Poll of the Day > Which country has sovereignty over the Falkland Islands

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Falkland War back int eh 1980s the British won, and the Argentinean government still claims they own the land (yet they invaded the islands)
The residents voted as recently as 2013 i believe to stay part of the British Empire

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The penguins

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Nobody but Argentina believes they have a claim, but that doesn't stop some groups that just want to fuck with the UK.
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Mead posted...

The penguins

They will own the world one day

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Nobody but Argentina believes they have a claim, but that doesn't stop some groups that just want to fuck with the UK.

Most of the South American countries agree with Argentina, while EU and NA agree with the UK.

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The hilarious thing is Argentina denouncing the evils of "British imperialism" over the Falklands. Um, someone please remind me why Argentina is a Spanish-speaking country? Was it because distance learning classes in Spanish proved hugely popular among the indigenous peoples?

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Firewerx posted...

The hilarious thing is Argentina denouncing the evils of "British imperialism" over the Falklands. Um, someone please remind me why Argentina is a Spanish-speaking country? Was it because distance learning classes in Spanish proved hugely popular among the indigenous peoples?

what point are you trying to make

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Mead posted...

what point are you trying to make

That when your entire country is one of the fruits of (Spanish) imperialism, you don't get to throw up your hands in moral horror about a rival empire-building power in the Americas being 'imperialist'. "What the fuck were those other Europeans doing in the South Atlantic?!"

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Pretty sure GB kicked their dicks and took that island back.

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Firewerx posted...

That when your entire country is one of the fruits of (Spanish) imperialism, you don't get to throw up your hands in moral horror about a rival empire-building power in the Americas being 'imperialist'. "What the fuck were those other Europeans doing in the South Atlantic?!"

as a country that experienced imperial colonialism, wouldnt they be exactly the kind of nation that could criticize such a thing?

I really dont understand what kind of argument youre trying to make

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I just wanna post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_f7iEOB8Pc

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The UK. I mean, Argentina might WANT to have sovereignty over them, but they don't. Not until they drive the British off.

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Mead posted...

as a country that experienced imperial colonialism, wouldnt they be exactly the kind of nation that could criticize such a thing?

I really dont understand what kind of argument youre trying to make

Now I suspect you're being wilfully obtuse.

The country and its territorial borders are rooted in Spanish imperial colonialism. So if the descendants of Spanish colonial settlers in Argentina -- and I have absolutely no idea why you're twisting history back to front to pretend that the settlers, as distinct from the indigenous people, were somehow on the receiving end of colonialism -- want to argue that the British colonies on the Falklands (the original British colony in 1766 pre-dated the Spanish presence there) were not "legitimate" because they were established by British imperialism, then the existence of their own country (which was established by the Spanish imperialism of their own colonial-settler forefathers), and their presence in it, cannot have been "legitimate" either.

Every colonial settler from every European imperial power in the Americas during those centuries hammered a stake into the ground in the name of imperialism. Coming from Argentina, the "British imperialists should never have been in the South Atlantic!" argument is like a robber condemning theft to argue why stolen property is rightfully his.

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Firewerx posted...

Now I suspect you're being wilfully obtuse.

The country and its territorial borders are rooted in Spanish imperial colonialism. So if the descendants of Spanish colonial settlers in Argentina -- and I have absolutely no idea why you're twisting history back to front to pretend that the settlers, as distinct from the indigenous people, were somehow on the receiving end of colonialism -- want to argue that the British colonies on the Falklands (the original British colony in 1766 pre-dated the Spanish presence there) were not "legitimate" because they were established by British imperialism, then the existence of their own country (which was established by the Spanish imperialism of their own colonial-settler forefathers), and their presence in it, cannot have been "legitimate" either.

Every European imperial power, every European colonial settler, in the Americas during those centuries was there either to hammer a stake into the ground in the name of imperialism or to benefit from its legacy. Coming from Argentina, the 'British imperialists should never have been in "our" South Atlantic!' argument is like a robber condemning theft to argue why stolen property is rightfully his.

they arent part of Spain or Europe now though, so they can criticize all they want

theyre just Argentina. Do you also think that Americans living in the south shouldnt be allowed to say slavery is bad?

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