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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:09:59 PM
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It definitely has problems but I still had a good time

Random thoughts (mostly nitpicks):
-Palpatine was definitely a random ass pull. Plus the fact that they never went into his son or anything is really unsatisfying
-Why didnt Rey just force heal Kylo after he died at the end? >__>
-Poe's lady friend is hot. I'd fuck the shit out of her
-I LOVE the Rogue Squadron series and it was great to see Wedge in the movie but the motherfucker literally has less than a second of screentime and 1 line. You could realistically blink and miss it.
-I like how Chewie finally got a medal lol
-Leia's death was really dumb. Worse than Luke's death. How the fuck did that kill her.
-That black girl's tooth gap was really really distracting >_> They could get someone with better teeth. I couldnt stop staring at it the whole time lol
-Rose is barely in it. Good.
-The whole giving items through the force was so dumb and made zero sense. Why not just give Kylo a ticking grenade or something lol
-Rey can force pull a starship but cant force push some waves or the sinking sand? smh

I know I critiqued it a lot but I did enjoy it >_> It definitely couldve been worse. I just wish Episode 8 wasnt such a train wreck
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CyricZ
12/22/19 5:13:07 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Why didnt Rey just force heal Kylo after he died at the end? >__>
I mean, then they're going back and forth forever and it's even goofier.

NeonOctopus posted...
Rey can force pull a starship but cant force push some waves or the sinking sand? smh
Starship is one cohesive thing, dude. Sand is a bajillion particles.

NeonOctopus posted...
I LOVE the Rogue Squadron series and it was great to see Wedge in the movie but the motherfucker literally has less than a second of screentime and 1 line. You could realistically blink and miss it.
Can almost guarantee he had more stuff that was left on the cutting room floor. :-/

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:13:54 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I mean, then they're going back and forth forever and it's even goofier.

That's a pretty funny image in my head
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XxKrazyChaosxX
12/22/19 5:18:05 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Why didnt Rey just force heal Kylo after he died at the end?

He faded away, he was a quick one.

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:20:27 PM
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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:23:47 PM
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Where the heck was the second ship Chewie was on? Why bother allowing C-3PO to understand Sith if he can't even do anything with it?

That was kinda dumb but I could forgive it >_>
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XxKrazyChaosxX
12/22/19 5:25:42 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Where the heck was the second ship Chewie was on?

They show it. It was right next to the one Chewie boards.

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:30:00 PM
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I like how they show a lesbian couple kissing for a second then quickly cut away lol.

They probably had more screentime than Wedge >_>
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Polycosm
12/22/19 5:31:18 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
-Palpatine was definitely a random ass pull. Plus the fact that they never went into his son or anything is really unsatisfying

I agree that Palpatine was a "break glass in case of emergency" play. TLJ didn't leave many options on the table after it killed Snoke and turned Hux into a joke. ROS had to go with Palpatine or Plagueis, and it didn't have time to explain Plagueis.

-Why didnt Rey just force heal Kylo after he died at the end? >__>

Force healing transfers the life of the healer. Rey was able to heal minor and major wounds without exhausting her entire life force, but at the end of the movie Rey is fully dead. Ben is barely holding onto life as it is (having been drained by Palpatine and thrown down a pit), so he has to trade a life for a life to bring Rey back.


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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:42:25 PM
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I forgot to add that damn there was a lot of fan service. Like too much.

Also, where did Rey get Luke's books? I thought he burned them all?
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ASithLord7
12/22/19 5:43:13 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Also, where did Rey get Luke's books? I thought he burned them all?
See, I'm convinced not a single goddamn person actually watched TLJ. People got upset that Yoda said she has all that she needs and thought they burned, but it clearly shows them aboard the Falcon.

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Kami_no_Kami
12/22/19 5:43:35 PM
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I thought Saw ended at 5 or 6.
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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:44:03 PM
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ASithLord7
12/22/19 5:58:34 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Maybe Last Jedi is just shit at storytelling.

Cuz it is.
Maybe you need to get some glasses, because they were clearly shown in the center of frame by themselves. Jesus Christ.

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 5:58:36 PM
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Tupacrulez
12/22/19 6:07:28 PM
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Not bothering watching this at this point.

Just one asspull after another it sounds like.

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 6:08:27 PM
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Tupacrulez posted...
Not bothering watching this at this point.

Just one asspull after another it sounds like.

It kinda is, but at the same time, I did have fun watching it. Definitely better than 8 and maybe better than 7. I went in with low expectations and I liked it overall. It was just kinda dumb at times >_>
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ZMythos
12/22/19 6:09:54 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
-The whole giving items through the force was so dumb and made zero sense. Why not just give Kylo a ticking grenade or something lol

What if Kylo Forced his light saber into Rey's Jedi Chamber with that technique?

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Makeveli_lives
12/22/19 6:12:19 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
-Leia's death was really dumb. Worse than Luke's death. How the fuck did that kill her.
The actress literally died the day after her mom died. The common theory is the stress of losing her mom hit her hard enough to give her a heart attack.

So how is it unrealistic that feeling her son through the force dying or about to die doing the same thing unrealistic?

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 6:12:34 PM
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ZMythos posted...


What if Kylo Forced his light saber into Rey's Jedi Chamber with that technique?

Are you saying what if he trolled Rey by force channeling his youngling juice into her? That was be......something >_> That would put her out of action for 9 months
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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 6:13:07 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
So how is it unrealistic that feeling her son through the force dying or about to die doing the same thing unrealistic?

lol, it's bad writing. I'm guessing they must've ran out of footage or something if they had to resort to such a lame death
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ASithLord7
12/22/19 6:13:14 PM
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Rape jokes, very classy

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Makeveli_lives
12/22/19 6:15:59 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
lol, it's bad writing. I'm guessing they must've ran out of footage or something if they had to resort to such a lame death
She died like a year before the movie came out. Not like they could shoot more with a dead actress to change it up.

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Neoconkers
12/22/19 6:23:57 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
The actress literally died the day after her mom died. The common theory is the stress of losing her mom hit her hard enough to give her a heart attack.
other way round, her mother died after. carrie fisher did a LOAD of drugs across her life.

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ViewtifulGrave
12/22/19 6:24:23 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
See, I'm convinced not a single goddamn person actually watched TLJ. People got upset that Yoda said she has all that she needs and thought they burned, but it clearly shows them aboard the Falcon.
Just because a few people missed Rey take the books?

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ASithLord7
12/22/19 6:25:41 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Just because a few people missed Rey take the books?
Rey doesnt have everything she needs, she doesnt know whats in the books, whar a Mary Sue; Rian ruined Star Wars has been a COMMON argument here for the past two years

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Makeveli_lives
12/22/19 6:28:05 PM
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Neoconkers posted...
other way round, her mother died after. carrie fisher did a LOAD of drugs across her life.
Oh even better for my theory then. A mother died immediately after her child, both in the movie and in real life. Did Tc tell God that was bad writing when it happened then?

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Neoconkers
12/22/19 7:18:53 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Oh even better for my theory then. A mother died immediately after her child, both in the movie and in real life. Did Tc tell God that was bad writing when it happened then?
tbf though, a lot of reality would be shitty writing. that's why the genre's called fantasy

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 8:07:14 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...

Oh even better for my theory then. A mother died immediately after her child, both in the movie and in real life. Did Tc tell God that was bad writing when it happened then?

Damn bro, who pissed in your cereal this morning? lol
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Chicken_Butt
12/22/19 8:15:53 PM
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This is the last of the Skywalker Saga but I hope we get to see Rey as a master at some point down the line... she's still pretty much a rookie. She's had to do so much shit in so little time. A light side warrior with the power of the Palps is interesting. I was kind of sad she didn't use Force Lightning again in the movie.

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__aCEr__
12/22/19 8:19:43 PM
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I don't think there was much Wedge because in the past the actor has said he just isn't interested in the character. Saying one line and not having a helmet obscuring his face was probably the only way he'd do it.

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NeonOctopus
12/22/19 8:21:45 PM
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It just seems like a lot of effort to just have 1 line >_> If you're gonna dress up and go on set, might as well do more than 1 second of filming
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NeonOctopus
12/23/19 6:24:39 AM
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Murphiroth
12/23/19 8:53:44 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
lol, it's bad writing. I'm guessing they must've ran out of footage or something if they had to resort to such a lame death

Are you dumb? They established in TLJ that projecting yourself through the Force takes a lot of strength (Kylo comments that it's not Rey establishing their bond, it would kill her, and Luke dies doing it) so of course an older, weaker Leia who Maz explicitly says has to use the last of her energy doing what she needs to do would die reaching out to her son one last time to pull him back to the light.

I swear, people bitch about things that are blatantly and obviously explained.

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Ving_Rhames
12/23/19 8:57:49 AM
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Chicken_Butt posted...
I hope we get to see Rey as a master at some point down the line

She's been a master since the end of TFA tho

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NeonOctopus
12/23/19 8:59:11 AM
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Projecting only your voice across the galaxy = dead
LITERALLY force teleporting objects across the galaxy = perfectly fine
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Unit7
12/23/19 9:02:18 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Projecting only your voice across the galaxy = dead
LITERALLY force teleporting objects across the galaxy = perfectly fine

When did this happen?

i mean in TLJ with rain, sure. But neither one of them were doing it. Its also unclear if whats happening to them uses their Force at all.

Every time Rey and Kylo Ren did this they were nearby. She was on his ship that was hovering over a city. At the end they were even closer.
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NeonOctopus
12/23/19 9:03:43 AM
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Kylo took Rey's necklace across the galaxy, then Rey teleported her lightsaber to Kylo at the end, but they were like a mile away from each other at most on that point
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NeonOctopus
12/23/19 9:05:02 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Starship is one cohesive thing, dude. Sand is a bajillion particles.

But she force pushed the sand at the end to bury Luke and Leia's sabers on Tatoonie
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OctilIery
12/23/19 9:06:01 AM
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Unit7 posted...


When did this happen?

i mean in TLJ with rain, sure. But neither one of them were doing it. Its also unclear if whats happening to them uses their Force at all.

Every time Rey and Kylo Ren did this they were nearby. She was on his ship that was hovering over a city. At the end they were even closer.

Kylo literally pulled off her necklace and used it to discover what planet she was on.
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MrMallard
12/23/19 9:06:30 AM
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I doubt she shifted every individual particle of sand with her force powers. If anything it probably worked more like an abstract shovel.

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Murphiroth
12/23/19 9:13:07 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Projecting only your voice across the galaxy = dead
LITERALLY force teleporting objects across the galaxy = perfectly fine

Again, explained in the movie. Rey and Ben have a unique bond in the Force that greatly strengthens their connection. Leia was also 53 years old and specifically said to be using the last of her energy to reach out.

Try paying attention, I know it's hard.

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Shablagoo
12/23/19 9:14:42 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
-Why didnt Rey just force heal Kylo after he died at the end? >__>

imagine if the rest of the movie was them taking turns transferring their life essence to save the other lol

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OctilIery
12/23/19 9:20:15 AM
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Murphiroth posted...


Again, explained in the movie. Rey and Ben have a unique bond in the Force that greatly strengthens their connection. Leia was also 53 years old and specifically said to be using the last of her energy to reach out.

Try paying attention, I know it's hard.

Handwaving is not an explanation. They're legitimately stupid things. Could they pass physical items in TLJ or is that another thing this movie pulled out of its ass/got completely wrong?
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Tired-Insomniac
12/23/19 9:22:25 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Leia's death was really dumb. Worse than Luke's death. How the fuck did that kill her.

Literally all of her scenes were unused footage from the last two movies since she died a year before TLJ even came out

They did what they could with what they had

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Ricemills
12/23/19 9:24:25 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Are you saying what if he trolled Rey by force channeling his youngling juice into her? That was be......something >_> That would put her out of action for 9 months

well, Palpatine seems cool with this idea

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Murphiroth
12/23/19 9:24:33 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Handwaving is not an explanation. They're legitimately stupid things. Could they pass physical items in TLJ or is that another thing this movie pulled out of its ass/got completely wrong?

It's literally building on what was established of their strong bond in TLJ. They didn't pass items through there deliberately, but some rain made it through. Then they began doing it themselves in this movie, at first on accident and finally at the end deliberately. I mean, you can think it's stupid, that's your opinion, but the buildup is there and that can't be denied.

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Chicken_Butt
12/23/19 9:28:23 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Handwaving is not an explanation. They're legitimately stupid things. Could they pass physical items in TLJ or is that another thing this movie pulled out of its ass/got completely wrong?
Could they even pass through the Force themselves? If Kylo can reach out and yank a necklace through, why not Rey in her entirety? Could Jedi/Sith use that to teleport between worlds? If that's possible, why wouldn't Snoke/Palpatine just teleport Kylo wherever he needed him to be? Imagine how much time he could have saved in TLJ if he had just jumped Kylo to Rey.

Passing things through the Force is weird. Shouldn't be allowed. I don't like it.

Ving_Rhames posted...
She's been a master since the end of TFA tho
How so?

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Blue_Inigo
12/23/19 9:31:28 AM
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Chicken_Butt posted...
Could they even pass through the Force themselves? If Kylo can reach out and yank a necklace through, why not Rey in her entirety? Could Jedi/Sith use that to teleport between worlds? If that's possible, why wouldn't Snoke/Palpatine just teleport Kylo wherever he needed him to be? Imagine how much time he could have saved in TLJ if he had just jumped Kylo to Rey.

Passing things through the Force is weird. Shouldn't be allowed. I don't like it.

How so?
Rey and Kylo had a lightsaber battle through their force connection

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