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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 3:23:57 PM #102: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
because of the definition of the word? This is a very very basic concepts Reconstructing things for medical benefit is the opposite of mutilating things for no benefit Parents opting not to reconstruct because there was no medical gain in a random case is fair enough but it's not comparable Likewise there are rare cases/conditions were circumcision is medically beneficial and in those cases its acceptable --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:24:35 PM #103: |
ROBANN_88 posted...
again, as someine who had cleft palate surgery, this is blatantly wrong and i doubt you know anything on the subject at all I literally linked the article. https://www.todaysparent.com/family/parenting/i-agonized-over-whether-my-infant-son-should-get-cosmetic-surgery/ People have them that do have complications and require surgery. In the article, that was NOT the case. But maybe you kinda knew that but wanted to ignore it? I hope not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 01/21/20 3:25:18 PM #104: |
Tupacrulez posted...
I still have not met the woman who has said she prefers uncut dicks. So what? --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 01/21/20 3:25:57 PM #105: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
I literally linked the article.article literally acknowledges cleft palate to be a birth defect. no matter how you try to spin it, foreskin is not a birth defect/abnormality lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:27:20 PM #106: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
because of the definition of the word? Your definition is bad, but yes by your botched definition they would have to be the same thing. Mutilation requires difigurement or removal of functioning part of a body. Circumcision does neither unless you ignorantly think people find circumcized dicks ugly or something. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 3:28:43 PM #107: |
Tupacrulez posted...
Again, babies don't consent to being born. Again, This is such a bullshit argument Yes parents do things without their child's consent but that's a responsibility not a privilege. Parents choose what their infant eats but cant feed it rusty nails and cat blood Parents choose what shoes the infants wear but that doesn't mean they get to crush infants legs with a hammer to make toilet roll cardboard fit Parents do not have the right to do whatever the fuck they want to their kids. Their ability to ignore the child's consent Is for the child's benefit, not the parents Circumcision is a cosmetic procedure with no medical benefit that the kid can do as an adult if he wants to There is no justification for it and you liking being circumcised doesn't change that "Well it didn't consent to being born means we can mutilate boys genitals" is the definition of a non sequitur --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBANN_88 01/21/20 3:29:17 PM #108: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
I literally linked the article. the way you phrased "The reason people have it removed is cosmetic reasons. " made it sound like you meant "in all cases" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 01/21/20 3:29:20 PM #109: |
gonna go down to the mall and get circumcised this weekend
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Gheb 01/21/20 3:30:32 PM #110: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Yet they are also at times 100% cosmetic. I'm not wholesale giving up my right to make the best decision for my children. In the case of a cosmetic cleft pallet, I would likely make the decision that my child would probably benefit from have the surgery performed. As earlier surgery can make a difference and waiting just to get my kid's consent to do something they would likely want to have done wouldn't make sense. The only benefit of infant circumcision, is that the patient won't remember the pain (not that it is painless). There is no medical or cosmetic benefit to having it done as a baby compared to a teenager or an adult. If my child hits 14 years old and decides he wants the procedure done he doesn't lose out on anything. So there is no reason to have it done as an infant. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:32:38 PM #111: |
ROBANN_88 posted...
the way you phrased "The reason people have it removed is cosmetic reasons. " made it sound like you meant "in all cases" This is what you quoted of me: There are cleft palates that have 0 medical issues. In the case where there is 0 medical issues, yes that is the reason. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 3:33:33 PM #112: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Mutilation requires difigurement or removal of functioning part of a body Slicing off a part of the genitals to permanently change how they look irreversibly is disfigurement. Going "it still works" is like claiming cutting off someone's fingertips isnt disfigurement because "it still works " all of this just to say you must do it to infants, no explanation on why you cant just wait to adulthood --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:34:42 PM #113: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Going "it still works" is like claiming cutting off someone's fingertips isnt disfigurement because "it still works " It won't still work if you cut off the fingertip... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 3:37:34 PM #114: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Hand still works You're arguing disfigurement isnt mutilation for some reason All just so.you can defend cutting up kids, it's weird let the kid decide at 18. not much to ask. what are you so afraid of? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:38:37 PM #115: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Hand still works The hand was not cutoff.... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 01/21/20 3:41:33 PM #116: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Mutilation requires difigurement or removal of functioning part of a body. Circumcision does neither unless you ignorantly think people find circumcized dicks ugly or something. The foreskin is a functioning part of the body. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NPGOperator 01/21/20 3:41:36 PM #117: |
people who want their kids dicks cut, what would you say to your partner if they didnt want to do it?
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ShadowElite86 01/21/20 3:42:54 PM #118: |
Circumcisions are super necessary to get laid and otherwise unnecessary if you're fine with being forever a virgin.
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Stewman_Magoo 01/21/20 3:43:42 PM #119: |
NPGOperator posted...
people who want their kids dicks cut, what would you say to your partner if they didnt want to do it? I'd say they're dick-cist --- PSN Stewman_Magoo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:45:16 PM #120: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
The foreskin is a functioning part of the body. What fuction exactly does it do? According to planned patenthood, not really anything and infact requires extra maintenance. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/im-not-circumcised- and-i-wanted-to-know-what-the-difference-was-between-being- circumcised-and-not-being-circumcised-which-is-better Oh but lets totally consider it like cutting off your fingertips? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 3:46:01 PM #121: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
The dick was not cut off Still disfigured You've also once again ignored nearly every point I have made so it again and I will no longer respond to you because it is pointless --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 01/21/20 3:47:23 PM #122: |
also ignoring the fact that foreskin is not a birth defect unlike cleft palate making it disingenuous to compare the two
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:49:39 PM #123: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
The dick was not cut off Anyone who ever argued with Unfair has ignored every point he made according to him. Lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NPGOperator 01/21/20 3:50:27 PM #124: |
ShadowElite86 posted...
Circumcisions are super necessary to get laid and otherwise unnecessary if you're fine with being forever a virgin. most of the developed world dont circumcise much and arent as sexually repressed as america sooooooo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 01/21/20 3:50:43 PM #125: |
Tupacrulez posted...
I still have not met the woman who has said she prefers uncut dicks. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 01/21/20 3:53:31 PM #126: |
Hair-cuts: Disfigured hair, not necessary.
Clipping toe nails.. Clipping finger nails.. Dental work... Cosmetic surgery... Any surgery... Vaccines... When will the abuse stop? --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 3:53:35 PM #127: |
VandorLee posted...
Tupacrulez posted... And you might consider that a reason to get circumcised as an adult but why do it to infants? Thats the issue Leave children alone it's not hard --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NPGOperator 01/21/20 3:54:50 PM #128: |
i also find it p funny that americans have been brainwashed into believing that circumcision is so necessary that upwards of 70% of boys have the dicks cut when they have to pay for it out of their own pocket. almost all other developed countries with health care have it at less than 20% circumcision
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 3:55:34 PM #129: |
VandorLee posted...
Hair-cuts: Disfigured hair, not necessary. "I clip fingernails for the medical benefit of my kid, therefore it's okay for me to disfigure his genitals " is a Non sequitur Hell comparing literal vaccines to cosmetic surgery is insane --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LameFAQs 01/21/20 3:56:05 PM #130: |
Blighboy posted...
A good friend of mine had his wife of three years leave him after finding out he was uncut I need answers to this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 01/21/20 3:56:22 PM #131: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
And you might consider that a reason to get circumcised as an adult No one wants to go get circumsized later in life. And if they want to more reason to have already done it. Ive never ever even heard of a dude mad that he was circumsized. This is the dumbest arguement and its just trolling and works 100% of the time. Shut the fuck up. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 3:56:27 PM #132: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
And you might consider that a reason to get circumcised as an adult What is the negative for doing it to an infant? Lets pretend you are right and it is mutilation as you pretend it to be. Ok. But it is not disfigurement. There is no loss of functionality either. So what is the issue? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 01/21/20 3:57:38 PM #133: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
"I clip fingernails for the medical benefit of my kid, therefore it's okay for me to disfigure his genitals " is a Non sequitur Disfiguring childrens fingernails is ok!? Absurd! --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowElite86 01/21/20 3:58:34 PM #134: |
NPGOperator posted...
most of the developed world dont circumcise much and arent as sexually repressed as america soooooooI don't believe you. --- INGREDIENTS: Cancer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 01/21/20 3:58:55 PM #135: |
Calling everyones circumsized penis disfigured is offensive as hell. Shut the fuck up.
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 4:00:22 PM #136: |
VandorLee posted...
No one wants to go get circumsized later in life. Sounds like one hell of a reason not to do it to infants on top of all the others then --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 4:01:55 PM #137: |
VandorLee posted...
Calling everyones circumsized penis disfigured is offensive as hell. Shut the fuck up. it literally is tho. You cant demand we reject reality just because you dont like it. This isnt 1984. Hell the very fact you want us to deny reality should be a res flag for the entire stance. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coastal_elite 01/21/20 4:02:15 PM #138: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Slicing off a part of the genitals to permanently change how they look irreversibly is disfigurement. only it doesn't work, you lose an entire bodily feature - fingerprint ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenXylophone 01/21/20 4:02:35 PM #139: |
Alot of people don't even realize they circumcized unless they compare their dick to other guy's dicks alot.
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VandorLee 01/21/20 4:02:47 PM #140: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Sounds like one hell of a reason not to do it to infants on top of all the others then You said theyd want to later and getting later is a massive pain in the ass. Its simple and quick as an infant. Ive yet to hear a dude not happy he was circumsized or a girl prefer uncut. Whats your dog in this fight? Your obsession with childrens circumcission is disturbing as hell. Hey, but you are the only user that does this crap. Simple solutions... --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 4:05:15 PM #141: |
Lmao
I totally didn't notice UR legit called is disfigurement. Like holy shit ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NPGOperator 01/21/20 4:05:39 PM #142: |
VandorLee posted...
No one wants to go get circumsized later in life but theres some many benefits to circumcision that surely any uncut adult would run out... ShadowElite86 posted... I don't believe you. every country in western europe has a circumcision rate of less than 20%, where as america is 76%+. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/21/20 4:07:52 PM #143: |
VandorLee posted...
You said theyd want to later and getting later is a massive pain in the ass. Its simple and quick as an infant. Doesn't matter. it's an irreversible cosmetic procedure . you cant do it to an unconsenting infant on the hope that it works out later That's madness ve yet to hear a dude not happy he was circumsized or a girl prefer uncut. You ignoring them doesn't mean they dont exist Whats your dog in this fight. Your obsession with childrens circumcission is disturbing as hell. "it's wrong to mutilate children's genitals " "WGATS YOUR DOG INTHIS!!!@?" erm ok that would be obvious for most people And the argument is dumb "why are you so obsessed with me cutting up infants dicks?" well the fact you and no one else should be doing it? Because its pointless and wrong and harmful for incredibly blatant reasons? Turn that question on yourself, why are you obsessed with circumcision of infants? Let them decide for themselves --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 01/21/20 4:08:39 PM #144: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
cosmetic procedure Got em. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NPGOperator 01/21/20 4:09:43 PM #145: |
the only actual benefit to it seems to be because american girls arent used to seeing uncut dicks?
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nesplayer 01/21/20 4:09:45 PM #146: |
Blighboy posted...
A good friend of mine had his wife of three years leave him after finding out he was uncut how did the wife not know for three years --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/21/20 4:11:19 PM #147: |
nesplayer posted...
how did the wife not know for three years Because it is like any other dick. Likely one day he told her. Otherwise she literally had no idea because it is all the same. Which proves the disfigurement argument absolute bullshit trolling. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 01/21/20 4:11:28 PM #148: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Doesn't matter. it's an irreversible cosmetic procedure . you cant do it to an unconsenting infant on the hope that it works out later Life/birth is an irreversable decission towards non concenting, unborn babies. Cosmetic procedures arnt mutilation. The troll is weakening. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AbysmalTrinity 01/21/20 4:12:01 PM #149: |
How many Cavemen were circumcised?
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VandorLee 01/21/20 4:12:49 PM #150: |
AbysmalTrinity posted...
How many Cavemen were circumcised? All of them. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AbysmalTrinity 01/21/20 4:12:50 PM #151: |
VandorLee posted...
Life/birth is an irreversable decission towards non concenting, unborn babies.You need to go back to fourth grade --- Simply Abysmal AbysmalTrinity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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