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antfair
11/26/19 3:41:47 PM
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https://theintercept.com/2019/11/26/amazon-ring-home-security-facial-recognition/
RING, AMAZONS CRIMEFIGHTING surveillance camera division, has crafted plans to use facial recognition software and its ever-expanding network of home security cameras to create AI-enabled neighborhood watch lists, according to internal documents reviewed by The Intercept.

The planning materials envision a seamless system whereby a Ring owner would be automatically alerted when an individual deemed suspicious was captured in their cameras frame, something described as a suspicious activity prompt.

Its unclear who would have access to these neighborhood watch lists, if implemented, or how exactly they would be compiled, but the documents refer repeatedly to law enforcement, and Ring has forged partnerships with police departments throughout the U.S., raising the possibility that the lists could be used to aid local authorities. The documents indicate that the lists would be available in Rings Neighbors app, through which Ring camera owners discuss potential porch and garage security threats with others nearby.

Ring spokesperson Yassi Shahmiri told The Intercept that the features described are not in development or in use and Ring does not use facial recognition technology, but would not answer further questions.

This month, in response to continued pressure from news reports and a list of questions sent by Massachusetts Sen. Edward Markey, Amazon conceded that facial recognition has been a contemplated but unreleased feature for Ring, but would only be added with thoughtful design including privacy, security and user control. Now, we know what at least some of that contemplation looked like.

Mohammad Tajsar, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California, expressed concern over Rings willingness to plan the use of facial recognition watch lists, fearing that giving police departments and consumers access to watch listing capabilities on Ring devices encourages the creation of a digital redline in local neighborhoods, where cops in tandem with skeptical homeowners let machines create lists of undesirables unworthy of entrance into well-to-do areas.

Legal scholars have long criticized the use of governmental watch lists in the United State for their potential to ensnare innocent people without due process. When corporations create them, said Tajsar, the dangers are even more stark. As difficult as it can be to obtain answers on the how and why behind a federal blacklist, American tech firms can work with even greater opacity: Corporations often operate in an environment free from even the most basic regulation, without any transparency, with little oversight into how their products are built and used, and with no regulated mechanism to correct errors, Tajsar said.

Once known only for its line of internet-connected doorbell cameras marketed to the geekily cautious, Ring has quickly turned into an icon of unsettling privatized surveillance. The Los Angeles company, now owned by Amazon, has been buffeted this year by reports of lax internal security, problematic law enforcement partnerships, and an overall blurring of the boundaries between public policing and private-sector engineering. Earlier this year, The Intercept published video of a special online portal Ring built so that police could access customer footage, as well as internal company emails about what Rings CEO described as the companys war on dirtbag criminals that steal our packages and rob our houses."
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DrizztLink
11/26/19 3:43:00 PM
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s0nicfan
11/26/19 3:43:20 PM
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Facial recognition is going to happen no matter how hard people fight against it.

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darkprince45
11/26/19 3:43:35 PM
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Antifar
11/26/19 3:46:52 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Ring?

The bad guys from Chuck?

No.
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GiftedACIII
11/26/19 3:48:23 PM
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It begins
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BLAKUboy
11/26/19 3:49:43 PM
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What, putting a camera constantly connected to the internet on your house may have been a bad idea? Who could have known?
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untrustful
11/26/19 3:51:09 PM
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  • I stroll up into a neighborhood
  • cops show up
  • "You live in sector 2-b don't you? Why are you all the way up north?"
  • "Visiting friends"
  • "Ah, fraternizing. Here's an AFA Form, amazon wants to know who you're visiting and for how long."
  • "I actually don't know how long I'm staying around."
  • "Keep it short. 1 hour, then go back to where you came from 2-b. this is a 67-g sector."
  • "Yes sir."

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Medussa
11/26/19 3:54:00 PM
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I seriously want to just go build a town in the middle of nowhere and ban all this invasive technology bullshit.
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s0nicfan
11/26/19 3:59:09 PM
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untrustful posted...
* I stroll up into a neighborhood
* cops show up
* "You live in sector 2-b don't you? Why are you all the way up north?"
* "Visiting friends"
* "Ah, fraternizing. Here's an AFA Form, amazon wants to know who you're visiting and for how long."
* "I actually don't know how long I'm staying around."
* "Keep it short. 1 hour, then go back to where you came from 2-b. this is a 67-g sector."
* "Yes sir."


All jokes aside, the use cases you're more likely to see when they eventually advertise this to the public are:
  • "Hey honey, I just got a text that someone on the sex offender registry rang our doorbell when our child is home alone."
  • "Hey, there's a UPS guy at the front porch (from screenshot), but it says the guy is currently wanted for armed robbery."
  • The police will automatically be called if anyone with a restraining order walks up to your front door
  • etc.


It's going to be marketed as a personal security system augmented by smart home technology.

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kingdrake2
11/26/19 4:02:49 PM
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i like that ring system. surprises those porch thieves. some tried to steal my shit
even after the UPS/Fed ex arrived not even 5 minutes later.

next time they try this i'm going to leave a package for em but it's not what they'll expect.
doggy droppings.
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