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PIITB415
03/13/20 11:14:04 AM
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How do those of you without insurance feel? I got an email from Kaiser that any and all treatments regarding to the coronavirus won't cost patients anything.

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Starmieketone
03/13/20 11:14:45 AM
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It must "suck" to live in a nation without universal healthcare.

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PIITB415
03/13/20 11:37:53 AM
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Starmieketone posted...
It must "suck" to live in a nation without universal healthcare.

No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.

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CADE FOSTER
03/13/20 11:39:07 AM
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Starmieketone posted...
It must "suck" to live in a nation without universal healthcare.
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CyricZ
03/13/20 11:39:30 AM
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Life is a commodity and must be earned, apparently.

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DarkFists
03/13/20 11:40:19 AM
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It does suck, but thems the breaks I guess

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Resaix
03/13/20 11:40:34 AM
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PIITB415 posted...
No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.
So in this scenario who would work the "lower tier" jobs? Since those people are necessary for the higher tier jobs to function, why shouldn't their basic needs be met?
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
03/13/20 11:41:19 AM
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PIITB415 posted...
No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.

yeah I'm sure your life would be great without people working lower tier jobs. Do you even think before you post things?

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Starmieketone
03/13/20 11:44:28 AM
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PIITB415 posted...
No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits

Unfortunately, by citing a "tier" system to the workforce you confirm that employment is stratified. There will always be people in poorer paying occupations. In your system, if they become sick, they will die in debt (which may or may not be inherited by their nearest and dearest).

In a reasonable system, in more rational parts of the world, everyone is entitled to basic healthcare, no matter how much they earn.

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BeyondWalls
03/13/20 11:48:07 AM
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Im currently without insurance because Im self employed and they say I make too much for ACA. Last year I was paying Bluecross Blueshield about $370 a month for insurance. This year I was signing up and they kept me under some pending bullshit and then denied me after the enrollment period ended. Fucking scumbags. This month I just payed $800 for one physical and a quick ultrasound on my abdomen. Im still having pain and Im wondering if I should go broke with endless testing or just tolerate the pain and hope I dont die. America is fucking great.

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PsychicHippo
03/13/20 11:48:25 AM
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I'm sure it does suck, but deductibles (mine is $3,000) and copays ($40-50) will still drain you pretty quick. After cancer treatment and five related surgeries a few years back my life savings is pretty much gone, and I got off easy, relatively speaking.

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SK8T3R215
03/13/20 11:54:12 AM
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I don't have health insurance right now since I am looking for a new job and don't want to pay $722 a month for COBRA coverage.

I would rather roll the dice since I'm young and healthy and save that money until I get a new job.

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Romulox28
03/13/20 11:58:48 AM
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PIITB415 posted...
No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.
and people doing temp work, contract work, unemployed people who dont want to spend their life's savings on COBRA, etc

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Choco
03/13/20 11:59:41 AM
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yes it sucks to live in america everyone knows that by now

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SuperExcitebike
03/13/20 12:01:48 PM
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BCBS has really good health and dental packages just over $100 a month. There's no reason to not have health insurance

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E32005
03/13/20 12:02:44 PM
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PIITB415 posted...


No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.

stop trolling
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Romulox28
03/13/20 12:07:44 PM
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SuperExcitebike posted...
BCBS has really good health and dental packages just over $100 a month. There's no reason to not have health insurance
if i wanted to purchase insurance for my family with BCBS it would cost $800+ for the premium alone, and then you'd be hit with a high deductible that starts out at over $8k.

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BeyondWalls
03/13/20 12:57:57 PM
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SuperExcitebike posted...
BCBS has really good health and dental packages just over $100 a month. There's no reason to not have health insurance
This is such a flat out lie that it should be moddable.

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AsucaHayashi
03/13/20 1:00:02 PM
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i have health insurance through work.

if i didn't i would still be covered for most(if not all... i really haven't checked) my medical needs.

yay for living in a civilized country xd

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/13/20 1:05:51 PM
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I don't like it but I can afford to pay $600/mo for it

I need it cause it'll bankrupt me if I get anything remotely serious, but I'll be broke if I get it

Oh well

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MarqueeSeries
03/13/20 1:06:28 PM
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Choco posted...
yes it sucks to live in america everyone knows that by now

And it's only getting worse for the poor
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Old NoiseTank
03/13/20 1:11:32 PM
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smh

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AsucaHayashi
03/13/20 1:20:46 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
$600/mo for it

what the fuck....

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SuperExcitebike
03/13/20 1:24:49 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
This is such a flat out lie that it should be moddable.

It's not a lie. I found out my low income single uncle didn't have health insurance and he went to the local clinic and now he's paying $112/mo with very minimal copay. The clinics will work with your wage

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BeyondWalls
03/13/20 2:49:14 PM
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SuperExcitebike posted...
It's not a lie. I found out my low income single uncle didn't have health insurance and he went to the local clinic and now he's paying $112/mo with very minimal copay. The clinics will work with your wage
Thats a very specific thing that only applies to a very small set of people like your Uncle. Several people in this thread have told you what the reality is.

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/13/20 2:53:53 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
what the fuck....

It was whatever the silver plan was for Obama Care

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PIITB415
03/13/20 6:29:00 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Thats a very specific thing that only applies to a very small set of people like your Uncle. Several people in this thread have told you what the reality is.

Don't discount his information. Most people do not research enough or take the free benefits out there.

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inloveanddeath0
03/13/20 6:29:34 PM
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Dark_SilverX
03/13/20 6:58:34 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.
This. All of those lower tier jobs need to go away since they don't offer anything to the employees.

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_Rinku_
03/13/20 6:59:47 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.
Wow. What a heartless fucking thing to say. Pray you never lose your job.
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PIITB415
03/13/20 7:12:23 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Wow. What a heartless fucking thing to say. Pray you never lose your job.

I won't. And it's not heartless. People do need to strive higher. That's the whole point.

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Smackems
03/13/20 7:15:50 PM
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Starmieketone posted...
It must "suck" to live in a nation without universal healthcare.
It does

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_Rinku_
03/13/20 7:23:28 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
I won't. And it's not heartless. People do need to strive higher. That's the whole point.
You could. You have no heart if you think people deserve to go without healthcare. You want people to die for the crime of being poor.
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mech dragon
03/13/20 7:25:05 PM
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Starmieketone posted...
It must "suck" to live in a nation without universal healthcare.
Yeah, this. Some nations (ie USA) are at higher risk than others because not everyone is covered. If ppl in your community get infected, that puts you at risk too.

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mech dragon
03/13/20 7:27:45 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
No, that only affects the people who work lower tier jobs. People need to strive to be better and get jobs that pay more and offer benefits.
Healthcare is a right, not a benefit nor a privilege. This is hard to explain so I understand why its hard to understand.

Edit: but many nations already understand and put this into practice so its not that hard.

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PIITB415
03/13/20 8:00:34 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
You could. You have no heart if you think people deserve to go without healthcare. You want people to die for the crime of being poor.

You're really reaching there aren't you? I never said they don't deserve healthcare but we are in a nation that does not provide universal health care. Therefore they need to strive to get better jobs with better benefits.

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Omnislasher
03/13/20 8:01:41 PM
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i really want this topic modded
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Spiritlittle
03/13/20 8:06:22 PM
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Choco posted...
yes it sucks to live in america everyone knows that by now


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Spiritlittle
03/13/20 8:07:00 PM
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That's why we gotta vote silly republicans out this November.

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CommonJoe
03/13/20 8:08:06 PM
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Im homeless and I finally got in with our local medical services. I'm pretty excited.

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ChuckSDeuces
03/13/20 8:08:15 PM
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The one time I had to get medical care without health insurance, almost everything was reduced and the stuff I couldn't pay got waived as a "charitable donation"

Of course, I went to a religious affiliated church so maybe that had something to do with it.

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mustachedmystic
03/13/20 8:20:16 PM
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Spiritlittle posted...
That's why we gotta vote silly republicans out this November.

Paul Lynde is silly, Republicans are malevolent.

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_Rinku_
03/13/20 8:22:50 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
You're really reaching there aren't you? I never said they don't deserve healthcare but we are in a nation that does not provide universal health care. Therefore they need to strive to get better jobs with better benefits.
You're not fooling anyone. You need to be a better person.
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BeyondWalls
03/13/20 9:23:50 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Wow. What a heartless fucking thing to say. Pray you never lose your job.
Its not heartless. Its just childish. Clearly written by someone young whos never been in the system and doesnt understand it.

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PIITB415
03/13/20 10:58:22 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Its not heartless. Its just childish. Clearly written by someone young whos never been in the system and doesnt understand it.

Yeah, I'm 30 years old and live in one of the wealthiest cities in the world. What is in "the system"? Should people be punished for being successful? Let me guess, you're probably all for taxing businesses and high net worth individuals through the teeth?

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_Rinku_
03/13/20 11:08:52 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
Yeah, I'm 30 years old and live in one of the wealthiest cities in the world. What is in "the system"? Should people be punished for being successful? Let me guess, you're probably all for taxing businesses and high net worth individuals through the teeth?
Yikes. Childish indeed. Grow a heart.
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