Board 8 > Now playing what GameFAQs has deemed the best game ever [Undertale]

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I thought Undyne was a way more obscure spare than Toriel

Who tries to run away from boss fights in RPGs?

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Play the genocide run if you want to see why the fanbase loves that game so much.

It kind of proves your criticisms wrong, too.

I watched a LP of it, and yes it definitely seems more challenging mechanically. But it's a shame that you have to play through the "wrong" way in order to get the gameplay depth that the peaceful routes are lacking. I think it's a natural flaw in the game, but I don't even fault it that much. It's still a great title and I'm interested to see what Toby Fox does in the future with a real budget and team.

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but it's not the "wrong" way. it's another way.

colliding posted...

but it's not the "wrong" way. it's another way.

You know what I meant

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I would say the actual text of the game in a meta, "talking directly to the player" way, not just in-universe maintains a pretty strong stance that Genocide is the "wrong" way to play.

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

My only complaint was that it's disappointingly short/easy

It took me 18 hours total and has some of the most challenging things that I've done in any game.

It's really up to you. The game gives you absolutely everything that you attempt to take from it. This is why people say Genocide is a must, but also that it's not for everyone.

Oh yeah and watching gets you maybe 20% of the Genocide experience at most. It's a good 20% but still.

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

If I went into the game completely blind, I think Toriel would have been my only kill

That's basically what I did, but I also killed some other random bosses like the dog guard, and I did end up killing Papyrus too. I did kill a bunch of regular enemies too before I really figured out the sparing system.

People who say it's so totally obvious that you never need to kill anyone are way too blinded by their spoilers. If you really went into the game without knowing the tagline and the hype about pacifist/genocide, then it's not obvious at all. And it really does add a lot to the game when you don't know what you're missing by killing. I missed all the Papyrus date stuff for example. It was pretty mind blowing going through the second time.

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