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Going up to bat for Nazi soldiers is not a good look
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BLAKUboy posted...

Honestly, Starbucks should have defended the barista since they have the facts on their side, told the pigs to go fuck themselves when they kept whining over their failed false flag and just waited for the conservaderp "boycott" where they order a bunch of coffees with names like "Bluelivesmatter" or whatever.
The only way to lose here was to stand with the pig.

Better to stand with a "pig" and "lose" than to stand with any one of you and "win."

PleaseClap posted...

Going up to bat for Nazi soldiers is not a good look

nemu cant see that

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Bishop9800 posted...

sure....

And again, this circular discussion returns to "is every single one of the millions of soldiers who returned after the war an evil human being?" Does fighting on the front line for Germany in WWII inherently make one a proponent of nazi ideology? Are there not innocent people caught up in horrible cults all the time?

I don't even know why you people are feeding them. Either put them on ignore or mark and move on.
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Annihilated posted...

BLAKUboy posted...

Honestly, Starbucks should have defended the barista since they have the facts on their side, told the pigs to go fuck themselves when they kept whining over their failed false flag and just waited for the conservaderp "boycott" where they order a bunch of coffees with names like "Bluelivesmatter" or whatever.
The only way to lose here was to stand with the pig.

Better to stand with a "pig" and "lose" than to stand with any one of you and "win."

You really need that safe space, huh buddy?

nemu posted...

Does fighting on the front line for Germany in WWII inherently make one a proponent of nazi ideology?

Can you read this back to yourself
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nemu posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

sure....

And again, this circular discussion returns to "is every single one of the millions of soldiers who returned after the war an evil human being?" Does fighting on the front line for Germany in WWII inherently make one a proponent of nazi ideology? Are there not innocent people caught up in horrible cults all the time?

As for the issue at hand

He would have had to have literally made his online account that name for it to show up on the order

And thats already been pointed out
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PleaseClap posted...

Can you read this back to yourself

Your country goes to war for unscrupulous/evil reasons. You have a wife and children at home. You lack the means to remove them and yourself from the country. You're drafted into the army. Do you abandon your family to their fate by either running away or killing yourself, or do you fight? Is that such an impossible scenario to you?

nemu posted...

Your country goes to war for unscrupulous/evil reasons. You have a wife and children at home. You lack the means to remove them and yourself from the country. You're drafted into the army. Do you abandon your family to their fate by either running away or killing yourself, or do you fight? Is that such an impossible scenario to you?

...............................................................goalpost

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Bishop9800 posted...

...............................................................goalpost

That word.

nemu posted...

That word.

and you're defending Nazis, whats your point?

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that goalposts has better footwork than Barry Sanders
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Man if I fought on the front lines for Germany and my only punishment in life was that people wrote "Nazi" on my Starbucks cup, I'd think I was getting off easy.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

that goalposts has better footwork than Barry Sanders

LOL!!!!

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Bishop9800 posted...

and you're defending Nazis, whats your point?

Again, how is saying there is no way that a group of 13 million people can be homogeneously evil defending the group as a whole? Is it really that hard to answer questions? I don't see why it's so hard to engage in a discussion.

nemu posted...

Again, how is saying there is no way that a group of 13 million people can be homogeneously evil defending the group as a whole? Is it really that hard to answer questions? I don't see why it's so hard to engage in a discussion

Dude, just stop. You're making yourself look even worse


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Bishop9800 posted...

Dude, just stop. You're making yourself look even worse

Is it so hard to answer a single question?

nemu posted...

Is it so hard to answer a single question?

Dawg, you're defending Nazis and everything they did. What is so hard about understanding that?

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Bishop9800 posted...

Dawg, you're defending Nazis and everything they did. What is so hard about understanding that?

So you're both disingenuous and refuse to answer a single question.

Rational person in this situation: "OK, maybe I shouldn't have defended Nazis, my bad"

Nemu: *continues defending Nazis and trying to say he's not defending them*

nemu posted...

So you're both disingenuous and refuse to answer a single question.

And you are defending Nazis and making excuses for what they did. Once again, what's your point?

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Ethosian posted...

Rational person in this situation: "OK, maybe I shouldn't have defended Nazis, my bad"

Nemu: *continues defending Nazis and trying to say he's not defending them*

It would be nice if someone would actually answer a question instead of this pretend moral high ground.

nemu posted...

Ethosian posted...

Rational person in this situation: "OK, maybe I shouldn't have defended Nazis, my bad"

Nemu: *continues defending Nazis and trying to say he's not defending them*

It would be nice if someone would actually answer a question instead of this pretend moral high ground.

What exactly do you think youre accomplishing here
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nemu posted...

Ethosian posted...

Rational person in this situation: "OK, maybe I shouldn't have defended Nazis, my bad"

Nemu: *continues defending Nazis and trying to say he's not defending them*

It would be nice if someone would actually answer a question instead of this pretend moral high ground.

It would be nice if you acknowledged that defending Nazis is a really, really dumb hill to die on

nemu posted...

It would be nice if someone would actually answer a question instead of this pretend moral high ground.

It would be even nicer if someone would stop defending a group of people that committed genocide, and still have a effect on people instead of making excuses for them.

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DezDroppedFreak posted...

What exactly do you think youre accomplishing here

Trying to figure out why people are so hellbent on saying literally ever member of the German army was evil when we have literally millions of German soldiers that returned home after the war. That's either saying the allied powers knowingly let the worst evil of all time go, or maybe not every German soldier was evil.

nemu posted...

That's either saying the allied powers knowingly let the worst evil of all time go,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
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yeah,cops are totally good people and are here to serve and protect,they shouldnt be disrespected like this.

PleaseClap posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

And? That's basically a kind of plea deal for a very select few people. That doesn't answer for the millions of others.

I'm still both laughing and cringing at the "Did Nazi soldiers really try to advance the Nazi agenda?" question
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PleaseClap posted...

I'm still both laughing and cringing at the "Did Nazi soldiers really try to advance the Nazi agenda?" question

Do you really think every single soldier had a vested interest in the acts of the nazi party? Do you think there's no chance that the 65,000 people executed for desertion and act of insubordination (at least according to History.com) had no influence on them choosing to continue fighting?

nemu posted...

Do you really think every single soldier had a vested interest in the acts of the nazi party?

If they didn't, they wouldn't have joined. But please, continue to prove what people are saying about you

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Nemu has moved the goalposts so far that they're in the parking lot

Bishop9800 posted...

If they didn't, they wouldn't have joined. But please, continue to prove what people are saying about you

That's a horribly naive take.

nemu posted...

That's a horribly naive take.

Look who's taking

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Bishop9800 posted...

Look who's taking

"0% of 13 million people were good people despite nearly all of the survivors being allowed to return to normal lives by the Allied powers besides the few thousand that were tried and executed" seems more naive to me.

nemu posted...

"0% of 13 million people were good people despite nearly all of the survivors being allowed to return to normal lives by the Allied powers besides the few thousand that were tried and executed" seems more naive to me.

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Bishop9800 posted...

WameisJinston posted...

I know, you have your bias which is very clear and youre plenty set on that. Its cute and sad

kinda like you?

Lolololol there is absolutely no bias here from me kind sir
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nemu posted...

DezDroppedFreak posted...

What exactly do you think youre accomplishing here

Trying to figure out why people are so hellbent on saying literally ever member of the German army was evil when we have literally millions of German soldiers that returned home after the war. That's either saying the allied powers knowingly let the worst evil of all time go, or maybe not every German soldier was evil.

Is it really that hard for you to grasp why people say nazis are/were bad instead of NOT ALL nazis were bad
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Bishop9800 posted...

You seriously don't know what that actually means.

DezDroppedFreak posted...

Is it really that hard for you to grasp why people say nazis are/were bad instead of NOT ALL nazis were bad

I don't think I've anywhere in this discussion implied that the nazis as a whole were not the most evil fuckers the world has ever seen. People want to project that on me instead of having any kind of discussion.

nemu posted...

I don't think I've anywhere in this discussion implied that the nazis as a whole were not the most evil fuckers the world has ever seen. People want to project that on me instead of having any kind of discussion.

It's not about projecting. It's more of a "no shit, what do you expect" kind of thing. Obviously not every member of the Nazi Party was evil, obviously not every German soldier during WWII was an evil bastard who supported genocide.
But what do we gain from pointing out the obvious? It just serves to take away from the very real issues that Nazism presents. You think you're having a nuanced discussion but really you're just coming off as an edgy teen who's trying to one-up their parents because of a technicality.
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Hinakuluiau posted...

It's not about projecting. It's more of a "no shit, what do you expect" kind of thing. Obviously not every member of the Nazi Party was evil, obviously not every German soldier during WWII was an evil bastard who supported genocide.
But what do we gain from pointing out the obvious? It just serves to take away from the very real issues that Nazism presents. You think you're having a nuanced discussion but really you're just coming off as an edgy teen who's trying to one-up their parents because of a technicality.

Because I was accused of defending them, so I brought up the two prior topics I thought that may have triggered such a response. The topic it stemmed from was about a recent super old nazi war criminal and some people presenting the idea that there was literally no way to have for literally anyone fought under Germany while remaining a good person, not even threats or outside duress. That may be obvious to you, but apparently nobody else in this topic so far agrees with you. I'm not trying to attach a percentage. I'm not trying to say they're good as a whole. I'm just saying that there is literally no way each and every member was evil and giving examples as to how that's the case.

nemu posted...

I don't think

And that's your problem, YOU DON'T THINK.

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Guys, stop saying I defend Nazis when all I did was defend Nazis. Thats just disingenuously phrasing my argument.
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nemu should write a book called "The Good Nazi."

it could be about a Nazi soldier with a heart of gold. everybody he kills is very understanding, and their last words are always "It's okay, I can tell you're not that bad. Just reluctantly doing your job."

because they're understanding.

unlike YOU people!
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Bishop9800 posted...

And that's your problem, YOU DON'T THINK.

Why do you keep responding if you refuse to address anything? You've already made your moral grandstand.

nemu posted...

Why do you keep responding if you refuse to address anything? You've already made your moral grandstand.

No, you're the one who's grandstanding while protecting Nazis, and making excuses for them.

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Bishop9800 posted...

No, you're the one who's grandstanding while protecting Nazis, and making excuses for them.

Seeing as it's "buzzword I learned on Wikipedia today" day, strawman,

nemu posted...

Seeing as it's "buzzword I learned on Wikipedia today" day, strawman,

Just like we are all seeing it as " defending Nazis". But hey, call it what you want

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