Current Events > Episode IX was fucking phenomenal, I legit don't know what the complaints are.

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That movie was tight as fuck. What the actual fuck are people complaining about?

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I loved it.

It was rushed, contrived, and mostly fan service.

Agreed. Best since the OT without question

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MagnusX posted...

mostly fan service.

I see a lot of complaints about this

Like

I'm a fan

I like being serviced

Fan service sounds great

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I didn't like it at all, precisely because it was just so predictable

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

I see a lot of complaints about this

Like

I'm a fan

I like being serviced

Fan service sounds great

The fan service was like:

"Here's a cool 3 second cinematic shot from Episode 4, except we've reframed it in a different context"

And they used some of the classic call backs from EVERY movie like "I've got a bad feeling about this".

More than anything, though, the fan service feels especially appropriate because so much of the effort from this movie was about reconnecting the threads fron the OT to the New Trilogy after Rian took a SHIT on so much of that. Sometimes I was just satisfied when J.J. spent a scene just fixing some of the garbage of Episode 8. Like, when Rian "circumvents expectations" by "undermining the entire fucking conceit of space battles by hyperdriving into a Star Destroyer". God fucking damnit.

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It was bad, but people are right. It's not unusually bad for Star Wars movies. It's the normal amount of Star Wars bad, just extra rushed.

Tired-Insomniac posted...

I see a lot of complaints about this

Like

I'm a fan

I like being serviced

Fan service sounds great

Sometimes I don't want sex, I just want to cuddle >_>

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PrideOfLion posted...

Yeah, it was pretty fun
Most of the complaints can be said about the other films, no idea why some people attack the new trilogy for the same problems the PT and OT have

you have no idea why people are mad that the third trilogy is making the same mistakes the two before it had?

I mean you usually would expect an IP to improve over time so while Im not on either side of the good/bad for it I do gotta say that what you put sounds like pretty valid criticism.

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Havent seen it but Ive read the leaks and seen thoughtful reviews and expect to very much enjoy it. I really loved The Force Awakens.

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I absolutely don't get it at all. Like I came out of The Last Jedi with mixed thoughts and knew why it wasn't going to be received well immediately. This time, I heard the reviews were mostly bad and I thought the movie was pretty damn good by Star Wars standards lol.

I also don't get reviewers at all. TFA was mostly ANH rehashed but reviewers loved it. TLJ shook things up and reviewers still loved it. Now RoS comes out and it's mostly another rehash but now they hate it lol.

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Palpatine not only coming back via force magic (completely negating everything Luke and Anakin did in the original trilogy), but somehow amassing the largest fleet in history somehow in the middle of nowhere and no one noticed? I just don't buy it.

All it took to get Kylo back to the light side was just have Leia sacrifice herself?

The entire plot was just a series of mcguffins and fetch quests.

So Palps wanted Kylo to kill Rey, but then he actually wanted her to go to him alive so she could kill him and absorb his spirit? But then she does kill him (just by grabbing two lightsabers I guess?) and she doesn't absorb his spirit. Dafuq?

I can definitely believe the rumors now that there were multiple endings and this thing was just mashed together at the end to try and avoid fanboy rage

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The pacing was very frantic. Felt like a return of the king amount of stuff to happen but without the benefit of a 3:20 run time. For 2:20 or whatever it felt stuffed

The rapidly changing fetch quest nature of the 1st half of the movie felt rushed considering TFA in its entirety was basically a singular fetch quest. Rey rage quits to the planet from TLJ and is convinced to go back in like 2 minutes. The one that really annoyed me was that kylo dying should have been given a chance to breath. But the movie is legit over like 5 minutes later and hes never even mentioned again.

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Palpatine not only coming back via force magic (completely negating everything Luke and Anakin did in the original trilogy), but somehow amassing the largest fleet in history somehow in the middle of nowhere and no one noticed? I just don't buy it.

All it took to get Kylo back to the light side was just have Leia sacrifice herself?

The entire plot was just a series of mcguffins and fetch quests.

So Palps wanted Kylo to kill Rey, but then he actually wanted her to go to him alive so she could kill him and absorb his spirit? But then she does kill him (just by grabbing two lightsabers I guess?) and she doesn't absorb his spirit. Dafuq?

I can definitely believe the rumors now that there were multiple endings and this thing was just mashed together at the end to try and avoid fanboy rage

1. Palpatine is literally stuck on life support on a planet out on the outer rim because of what Anakin and Luke did. Beyond that, if anyone is going to preserve their spirit through force sorcery it's Palpatine, who's whole shtick for his 6 previous movies was becoming all powerful and living forever. And it doesn't "negate" what Luke and Anakin did--Their actions were integral to the culmination of Episode 9, they just weren't the ones to permanently kill Palpatine.

2. Kylo had been struggling with the Dark side the entire movie. It's why he never tried to kill Rey, it's why he was so distrustful of Palpatine, and why he basically neglected running his evil empire in favor of seeking out Rey--Kylo wanted to be saved. Before Leia even communicated with him he hesitated to strike down Rey, because killing her wasn't what he wanted.

3. Most Star Wars movies are just McGuffins and fetch quests? Contrivance is basically the entire conceit of the Force.

4. Palpatine has always had contigencies. He uses people. He had four apprentices who he told was his only student while also training someone else concurrently. Maul, Dooku, Grievous, Vader. Him telling Kylo one thing and anticipating him doing something else is kind of his shtick too. While Palp's didn't say it explicitly, we can infer that:

1. He had children so that he could later use their vitality to restore himself in case of fatal injuries. This is why he tried to capture Rey when she was a child, so he could always have her on hand.
2. If Rey died her spirit was probably going to be trapped by Palpatine.
3. If Rey killed Palpatine, he probably had dark sorceries prepared to take over her body.
4. This whole storyline was obviously inspired by the Star Wars Legends, where Palpatine basically does this same thing but with different steps, so it's not like it's something that's foreign to Star Wars fans.

Rey needed to be consumed by Hatred and the Dark Side in order for Palp's dark sorceries to work. It's a running theme with the Dark Side--You're only vulnerable to it if you let it inside you. Furthermore, Rey doesn't actual kill Palpatine, Palpatine kills himself with his own Force Lightning. She's become one with the force at this point, and the power of the True Force is empowering her, not the "two lightsabers". The sabers were just symbolic of the cumulative effort of the jedi throughout history coming together to stop the greatest evil in the galaxy.

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People in "have different opinions" shocker! If you enjoyed it, cool!

If the first half of the movie didnt feel like a colossal waste of time it might have been good.

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