Board 8 > How high do you rank BotW within the Zelda series?

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redrocket
04/26/20 8:23:53 AM
#1:


How does BotW Rank?





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plasmabeam
04/26/20 9:08:28 AM
#2:


Top 10. It's the worst 3D Zelda but still good.

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UF8
04/26/20 9:22:38 AM
#3:


on the brink of bottom 5
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snake_5036
04/26/20 11:10:12 AM
#4:


BotW
MM
Zelda 2
ALttP
WWHD

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Grimlyn
04/26/20 11:11:10 AM
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#2 with Majora's Mask

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tazzyboyishere
04/26/20 11:16:11 AM
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Probably 11 or 12

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SantaRPidgey
04/26/20 11:34:07 AM
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It probably glitches back and forth with OoT as number 2 depending on what metrics I use to measure greatness at any specific moment

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FFDragon
04/26/20 11:41:46 AM
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Solid number 5

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Ngamer64
04/26/20 11:56:54 AM
#9:


Top three with a chance at #1 after my replay.


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paperwarior
04/26/20 12:05:16 PM
#10:


Well, it's barely a Zelda game if you compare it to the others. It's got the best premise outside of Majora's Mask. And it stands out within its adopted genre as one of the best. I'd have to say pretty high up but kind of not the same thing.

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kilafer
04/26/20 12:28:38 PM
#11:


In my top five.

In no particular order.

LTTP, LBW, TP, SS, and BotW.

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colliding
04/26/20 12:31:32 PM
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Don't trust anyone who doesn't have it at least in their top 5.
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04/26/20 12:31:59 PM
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swordz9
04/26/20 12:33:44 PM
#14:


Ive only played like 5-6 LoZs for the most part I think and it would rank pretty low among them.
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Blue-G
04/26/20 12:42:58 PM
#15:


LA > BotW > Those other ones

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pjbasis
04/26/20 1:16:49 PM
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Tough. I love the zelda formula too much to put BotW in my Top 5. OoT, MM, LttP, LA, Oracles....and I love me some NES Zelda too...

So it's basically under all the zeldas I love, but above all the ones I don't love, which is an easy top 10.

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redrocket
04/26/20 6:13:26 PM
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Up

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foolm0r0n
04/26/20 6:19:47 PM
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Are there even 10 Zeldas?

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redrocket
04/26/20 7:10:24 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Are there even 10 Zeldas?

Yes

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Jakyl25
04/26/20 7:20:41 PM
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I think there are literally more than 10 Zeldas
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Ryokles
04/26/20 8:18:58 PM
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ninkendo posted...
#2 after Majora's Mask


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Junior_AIN
04/26/20 8:48:18 PM
#22:


Majora
Wind Waker
Botw
Ocarina
Lbw....


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04/26/20 9:01:05 PM
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ExThaNemesis
04/26/20 9:46:44 PM
#24:


Top three with OoT and MM. I could rank those three in any order depending on the day.

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White_Turtle
04/26/20 10:03:56 PM
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Take out weapon durability and it becomes a top 10 Zelda. Add some actual dungeons with the level of complexity the previous games had and it's probably too 3.

As it stands, the only mainline Zelda worse than it is Zelda 2 (Note I have not played Skyward Sword because lol motion controls)
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pjbasis
04/26/20 10:10:58 PM
#26:


White_Turtle posted...
(Note I have not played Skyward Sword because lol motion controls)

One of the best parts of SS actually!

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foolm0r0n
04/26/20 10:46:10 PM
#27:


White_Turtle posted...
Take out weapon durability and it becomes a top 10 Zelda. Add some actual dungeons with the level of complexity the previous games had and it's probably too 3.
BOTW 2 hype

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RotA_Exodia
04/26/20 10:54:26 PM
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1 Ocarina of Time
2 Minish Cap
3 Breath of the Wild
4 Oracle of Ages
5 Phantom Hourglass

Side Note: I played OoT the first time in 2012.
Games I played but lost interest very soon:
  • Skyward Sword
  • Spirit Tracks
  • A Link to the Past
  • Zelda II (lol)


Havent touched other Zeldas.

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TomNook
04/26/20 11:13:57 PM
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Top 10. Not a knock against it. But it's hard to put it over Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and the 3 iconic handheld ones.

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Shonen_Bat
04/26/20 11:23:59 PM
#30:


Near the bottom, probably.

Minish Cap
BotW
Triforce Heroes if you want to count it
Phantom Hourglass

something like that


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LOLIAmAnAlt
04/26/20 11:30:12 PM
#31:


3
It's the best 3d zelda

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INTERWEBUSER
04/27/20 1:10:51 AM
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I think it ranks high on the list of walking simulators...but as a game, not high

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HanOfTheNekos
04/27/20 1:29:57 AM
#33:


White_Turtle posted...
Add some actual dungeons with the level of complexity the previous games had and it's probably too 3.

???


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ctesjbuvf
04/27/20 7:09:58 AM
#34:


pjbasis posted...
One of the best parts of SS actually!

Reason I didn't get through it...

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KokoroAkechi
04/27/20 8:43:26 AM
#35:


In terms of mainline games

Ocarina of Time
Twilight Princess
A Link to the Past
Zelda 1
Breath of the Wild
The Wind Waker
Zelda 2
Majora's Mask
Skyward Sword

So right in the middle. I 100% don't like it as much as my top 3 but it's close between i and Zelda 1. But I consider Zelda 1, albeit simple now in comparison to the future games, to not have any real glaring flaws in its design and to be a very fun experience throughout. BotW has flashier moments and more things that gets me engaged in the game, but also huge patches of dull nothingness and I don't think having a lot of small things to do in the game really makes up for the lack of what I perceive to be huge dungeon set pieces that have dominated the 3D games.

In some ways It's similar to The Wind Waker as that game also has large stretches where you do nothing, but it trades wandering around for less time with not really having any small things to do in the game. As far as combat goes WW had the best until BotW imo.

Oh, and I'd say the only game that is bad is Skyward Sword. It's not even the motion controls (although at times it feels kind of wonky). It's more that the game is just a million fetch quests. It's like they took everything people didn't like about the other 3d games and put it into this one. Or, they took things that were just fun excursions in previous titles and made them into a chore in Skyward Sword. Nevermind the snail pace the actual game goes at and just the bevy of repeated content. The only real saving points are 2 amazing dungeons in Lanaryu and Sandship.

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foolm0r0n
04/27/20 9:22:23 AM
#36:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
???
Previous Zelda games were defined by these really intricate dungeons with exploration and puzzles and items and such. They were really cool.

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HanOfTheNekos
04/30/20 2:12:01 PM
#37:


foolm0r0n posted...
Previous Zelda games were defined by these really intricate dungeons with exploration and puzzles and items and such. They were really cool.

Which Zelda games? Skyward Sword?

Seems weird for this to be an argument people make while also putting OoT at the top of their lists.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/30/20 2:23:43 PM
#38:


KokoroAkechi posted...
In terms of mainline games [list of all console games]

Ignoring the handheld games because they're not "mainline" is a travesty, because LA, the Oracles, and ALBW are better than most of the console games. And that's almost half of a top 10 right there!

I'm not super big on BOTW but it's still in my Top 10 Zeldas. That list is still going to be good to great games with the most dubious inclusion being like...Skyward Sword, so it's in good company. BOTW just isn't really my type of Zelda game.

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redrocket
04/30/20 3:08:49 PM
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The handhelds are mainline. They are canon to the storyline and are in the same style as the console games.

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foolm0r0n
04/30/20 5:27:30 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Which Zelda games? Skyward Sword?

Seems weird for this to be an argument people make while also putting OoT at the top of their lists.
SS for sure but all the other one too, especially the 2D ones after LTTP. OoT might have had the weakest ones but it's still incomparable to BOTW's non-dungeons.

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jcgamer107
04/30/20 5:42:37 PM
#41:


TomNook posted...
Top 10. Not a knock against it. But it's hard to put it over Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and the 3 iconic handheld ones.
Basically this. I have Wind Waker and Ocarina 1/2. BotW would probably be 6-10 range.

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HanOfTheNekos
04/30/20 7:25:10 PM
#42:


foolm0r0n posted...
SS for sure but all the other one too, especially the 2D ones after LTTP. OoT might have had the weakest ones but it's still incomparable to BOTW's non-dungeons.

Oh, I think the disconnect here was the word 'complexity'.

Dungeon design and exploration is definitely something that BotW didn't have, but the divine beasts definitely had elements of complexity beyond many of the dungeons in previous games.

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SuperNiceDog
04/30/20 8:58:28 PM
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never played

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KokoroAkechi
04/30/20 9:05:49 PM
#44:


I would actually rank the hand helds I've played (aka not albw) probably around where ww/botw is. But I dont know the games as well as the console games.
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foolm0r0n
04/30/20 10:25:26 PM
#45:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
but the divine beasts definitely had elements of complexity beyond many of the dungeons in previous games.
I only played 1 beast but this is a laughable for that one. Not that the other Zelda dungeons were super complex or anything, but the elephant beast was straight up 5 individual shrines glued together in 1 big room.

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HanOfTheNekos
05/01/20 1:49:57 AM
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That's fair. Shoot eye switch with bow is pretty hard to top in terms of complexity.

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foolm0r0n
05/02/20 10:27:16 AM
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An eye switch does imply there's more than 1 room that you have to think about

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