help you too.

Lebronwon posted...
common sense.


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thronedfire2
04/29/20 1:35:21 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I can't believe healthcare workers are allowed to wear disease vectors on their faces when they don't even help unless you're already sick.

They arent, technically. Youre supposed to use PPE once and throw it away, not reuse the same mask for weeks like they are now

if we werent in the middle of a pandemic all these hospitals reusing PPE would get fined out the ass for violating health codes

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Tony_Biggie_Pun
04/29/20 1:35:27 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
I kinda just stopped caring what they said and used my own common sense.

Very important in this day and age lol

The media and establishments are extremely unreliable

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toyota
04/29/20 1:40:48 PM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
Very important in this day and age lol

The media and establishments are extremely unreliable

solosnake posted...
They should get rid of the WHO, they have been nothing but disgraceful through all of this

Hey man, last time I said i lost faith in them because of all the conflicting stuff i got sent to purgatory for 'conspiracies'. THen as soon as i get back a lot of people had the same sentiment and then trump pulled funding
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jmikla
04/29/20 3:33:58 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
fine... ass


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toyota
04/29/20 9:49:35 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
I remember when the WHO said there is no evidence corona can't be spread through packages. It was an obvious conclusion. If corona survives on surfaces a box is a surface so it would probably last on it at least a few hours

Thats what i mean, there were all of these so obvious conflicting shit they were saying but then if you pointed it out you are treated like a conspiracy theorist. Remember they were even saying it doesnt spread human to human at one point.

I mean there has got to be a word for all this, like an oxymoron but for the info we were given. Like is it some sort of gaslighting or something where in the info they were giving there were obvious clashes that just didnt make sense

How about both parties (both sick and non-sick) wear masks to double up on that protection/spread-prevention?

Say if a sick person has a mask
they sneeze in mask in the vicinity of other people. some droplets escape
For the surrounding people, how is having no mask and being 100% exposed supposed to be better than having a mask on your face, heck even some old panties wrapped around your face.
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ChuckSDeuces
04/29/20 9:53:50 PM
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I saw a post on facebook that made me laugh that was basically like

"If you're naked, and some guy pisses on you, you get piss all over you. If you're wearing pants, it gets on the pants and just gets a little bit on you. If he's wearing pants it's on his pants and not on you."

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REMercsChamp
04/29/20 9:56:35 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure the WHO and other health organizations who are saying this about masks are wrong and Joe Shit Public knows the truth, right

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toyota
04/29/20 10:00:12 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Yeah, I'm sure the WHO and other health organizations who are saying this about masks are wrong and Joe Shit Public knows the truth, right

They also said it didnt spread human to human.

If they really didnt help at all and are just placebo then why were healthcare workers using makeshift ones when supplies were low?
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REMercsChamp
04/29/20 10:05:32 PM
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toyota posted...
They also said it didnt spread human to human.

If they really didnt help at all and are just placebo then why were healthcare workers using makeshift ones when supplies were low?

I'm not sure. The cloth masks are supposedly useful in stopping you from spreading germs but not from protecting yourself against the virus so that might be why. I'm sure the disease is flying around in hospitals and lots of people are infected.

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toyota
04/29/20 10:09:06 PM
#42:


Exactly so why not wear some makeshift ones anyways. Do what ever little bit you can to minimise spread and contraction.

Anyone could possibly have it out there and dont know it so why not encourage people to use masks instead of pushing the 'better off without masks' silliness
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REMercsChamp
04/29/20 10:09:51 PM
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toyota posted...
Exactly so why not wear some makeshift ones anyways. Do what ever little bit you can to minimise spread and contraction.
Sure, I agree with that. i don't agree with the people saying it protects them because no health authority is coming out and saying that, although it appears to be a common misconception.

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toyota
04/29/20 10:14:04 PM
#44:


REMercsChamp posted...
i don't agree with the people saying it protects them


Who cares. the person who is wearing it because they think it will protect them is possibly an asymptomatic carrier themselves without knowing. So regardless they are better off with one on to minimise them spreading it.

Objectively speaking, Mask > No mask regardless of situation/reason it is being worn. Period!!!!
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CapnMuffin
04/29/20 10:23:24 PM
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If anything the mask is a solid reminder for me to not unconsciously touch my face or mouth.

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toyota
04/30/20 5:25:42 AM
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CapnMuffin posted...
If anything the mask is a solid reminder for me to not unconsciously touch my face or mouth.

Exactly. There is always a benefit of a mask over not having one

These mask deniers are serious morons. And their smugness about it is ridiculous
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JTilly
04/30/20 5:39:01 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Yeah, I'm sure the WHO and other health organizations who are saying this about masks are wrong and Joe Shit Public knows the truth, right
Lol imagine defending WHO

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alexadorable
04/30/20 6:31:17 AM
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I mean. isn't it everyone's own choice whether or not they want to wear a mask? regardless of the reasoning behind it all and what certain organisations say?

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VanananaHeyHey
04/30/20 6:41:51 AM
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The masks people wear shouldn't be the same as the ones medical professionals wear. A few bandanas getting washed after each outing is definitely better than being totally exposed. Hoarding medical-grade masks because you want to emulate the scariest part of E.T. when you put away your groceries is bad.

TC, this is a novel virus. The WHO are giving updated information as they learn more. Their admonition against masks is because average people are being unreasonable hoarders and driving themselves into panics on purpose. The WHO has to say things like "it won't live on surfaces forever, you can open mail" and "please, please, please, please, please don't try UV enemas" and "don't eat certain animals" because it's their job, even if it's obvious.

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iPhone_7
04/30/20 6:50:04 AM
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Its safer to not wear masks or gloves at all!

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thronedfire2
04/30/20 7:13:28 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Its safer to not wear masks or gloves at all!

It actually is safer to not wear gloves at all if youre not going to use them correctly. And you still need to wash your hands

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toyota
04/30/20 9:14:25 AM
#52:


alexadorable posted...
I mean. isn't it everyone's own choice whether or not they want to wear a mask? regardless of the reasoning behind it all and what certain organisations say?

Yes it should be everyones choice and no one should be arrested or anything like that for not wearing one

But its absolutely ridiculous and makes no sense that some governments and organisations are literally recommending not to wear a mask over wearing one.

There is no logic behind it. Its literally better than nothing.

Then these same morons promoting anti-mask use wonder why there are jackasses out on the street saying this is all fake and wanting to open everything up and fuck everything up further.
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