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ledbowman 12/15/19 11:08:09 AM #1: |
https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-poll-majority-americans-support-impeaching-donald-trump-removed-office-1477340 --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheHoldSteady 12/15/19 11:09:46 AM #2: |
And that's Fox News
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku 12/15/19 11:15:09 AM #3: |
Looks like someone's getting fired for showing that.
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ledbowman 12/15/19 11:15:46 AM #4: |
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Hexenherz 12/15/19 11:16:21 AM #5: |
I wonder if Fox is doing that because Trump's been angrily tweeting them all week or if it's because that's legitimately what their viewer base thinks.
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 11:18:31 AM #7: |
Dont get excited
Every day Fox puts up articles defending Trump and bashing dems I think this is just fear mongering for their base --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snickers_Pls 12/15/19 11:44:18 AM #8: |
TheHoldSteady posted...
And that's Fox News This ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ethosian 12/15/19 11:54:28 AM #9: |
Even Trumpers know he's guilty
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Garioshi 12/15/19 11:55:42 AM #10: |
Fox News's polling is usually pretry reliable. Still, 50% isn't exactly a mandate.
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Garreyn 12/15/19 12:03:30 PM #11: |
Yes, because the polls have always been in President Trump's favor haven't they?
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Ethosian 12/15/19 12:20:50 PM #12: |
Garreyn posted...
Yes, because the polls have always been in President Trump's favor haven't they?Shook Trumpist is SHOOK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 12/15/19 12:41:13 PM #13: |
Garreyn posted...
Yes, because the polls have always been in President Trump's favor haven't they? donald trump deserves to get the death penalty for all the acts of treason he has committed. --- #DetestableDonald #LockTrumpUp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 12/15/19 12:45:13 PM #14: |
Garioshi posted...
Fox News's polling is usually pretry reliable. Still, 50% isn't exactly a mandate. Support for impeachment for Clinton barely hit 35%. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 12:56:40 PM #15: |
Machete posted...
donald trump deserves to get the death penalty for all the acts of treason he has committed. Jesus dude --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmidgeIsntBack 12/15/19 12:58:27 PM #16: |
Like a lot of the savvy Republicans, they're just preparing for post-Trump "well that was a shitshow, like I said it would be all along."
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ledbowman 12/15/19 1:02:11 PM #17: |
Machete posted...
donald trump deserves to get the death penalty for all the acts of treason he has committed. --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 12/15/19 1:04:48 PM #18: |
Big Yikes lmao
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CarrieChan 12/15/19 1:06:04 PM #19: |
Machete posted...
donald trump deserves to get the death penalty for all the acts of treason he has committed.That may not fly in the current mod enforced political correctness climate. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 1:06:51 PM #20: |
SmidgeIsntBack posted...
Like a lot of the savvy Republicans, they're just preparing for post-Trump "well that was a shitshow, like I said it would be all along."I dont think so. Everyone knows they will not boot Trump out. This Is just fear mongering to get people hyped for the election --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ethosian 12/15/19 1:16:07 PM #21: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I dont think so.You believe the poll is accurate though, right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 12/15/19 1:34:56 PM #22: |
He won't get remove even if 98% of people support it. The GOP doesn't give a fuck about the people or decency or anything but the party.
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 1:40:53 PM #23: |
Ethosian posted...
You believe the poll is accurate though, right?Define accurate I dont think its fake if that's what you mean, but you can manipulate any result you want based on phrasing and who you ask. Simplified example: Should the president be removed from office if he or she commits treason? Should Donald Trump be removed from office due to his phone call with Ukraine? Ask college students then go ask retirement homes. Will get different results then you can cite the results that you want to be demonstrated alongside the point you want to make. Remember when most Americans supported the Affordable Care Act but opposed Obamacare? Most socialists policies are popular in polls when described without mentioning socialism or words with left wing connotations --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/15/19 1:44:39 PM #24: |
hockeybub89 posted...
He won't get remove even if 98% of people support it. The GOP doesn't give a fuck about the people or decency or anything but the party.Actually if 98% supported removal it would be unanimously done by the Senate. Shit is the way it is now because most republican senators who vote to impeach will lose in primary elections. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 12/15/19 1:47:24 PM #25: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Okay? What do you mean? --- #TremblingTrump #LockTrumpUp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Extreme_light 12/15/19 1:48:10 PM #26: |
sadly those 50% likely aren't distributed across states with senator up for reelection in 2020. So they will shoot that down still.
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 1:48:32 PM #27: |
Machete posted...
Okay? What do you mean?You want Donald Trump to be killed That's messed up --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 12/15/19 1:51:25 PM #28: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I want him to receive a legally valid sentence for his crimes as written in the constitution. I'm not just wishing bad fates willy-nilly. If I was doing that, I could do much worse. I'm not though. I'm speaking on a punishment that is legally valid for the crimes committed. --- #TraitorousTrump #LockTrumpUp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IllegalAlien 12/15/19 1:53:20 PM #29: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Define accurateApparently Fox news polls are well regarded. So yeah they have statisticians who know waaaaaaaay more about sampling methodology than this post lmao --- "Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 1:53:45 PM #30: |
IllegalAlien posted...
Apparently Fox news polls are well regarded. So yeah they have statisticians who know waaaaaaaay more about sampling methodology than this post lmao Erm.. That's literally my point. They have the ability and know how to manufacture within reason any result they want legitimately and they choose this. Others are saying it's to take a shot at Trump, I'm saying I think the opposite. In fact just to iterate my point. Here are the top stories from Fox News right now: https://i.imgur.com/p4zIfyE.png All 3 top stories are poo pooing the impeachment and investigations into Trump. Not always all top stories, but every single day at least 1 top story is a staunch defense of Trump and/or an aggressive attack at Democrats disguised as a news report. I don't buy that Fox put this out there to bury Trump because they are mad at him, they put it out to make his supporters concerned and mad and interested in the case that they are burying. "This complete bullshit impeachment might actually go through! Isn't that terrible!? Half of people agree!" is the subtext. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 12/15/19 1:54:47 PM #31: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I dont think its fake if that's what you mean, but you can manipulate any result you want based on phrasing and who you ask. Thankfully, they gave us exactly the question they asked. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 1:58:30 PM #32: |
Anteaterking posted...
Thankfully, they gave us exactly the question they asked.Did they? Was that question above the results the same as the one they asked? Who are registered voters? What was the process of getting the votes? They say 8-11 but what time did the poll start and finish? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 12/15/19 2:07:09 PM #33: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Did they? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-results-december-8-11-2019 --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 12/15/19 2:12:43 PM #34: |
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CarrieChan 12/15/19 2:13:56 PM #35: |
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
150 karmaNice deflection. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 2:17:33 PM #36: |
Anteaterking posted...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-results-december-8-11-2019And as I thought. It didn't mention Ukraine or treason in relation to the impeachment. 91% Republicans said he shouldn't be. Nearly all Dems said he should. As I said, they got the result they manipulated. Don't know why you're fighting me on it, your own link demonstrates my point. I feel like you didn't actually look through it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 12/15/19 2:26:22 PM #37: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
And as I thought. Asking the question without mentioning Ukraine or treason is the neutral way to ask the question. I posted the link to the methodology because you asked methodology questions. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 12/15/19 2:46:34 PM #38: |
Anteaterking posted...
Asking the question without mentioning Ukraine or treason is the neutral way to ask the question. Wut How is mentioning Ukraine or Treason not neutral? Hell they flat out did mention Ukraine just in conjuction with Biden. The question is still neutral, just phrased based on how you want to get the data you desire
Not really. My point was just to say that they manipulate the data they want. Linking the methodology just demonstrated my point --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agnostic420 12/15/19 2:58:20 PM #39: |
Sadly he won't be removed. We need to find a candidate that isn't going bat shit crazy like Biden, or we are FUCKED.
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Anteaterking 12/15/19 2:58:46 PM #40: |
You're claiming that they asked the question that way to get a result they wanted.
Let's look at the topline question for other polls recently about impeachment. Civiqs (12/7-12/11): Should President Trump be impeached and removed from office? Ipsos (12/9-12/10): Which of the following comes closest to your opinion? President Trump should be impeached, President Trump should NOT be impeached, don't know YouGov (12/7-12/10): Do you think the U.S. House of Representatives should or should not impeach Donald Trump? Quinnipiac (12/4-12/9): Do you think that President Trump should be impeached and removed from office, or don't you think so? Is everyone in the tank for Trump? Guns_of_Verdun posted... Not really. Guns_of_Verdun posted... Was that question above the results the same as the one they asked? Idk man, "How do you define your voters", "Did they ask that question", etc. all seem like methodology questions to me. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IllegalAlien 12/15/19 4:02:50 PM #41: |
Apparently the polling unit of Fox is not affiliated with the propaganda division. It's regarded as a high quality polling institution, by other polling institutions. Which means the polling methodology is sound and non-biased. But ok whatever you want to think
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Guide 12/15/19 4:04:57 PM #42: |
Garreyn posted...
Yes, because the polls have always been in President Trump's favor haven't they? I don't think you understand how statistics work. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 12/15/19 5:29:29 PM #43: |
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