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SF_Okami
12/19/19 11:22:59 PM
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and thats a fact

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Deku_Link
12/19/19 11:24:56 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
and thats a fact
Now where's my Pokemon Mystery Dungeon for Switch? I don't want my favorite Pokemon series to end. :(

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SF_Okami
12/19/19 11:32:46 PM
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Deku_Link posted...
Now where's my Pokemon Mystery Dungeon for Switch? I don't want my favorite Pokemon series to end. :(
Yeah its so fucking good. I thought Super Mystery Dungeon was great and when I finished it I thought it was just as good as Sky. Looking back, its not, but it is the closest a MD game has come to what Sky is

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EverDownward
12/19/19 11:33:35 PM
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stop tempting me, i know i need to play it :(

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Purple_Cheetah
12/19/19 11:33:41 PM
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hell yes
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SF_Okami
12/19/19 11:34:43 PM
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EverDownward posted...
stop tempting me, i know i need to play it :(
No you need to drop everything and play it. Legitimately a legendary game.

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Frogles
12/19/19 11:36:56 PM
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never actually played one of these games but im kind of interested. whats with the critic reviews though? they're pretty low.

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TreyFlowers
12/19/19 11:37:08 PM
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I cried playing it. lol @ me

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Kircheis
12/19/19 11:37:46 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
Yeah its so fucking good. I thought Super Mystery Dungeon was great and when I finished it I thought it was just as good as Sky. Looking back, its not, but it is the closest a MD game has come to what Sky is

Have you played Gates? I thought Gates' characters were better written than most of Super's characters, and maybe even better than some of Explorers' characters. Explorers may have had the better overall plot, but Gates really nailed the character writing. I especially liked how you had more plot relevant characters join your team throughout the game. If another PMD game ever gets made, I really hope it copies the ensemble cast dynamic that Gates had.

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EverDownward
12/19/19 11:38:38 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
No you need to drop everything and play it. Legitimately a legendary game.
you gonna buy it for me, fam? otherwise, i'm gonna have to wait until i get money.

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SF_Okami
12/19/19 11:39:01 PM
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Frogles posted...
never actually played one of these games but im kind of interested. whats with the critic reviews though? they're pretty low.
Idk. Maybe they wanted a mainline Pokmon game. Everyone I have talked to who has played it has said it is an outstanding game. No one I know said it was bad, or even just good.

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SF_Okami
12/19/19 11:40:28 PM
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TreyFlowers posted...
I cried playing it. lol @ me
I never cried playing games. Sky did it twice. Spoilers below.

the end of the game obviously, and the part with Grovyle, Celebi, and Dusknoir at the very very end. The conclusion of Armaldos story game close too

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TreyFlowers
12/19/19 11:41:57 PM
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Sky and FFX are the only games that have made me cry

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SF_Okami
12/19/19 11:44:07 PM
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Kircheis posted...
Have you played Gates? I thought Gates' characters were better written than most of Super's characters, and maybe even better than some of Explorers' characters. Explorers may have had the better overall plot, but Gates really nailed the character writing. I especially liked how you had more plot relevant characters join your team throughout the game. If another PMD game ever gets made, I really hope it copies the ensemble cast dynamic that Gates had.
I could not get into gates honestly. I hated the starters you got to choose from. The gen 5 starters are easily the weakest ever IMO (Aside from Samurott who is among my favorites ever, but I dont like Oshawott) Pikachu and Axew are fine, but only having 5 is such a bad decision. The story did not pull me as much either. Idk. It just did not feel as strong as Sky or Super

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Deku_Link
12/19/19 11:46:35 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
Yeah its so f***ing good. I thought Super Mystery Dungeon was great and when I finished it I thought it was just as good as Sky. Looking back, its not, but it is the closest a MD game has come to what Sky is
That twist at the end of Super though. I think I kinda saw it coming.

TreyFlowers posted...
I cried playing it. lol @ me
I cried when I played Rescue Team and Sky. >_>

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SF_Okami
12/19/19 11:51:34 PM
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Deku_Link posted...
That twist at the end of Super though. I think I kinda saw it coming.

I cried when I played Rescue Team and Sky. >_>
You talking about the mew thing right? Ill be honest, I didnt see it coming. I thought the ending would be similar to the previous games but that curveball got me good.

and the rescue team games have aged horribly imo. I cant play them anymore. After meeting nine tails, like 90% the game is doing random jobs. It sucks

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Kircheis
12/19/19 11:55:50 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
I could not get into gates honestly. I hated the starters you got to choose from. The gen 5 starters are easily the weakest ever IMO (Aside from Samurott who is among my favorites ever, but I dont like Oshawott) Pikachu and Axew are fine, but only having 5 is such a bad decision. The story did not pull me as much either. Idk. It just did not feel as strong as Sky or Super

That's a shame. It's legitimately my 2nd favorite PMD game just because I like the characters so much. Sure it's easy as sleeping, but I really do think the characters make up for it.

On the other hand, Super is my favorite game to actually play just because it's actually a little challenging. This series is weird like that.

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SF_Okami
12/20/19 12:01:33 AM
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Kircheis posted...
That's a shame. It's legitimately my 2nd favorite PMD game just because I like the characters so much. Sure it's easy as sleeping, but I really do think the characters make up for it.

On the other hand, Super is my favorite game to actually play just because it's actually a little challenging. This series is weird like that.
Ill need to give it another try. I did really like how you can build your own camp and see it take shape. I got to where you take your whole crew up to some ice place in the north looking for treasure. Not sure how far that is

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Deku_Link
12/20/19 12:04:15 AM
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SF_Okami posted...
You talking about the mew thing right? Ill be honest, I didnt see it coming. I thought the ending would be similar to the previous games but that curveball got me good.
Yeah that's the one.
and the rescue team games have aged horribly imo. I cant play them anymore. After meeting nine tails, like 90% the game is doing random jobs. It sucks
As emotional as I was when I played the first game, I'd probably rank it last myself after having played the others after it.

Kircheis posted...
That's a shame. It's legitimately my 2nd favorite PMD game just because I like the characters so much.
I love the soundtrack of Gates honestly. When I heard this track for the first time, it screamed adventure to me.
https://youtu.be/ckwwLwUD3-A

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TreyFlowers
12/20/19 12:06:16 AM
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SPOILERS: The ending. Fuck, I haven't played this game in 8 years and I'm choking up watching it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX2L3YHY0J8

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SF_Okami
12/20/19 12:07:30 AM
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TreyFlowers posted...
SPOILERS: The ending. Fuck, I haven't played this game in 8 years and I'm choking up watching it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX2L3YHY0J8
Yeah its brutal. The Special Episode 5 ending is brutal too.

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Kircheis
12/20/19 12:12:41 AM
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SF_Okami posted...
Ill need to give it another try. I did really like how you can build your own camp and see it take shape. I got to where you take your whole crew up to some ice place in the north looking for treasure. Not sure how far that is. Virizion was there, who I dont like, and I seem to remember Keldeo too but not sure

I don't remember exactly how far that is, but it definitely sounds like you hadn't met Hydreigon yet, so I'd say you haven't seen the best parts of the story yet. There's a scene later on that still sticks out to me as particularly brutal even for PMD's standards. You'll know that scene when you see it lol.

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SF_Okami
12/20/19 12:16:10 AM
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Kircheis posted...
I don't remember exactly how far that is, but it definitely sounds like you hadn't met Hydreigon yet, so I'd say you haven't seen the best parts of the story yet. There's a scene later on that still sticks out to me as particularly brutal even for PMD's standards. You'll know that scene when you see it lol.
yea I know he in the game and is important but did not meet him in my play though. Ill see when I give it another try lol. I still have the game


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Eevee-Trainer
12/20/19 12:23:50 AM
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Frogles posted...
never actually played one of these games but im kind of interested. whats with the critic reviews though? they're pretty low.

Apparently critics generally don't get to play the whole game when making reviews, they only spend a few hours on it. In PMD a lot of the payoff hinges on the story and its ending, though, which the critics don't see when writing the review.

Plus, being a roguelike, even the gameplay isn't quite everyone's thing. It's fun, but IMO the story is the series' main draw.

Basically, focus more on user reviews. Critic reviews are bad metrics.
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Calwings
12/20/19 12:30:37 AM
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I agree with this topic. Best game in the franchise, and one of the top 5 best games in the whole DS library.
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SF_Okami
12/20/19 9:28:47 AM
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Bump

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Deku_Link
12/20/19 3:51:51 PM
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As long as we're discussing Sky, this guy right here knows how to make good remastered tracks of the game. Here's two of them.

Beach Cave: https://youtu.be/OrV7du4pEdg
Temporal Tower: https://youtu.be/pKwL5RXC2Dw

Put a spoiler tag on the second one since the pic gives away the final boss.

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Phantom_Nook
12/20/19 3:55:55 PM
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I never played Sky, but I did play Time.
It was pretty awesome.
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Kaiganeer
12/20/19 4:01:54 PM
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never got the appeal of the mystery dungeon games, they always seemed like low effort cash-ins using the pokemon brand
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Kircheis
12/20/19 4:04:22 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
never got the appeal of the mystery dungeon games, they always seemed like low effort cash-ins using the pokemon brand

They really weren't though. The stories in particular were better than anything the main games put out. They're even kinda fun to play too, especially Super Mystery Dungeon.

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Deku_Link
12/20/19 4:08:35 PM
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Kircheis posted...
They really weren't though. The stories in particular were better than anything the main games put out. They're even kinda fun to play too, especially Super Mystery Dungeon.
Pretty much, yeah. The stories are one of the reasons I moved from the main series to this one.

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SF_Okami
12/21/19 10:15:38 AM
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bump spread awareness

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kylobrr
12/21/19 10:24:11 AM
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missed out on explorers of sky, but at the time red rescue team and explorers of darkness were 2 of my favourite games, and the 3ds ones are pretty good
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Deku_Link
12/21/19 8:30:21 PM
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Also Totodile was my go-to main character for the first two games. Don't care about the quizzes. >_>

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Garioshi
12/21/19 8:31:39 PM
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Correct

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SF_Okami
12/21/19 8:48:47 PM
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I still get the feels when I hear the final song when you are fighting Primal Dialga. Such a good but sad sounding song >.>

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Panthera
12/21/19 8:56:04 PM
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It's good, not great. Gameplay is fun but gets repetitive after a while and later in the game there's too much random annoying shit that can happen in dungeons. Story is also hugely overrated, it's fine but nothing special. For every good part it has, it has an annoying part, and it tends to have about twice as much text as is actually necessary to get the point of any given scene across. Plus I'm not fond of the setup for the postgame, few things in game stories bug me more than the fake tragedy angle, and this game pulls a big one with the ending seeming to be all bittersweet with the main character basically retconning themselves away with the rest of the bad future, but then just kidding! Totally gets to live on. This isn't the worst example of it since at least there's a reasonable justification in that Dialga having the power to make that happen makes sense, but it still annoys me when a story tries to go for emotional appeal with a big character death only to take the easy way out and not have it stick.

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Deku_Link
12/21/19 8:58:37 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
I still get the feels when I hear the final song when you are fighting Primal Dialga. Such a good but sad sounding song >.>
This one? https://youtu.be/-d8ybenQcMs

Just looking for an excuse to post another remaster. Seriously, this guy's good.

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SF_Okami
12/21/19 9:00:39 PM
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Panthera posted...
It's good, not great. Gameplay is fun but gets repetitive after a while and later in the game there's too much random annoying shit that can happen in dungeons. Story is also hugely overrated, it's fine but nothing special. For every good part it has, it has an annoying part, and it tends to have about twice as much text as is actually necessary to get the point of any given scene across. Plus I'm not fond of the setup for the postgame, few things in game stories bug me more than the fake tragedy angle, and this game pulls a big one with the ending seeming to be all bittersweet with the main character basically retconning themselves away with the rest of the bad future, but then just kidding! Totally gets to live on. This isn't the worst example of it since at least there's a reasonable justification in that Dialga having the power to make that happen makes sense, but it still annoys me when a story tries to go for emotional appeal with a big character death only to take the easy way out and not have it stick.
Hard disagree but to each their own

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-Unowninator-
12/21/19 9:03:13 PM
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I remember loving this game. The story, recruiting Pokmon, and my best video game memory: discovering Smoochum's potential is on Zero Isle South.

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12/23/19 10:44:37 AM
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PikachuMaxwell
12/23/19 10:46:46 AM
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I love Pokemon Mystery Dungeon!

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