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KFHEWUI
01/12/20 3:41:09 PM
#51:


I liked Homecoming and found it a lot more enjoyable than SH 4.

SH 4 had interesting ideas but they were so poorly executed that they felt half baked.

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spikethedevil
01/12/20 3:43:14 PM
#52:


Lol wow obvious trolling is obvious. I forgot your gimmick is trolling via being a contrarian.

Homecomings combat was awful, you have a block button but no way to tell what attacks the enemy is going to use making it a guessing game/useless.

The story is in many ways a rip off of SH2.

Would love to know why they thought fighting humans was a good idea.

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ultimate reaver
01/12/20 3:43:56 PM
#53:


Lairen posted...
Homecoming at least is a silent hill game.

how is silent hill homecoming any more of a silent hill game than 4? Homecoming has a massive decrease in puzzles, mostly linear levels and horrible combat that wants to be RE4 with melee weapons (in which they give you a knife that stunlocks every enemy in the game because double helix is a horrible dev)

as weird as sh4 is, it feels infinitely more like a silent hill game. Homecoming is a western developer desparately attempting to soullessly drag the series into "modern" conventions while on a directive to cram as much shit from the terrible movie into the game as possible

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SauI_Goodman
01/12/20 3:44:33 PM
#54:


Game sucked
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spikethedevil
01/12/20 3:45:06 PM
#55:


Oh god I forgot about the sexy nurses that made no fucking sense in Homecoming and none of the other enemies have any symbolism at all either and are generic as hell.

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ultimate reaver
01/12/20 3:46:10 PM
#56:


spikethedevil posted...
Oh god I forgot about the sexy nurses that made no fucking sense in Homecoming and none of the other enemies have any symbolism at all either and are generic as hell.

dont forget buff hunky movie design pyramid head walking around and doing jack shit for 90% of the game

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UnfairRepresent
01/12/20 3:47:28 PM
#57:


spikethedevil posted...

Homecomings combat was awful, you have a block button but no way to tell what attacks the enemy is going to use making it a guessing game/useless.

So Homecomings gameplay is worse than
Backtracking through the entire game
Escort quests (that determine the ending)
Long boring sequence trudging back through the room every time you want to save
Tiny inventory were a piece of paper torn in half takes up as many slots as a machine gun and an iron pipe
Incredibly boring enemy design
Invincible enemies that chase you forever in a slow paced atmospheric game about exploring

Because it had an awkward blocking system?

uhuh...

spikethedevil posted...
The story is in many ways a rip off of SH2.


Yeah not disputing that SH4 had a good story. No argument there

but the gameplay was embarrassing

Would love to know why they thought fighting humans was a good idea.


Probably because you fight humans in almost every SH game?

and best part is those humans aren't invincible, you dont backtrack to fight them, saving is easy and you're not escorting anyone when you do it.

How about that?
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spikethedevil
01/12/20 3:47:29 PM
#58:


Pyramid head is exclusive to James's shit and makes no sense in Homecoming either but hey if the rip off in Origins didn't work why not just use the actual thing sense be dammed.

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spikethedevil
01/12/20 3:48:58 PM
#59:


UnfairRepresent posted...
So Homecomings gameplay is worse than
Backtracking through the entire game
Escort quests (that determine the ending)
Long boring sequence trudging back through the room every time you want to save
Tiny inventory were a piece of paper torn in half takes up as many slots as a machine gun and an iron pipe
Incredibly boring enemy design
Invincible enemies that chase you forever in a slow paced atmospheric game about exploring

Because it had an awkward blocking system?

uhuh...

Yeah not disputing that SH4 had a good story. No argument there

but the gameplay was embarrassing

Probably because you fight humans in almost every SH game?

and best part is those humans aren't invincible, you dont backtrack to fight them, saving is easy and you're not escorting anyone when you do it.

How about that?

Um you don't fight humans in any other SH game apart from one boss in 2 lol and the escort thing doesn't determine the ending unless you're an idiot that doesn't heal Eileen at the end. but as you are ignoring what people are saying you are just trolling now so you are now ignored. Oh yea and SH2 has escort sections that can determine the ending btw.

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UnfairRepresent
01/12/20 3:51:28 PM
#60:


spikethedevil posted...
Um you don't fight humans in any other SH game lol

Erm yes you do.

Have you ever played them before?

spikethedevil posted...
and the escort thing doesn't determine the ending unless you're an idiot that doesn't heal Eileen at the end.


Escort quests suck. Going "well it's an easy one " doesn't stop it from sucking

but as you are ignoring what people are saying you are just trolling now so you are now ignored.


lol at this hypocrisy. you're ignoring me because I ignore what you are saying?

Even though I have responded in detail to everything you have said, when you haven't to me
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Irony
01/12/20 3:52:27 PM
#61:


Aside from Book of Memories, Homecoming is the least Silent Hill game

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boxington
01/12/20 3:53:11 PM
#62:


spikethedevil posted...
Um you don't fight humans in any other SH game apart from one boss in 2 lol
they look like monsters to you?!

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ultimate reaver
01/12/20 3:53:16 PM
#63:


the only reason you fight humans in homecoming is because those guys were in the movie. its a shitty movie tie in game that was for some reason released years after the movie

also eddie is the only other human you fight. walter is an invincible dream monster with a chainsaw, you might as well be calling freddy kruger human

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UnfairRepresent
01/12/20 3:53:19 PM
#64:


Irony posted...
Aside from Book of Memories, Homecoming is the least Silent Hill game

If book of Memories counts then the arcade counts too
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spikethedevil
01/12/20 3:53:24 PM
#65:


Ok what other SH games do you go into combat against other humans?

Ah ignoring the escort bits in SH2 I see. You say you have responded in detail yet you clearly cheery pick bits from my posts while ignoring other bits? fucking lol.

the escort thing doesn't determine the ending unless you're an idiot that doesn't heal Eileen at the end.

Oh yea and SH2 has escort sections that can determine the ending btw.

Why does SH2 get a free pass?

And as you will no doubt ignore 90% of this post I will now ignore 100% of yours lol. It's been fun but I won't take your bait anymore.

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UnfairRepresent
01/12/20 3:58:19 PM
#66:


spikethedevil posted...
Ok what other SH games do you go into combat against other humans?


In pretty much all of them. Eddie, Police Chick, Mary/maria. Even Pyramid head and the butcher are just dudes.

Most of the enemies in downpour

Hell even in 4 you fight humans, just "ghost humans who you cant kill"

Ah ignoring the escort bits in SH2 I see. You say you have responded in detail yet you clearly cheery pick bits from my posts while ignoring other bits? fucking lol.


You edited that in after I replied....

he escort thing doesn't determine the ending unless you're an idiot that doesn't heal Eileen at the end.


What's your point?

it still sucks and is appallingly awful gameplay design

Oh yea and SH2 has escort sections that can determine the ending btw.

Why does SH2 get a free pass?


it doesn't. It has 1 very short escort section which also kinda sucks .

What's your point? That doesn't make SH4 less shit.
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Yazarogi
01/12/20 4:11:13 PM
#67:


Is that the one with the crazy as fuck main villain who was actually scary and followed you around, enemies that couldn't die (but could be permanently pinned to the ground with swords) and being stuck in your apartment?

I know it's not exactly a "silent hill" game but it was actually pretty cool and fuck if I don't love Walter. Great villain and some good music "Room of Angel" "Traversing the Portals of Reality"

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Tyranthraxus
01/12/20 4:20:03 PM
#68:


spikethedevil posted...
06 story is 10x worse than SA/SA2.
The story and lore of Sonic the Hedgehog is so deep, man.

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Lairen
01/12/20 5:24:17 PM
#69:


ultimate reaver posted...
how is silent hill homecoming any more of a silent hill game than 4? Homecoming has a massive decrease in puzzles, mostly linear levels and horrible combat that wants to be RE4 with melee weapons (in which they give you a knife that stunlocks every enemy in the game because double helix is a horrible dev)

as weird as sh4 is, it feels infinitely more like a silent hill game. Homecoming is a western developer desparately attempting to soullessly drag the series into "modern" conventions while on a directive to cram as much shit from the terrible movie into the game as possible

It literally does nothing like Silent Hill. Like nothing.

Homecoming has plenty of silent hill things and the first world change is awesome. It does just put silent hill enemies in cause theyre from other games or movies. You run around a town like silent hill.

Silent hill 4 should literally only be called The Room but then no one would play or like it.

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Machete
01/12/20 5:28:08 PM
#70:


I had to ragequit because of that annoying prick kept following me and shooting me and I couldn't do anything about it so I lost my patience.
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Lairen
01/12/20 5:31:28 PM
#71:


Antagonist spoilers:

Dur im crazy and think an actual apartment is my mom and will slaughtet people, including myself, to make an apartment living so i can live in my moms uterus again. And theres like 4 fucking versions of me. Black coat ghost, child ghost, dead body and apartment monster.

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Yazarogi
01/12/20 5:43:40 PM
#72:


I'm not sure TC is really into Silent Hill. =/

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Lairen
01/12/20 5:45:06 PM
#73:


Yazarogi posted...
I'm not sure TC is really into Silent Hill. =/

Neither is Silent Hill 4.

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ultimate reaver
01/12/20 9:01:58 PM
#74:


Yazarogi posted...
I'm not sure TC is really into Silent Hill. =/

its hard to tell these days because somewhere over the last few years people started defending homecoming after everyone recognizing how bad it was for so long

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UnfairRepresent
01/12/20 9:04:02 PM
#75:


ultimate reaver posted...


its hard to tell these days because somewhere over the last few years people started defending homecoming after everyone recognizing how bad it was for so long

I don't think any perspective really changed

From day 1 people defended Homecoming as a decent game but attacked it for being a bad entry into the Silent Hill franchise

If it was called Spooky Adventure In Helltown no one would hate it. it's really not that bad on any level.
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spikethedevil
01/13/20 5:09:51 AM
#76:


The apartment monster wasnt Walter it was the previous owner trying to help you.

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