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cmiller4642
11/25/19 8:52:23 PM
#201:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
cmiller4642 posted...
They don't give you an easy way to access classic games legally.

I'm not paying $600+ for Snatcher

then guess what. you dont get to access the game LMAO

when something sells out deal with it.


Shelf collector logic
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Lairen
11/25/19 8:52:47 PM
#202:


Any person pirating or not is commiting much worse crimes. Every. Single. Person. Im more worried about you wearing your seat belt than anyone pirating.

Im arguing pirating is a none issue. Its for those who own the ip to go after them or stfu.
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HerpToTheDerp
11/25/19 8:54:30 PM
#203:


popeyes chicken sandwich sells out in a month: i sleep

obscure video game that i dont need to play sells out after being on the market for decades: REEEEEEEE
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Lairen
11/25/19 8:56:12 PM
#204:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
popeyes chicken sandwich sells out in a month: i sleep

obscure video game that i dont need to play sells out after being on the market for decades: REEEEEEEE


So i cant buy it legally anymore, you say?
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cmiller4642
11/25/19 8:56:42 PM
#205:


Lairen posted...
HerpToTheDerp posted...
popeyes chicken sandwich sells out in a month: i sleep

obscure video game that i dont need to play sells out after being on the market for decades: REEEEEEEE


So i cant buy it legally anymore, you say?


The Immortal John Hancock can show off his sandwich
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HerpToTheDerp
11/25/19 8:58:11 PM
#206:


Lairen posted...
HerpToTheDerp posted...
popeyes chicken sandwich sells out in a month: i sleep

obscure video game that i dont need to play sells out after being on the market for decades: REEEEEEEE


So i cant buy it legally anymore, you say?

so you don't get it. period. or you can cry "BUT DADDY I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW"
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cmiller4642
11/25/19 8:59:06 PM
#207:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
Lairen posted...
HerpToTheDerp posted...
popeyes chicken sandwich sells out in a month: i sleep

obscure video game that i dont need to play sells out after being on the market for decades: REEEEEEEE


So i cant buy it legally anymore, you say?

so you don't get it. period. or you can cry "BUT DADDY I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW"


Or you can choose the alternative method to play the game
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Lairen
11/25/19 9:01:52 PM
#208:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
Lairen posted...
HerpToTheDerp posted...
popeyes chicken sandwich sells out in a month: i sleep

obscure video game that i dont need to play sells out after being on the market for decades: REEEEEEEE


So i cant buy it legally anymore, you say?

so you don't get it. period. or you can cry "BUT DADDY I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW"


My dead fathers (step and biological) will buy it for me? Awesome. Thats legal too.
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ledbowman
11/25/19 9:10:13 PM
#209:


cmiller4642 posted...
They don't give you an easy way to access classic games legally.

I'm not paying $600+ for Snatcher


Entitlement: The Post

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Lairen
11/25/19 9:11:24 PM
#210:


ledbowman posted...
cmiller4642 posted...
They don't give you an easy way to access classic games legally.

I'm not paying $600+ for Snatcher


Entitlement: The Post


So when someone pirates do you just cry?

Win/Win
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p-m
11/25/19 9:14:59 PM
#211:


ledbowman posted...
Entitlement: The Post
Wow, you really are a capitalist sucker
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ledbowman
11/25/19 9:18:32 PM
#212:


I already said who cares if you pirate. Just don't act like you have a right to it

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ssjevot
11/25/19 9:21:33 PM
#213:


p-m posted...
Wow, you really are a capitalist sucker


Actually a lot of the most vocal anti-IP people are anarcho-capitalists (hardcore libertarians in the American sense of the word). IP can only exist through government enforced scarcity. It's a fake market.

Also here is a great book explaining why IP is bad for market economies written by economists (it's free of course):
http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm


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HerpToTheDerp
11/25/19 9:22:22 PM
#214:


literal manchildren itt. SAD!
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Lairen
11/25/19 9:27:26 PM
#215:


ledbowman posted...
I already said who cares if you pirate. Just don't act like you have a right to it


Rights are made up and change all the time.
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HerpToTheDerp
11/25/19 9:30:06 PM
#216:


kinda like the rights to own slaves. thankfully that ended. you have the right to own jack shit. check your fucking privilege.
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Bass_X0
11/25/19 10:43:19 PM
#217:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
kinda like the rights to own slaves. thankfully that ended. you have the right to own jack shit. check your fucking privilege.


That is such legit rage.

Sounds like someone isnt playing the games he wants to but could be playing. I suppose youre also against fan translations as well.
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darkstar4221
11/25/19 11:52:13 PM
#218:


Tyranthraxus posted...
darkstar4221 posted...
But as someone said earlier copyright violation and theft isn't technically the same thing. Since most content is still protected by copyright, all the roms and emulation I have of older video games would be considered stealing since I never bought the original copy.


I have already said theft is taking something that doesn't belong to you without permission is theft. There's no condition required for the original object to be removed. If I use your SSN and birthday to open a bunch of new credit accounts, I've stolen your identity / committed identity theft. You're still very much in possession of your identity however. No one disputes that identity theft is theft.


Identity theft and pirating an authors work are two different things. Your SSN and birthday is your personal information, it's not meant for public consumption. An authors work is meant for public consumption, so pirating a pc video game or hacking your console to play pirated video games is completely game. They are not in anyway similar.
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bnui
11/26/19 2:42:08 AM
#219:


darkstar4221 posted...
An authors work is meant for public consumption, so pirating a pc video game or hacking your console to play pirated video games is completely game. They are not in anyway similar.
Because I'd work my ass off with my team to give everything away for free
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darkstar4221
11/26/19 3:50:02 AM
#220:


bnui posted...
darkstar4221 posted...
An authors work is meant for public consumption, so pirating a pc video game or hacking your console to play pirated video games is completely game. They are not in anyway similar.
Because I'd work my ass off with my team to give everything away for free


That's not the point, anyways there is a difference between personal information and an author's work is my point. You assume that without copyright or if there was lot less copyright that content creators wouldn't be profitable.

Just remember copyright even when it was first became law back in 1710 always benefited the publishers, and that is true today.
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AwesomeToTheMAX
11/26/19 3:51:06 AM
#221:


I clicked this topic expecting to see both Rika and ModLogic and both delivered

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AwesomeToTheMAX
11/26/19 3:55:42 AM
#222:


Anyway this is one of those questions that doesn't have a black and white answer. Piracy is technically stealing, but I'm not going to act moral or righteous to someone who decides to play old ROMs that simply can't be found today for a reasonable price/never came out in their native country/etc. Stronger arguments could be made for newer games, but I'm also not personally bothered by those pirates either.

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shnangyboos
11/26/19 5:13:19 AM
#223:


It's amazing some of the bullshit people do in their heads to justify the shit they do.

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St0rmFury
11/26/19 8:33:02 AM
#224:


I pirated Tomb Raider 2013 and bought it legally on Steam years later when it was at 90% discount >_>
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Lairen
11/26/19 4:54:50 PM
#225:


shnangyboos posted...
It's amazing some of the bullshit people do in their heads to justify the shit they do.


Its amazing you cry on a video games social board about pirates when maybe, at best, .0000001% of pirates are in this topic. They can. Thats the only reason. Few are worried or care about legalities, moralites and least of all some random nobodies on a video game sites social board.
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thanosibe
11/26/19 5:18:38 PM
#226:


shnangyboos posted...
It's amazing some of the bullshit people do in their heads to justify the shit they do.
Ive always wanted to play SOTN on a Saturn. But I cant justify buying a console for one high priced game. I guess instead of hoping it gets ported to a modern console I just go steal one. Cause Konami and Sega arent going to make any money if I buy it legitimately anyway.

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AvantgardeAClue
11/27/19 10:26:18 AM
#227:


thanosibe posted...
shnangyboos posted...
It's amazing some of the bullshit people do in their heads to justify the shit they do.
Ive always wanted to play SOTN on a Saturn. But I cant justify buying a console for one high priced game. I guess instead of hoping it gets ported to a modern console I just go steal one. Cause Konami and Sega arent going to make any money if I buy it legitimately anyway.


To be fair, it is available on Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, and Vita.

But if it wasn't then I totally get it
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AvantgardeAClue
11/27/19 10:31:58 AM
#231:


Hairistotle posted...
In response to the topic prompt


U rite, u rite

for some reason I thought you were disagreeing
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ssjevot
11/27/19 4:08:03 PM
#232:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
To be fair, it is available on Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, and Vita.

But if it wasn't then I totally get it


Pretty sure he wanted to try the few Saturn exclusive areas and features. It runs like shit on Saturn though so I can't recommend it.

Oh and if you are all about following the rules the Saturn version was only released in Japan and it says not for sale outside of Japan on it so...

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Rika_Furude
11/28/19 3:35:43 AM
#233:


@SailorGoon posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
The legal side of things is why its not theft. Its piracy. The data on your computer is not the property of anyone but yourself.

It's called intellectual property. Just because you can get it on your computer doesn't mean it's yours or rightfully belonging to you. Anyways, I voted option 3. Only thing you can argue is the semantics. When you pirate content, you possess something that does not belong to you.


Hence why it's piracy, not theft. Piracy is a form of copyright infringement. Not theft.
They are different enough to be considered different in law.
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bnui
11/28/19 12:11:00 PM
#234:


It not good

No do
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thanosibe
11/28/19 4:57:43 PM
#235:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
To be fair, it is available on Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, and Vita.

But if it wasn't then I totally get it
The Saturn exclusive? Its not the same as the PS1 version.

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Notti
11/30/19 1:00:45 AM
#236:


Bass_X0 posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
you wouldn't download a car


No, we would if we could.


I would sooo download a car.

What were they thinking. Download a car?
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ModLogic
11/30/19 1:43:28 AM
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Rika_Furude
11/30/19 8:03:24 PM
#238:


Notti posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
you wouldn't download a car


No, we would if we could.


I would sooo download a car.

What were they thinking. Download a car?

It will be a reality soon as well, with 3d printing quickly becoming more advanced. Just download a car schematic and print it out
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YellowMustard69
12/01/19 4:01:35 PM
#239:


Just control the means of delivering your content so that it can't be easily duplicated.
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Tyranthraxus
12/01/19 8:26:33 PM
#240:


Rika_Furude posted...
It will be a reality soon as well, with 3d printing quickly becoming more advanced. Just download a car schematic and print it out


What do you mean "soon" it's already happened. A father & son duo 3D printed a Lamborghini Aventador.

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