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Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:19:00 PM #1:	SSDs and even HDDs are not known for their longevity past 5-10 years, those things will fail while Discs can still last way longer if you're not being stupid with it. I can't believe they're really going to sell a game on a SSD, this is going to backfire majorly if any game fails to load because someone bought a dud SSD as one example. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930383587] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>SSDs and even HDDs are not known for their longevity past 5-10 years, those things will fail while Discs can still last way longer if you're not being stupid with it. I can't believe they're really going to sell a game on a SSD, this is going to backfire majorly if any game fails to load because someone bought a dud SSD as one example. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/19/19 4:20:06 PM #2:	They want you to rebuy everything. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:930383645] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>They want you to rebuy everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/19/19 4:20:43 PM #3:	Are they really doing this though? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:930383685] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Are they really doing this though? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:20:55 PM #4:	Then they can kiss my ass. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930383698] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Then they can kiss my ass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 11/19/19 4:21:16 PM #5:	Kaliesto posted... SSDs and even HDDs are not known for their longevity past 5-10 years When you're running them 24/7 NES cartridges still work so I don't see what your point is <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:930383714] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted...</cite> <quote>SSDs and even HDDs are not known for their longevity past 5-10 years</quote> When you're running them 24/7 NES cartridges still work so I don't see what your point is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:22:15 PM #6:	hockeybub89 posted... Are they really doing this though? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/ps5-latest-leak-confirmed-sony-20914852 --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930383761] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Are they really doing this though?</quote> https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/ps5-latest-leak-confirmed-sony-20914852 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 11/19/19 4:24:02 PM #7:	I'll believe it when I see it. --- https://imgur.com/3vHhaAO <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:930383845] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>I'll believe it when I see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:24:13 PM #8:	MarthGoomba posted... When you're running them 24/7 NES cartridges still work so I don't see what your point is Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics, etc. back then and course it's going to last, the only failure you'll see from a NES game if you didn't take care of the pins. Gameboy games had the same issue as well. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930383855] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite> <quote>When you're running them 24/7 NES cartridges still work so I don't see what your point is</quote> Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics, etc. back then and course it's going to last, the only failure you'll see from a NES game if you didn't take care of the pins. Gameboy games had the same issue as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 11/19/19 4:24:43 PM #9:	Foppe posted... They want you to rebuy everything. <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:930383872] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>They want you to rebuy everything. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/19/19 4:25:16 PM #10:	Kaliesto posted... https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/ps5-latest-leak-confirmed-sony-20914852 Didn't Mark Cerny confirm a disc drive earlier this year? This could happen, but a patent existing is not the same as definitely being in the PS5. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:930383900] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/ps5-latest-leak-confirmed-sony-20914852</quote>Didn't Mark Cerny confirm a disc drive earlier this year? This could happen, but a patent existing is not the same as definitely being in the PS5. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spanky1 11/19/19 4:26:03 PM #11:	Wait, I'm not really sure I actually understand. You mean, the ps5 is gonna have their physical games on cartridges basically? Not blu ray? --- https://imgur.com/DCjoiZ0 https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/spanky1-811230163 <cite>spanky1 posted [p:930383941] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Wait, I'm not really sure I actually understand. You mean, the ps5 is gonna have their physical games on cartridges basically? Not blu ray?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 11/19/19 4:27:56 PM #12:	Kaliesto posted... Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics, Wtf does this mean, NES also didnt have a cooling system --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:930384043] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics,</quote> Wtf does this mean, NES also didnt have a cooling system </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/19/19 4:28:36 PM #13:	An SSD failing isn't a huge issue if you can just replace it. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930384074] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>An SSD failing isn't a huge issue if you can just replace it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:29:26 PM #14:	GoodOlJr posted... Wtf does this mean MEANING a NES Cart isn't going to burn out because you played too much on it, constantly playing on a SSD-PS5 game is going to wear out much faster and there is the risk of SSD mechanical failure which can happen at any time. NES doesn't have this issue, only the pins. EDIT because you edited: Yes NES never had one, but I owned a NES and I never once had a overheating issue with it. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930384122] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>Wtf does this mean</quote> MEANING a NES Cart isn't going to burn out because you played too much on it, constantly playing on a SSD-PS5 game is going to wear out much faster and there is the risk of SSD mechanical failure which can happen at any time. NES doesn't have this issue, only the pins. EDIT because you edited: Yes NES never had one, but I owned a NES and I never once had a overheating issue with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/19/19 4:29:39 PM #15:	Kaliesto posted... MarthGoomba posted... When you're running them 24/7 NES cartridges still work so I don't see what your point is Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics, etc. back then and course it's going to last, the only failure you'll see from a NES game if you didn't take care of the pins. Gameboy games had the same issue as well. Neither are consoles today, to be fair. <cite>Esrac posted [p:930384129] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted...</cite> <quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite> <quote>When you're running them 24/7 NES cartridges still work so I don't see what your point is</quote> Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics, etc. back then and course it's going to last, the only failure you'll see from a NES game if you didn't take care of the pins. Gameboy games had the same issue as well. </quote> Neither are consoles today, to be fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:33:36 PM #16:	MC_BatCommander posted... An SSD failing isn't a huge issue if you can just replace it. Yeah but at what cost? --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930384334] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite> <quote>An SSD failing isn't a huge issue if you can just replace it.</quote> Yeah but at what cost? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:34:22 PM #17:	Now someone said there will be a disc drive, so I'm not sure why others are saying it's going to be SSD based. I PRAY hope it's going to be a Disc-drive still. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930384372] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Now someone said there will be a disc drive, so I'm not sure why others are saying it's going to be SSD based. I PRAY hope it's going to be a Disc-drive still. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
runuts27 11/19/19 4:37:07 PM #18:	You don't know what you're talking about. --- I'm interested in this... <cite>runuts27 posted [p:930384506] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>You don't know what you're talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 11/19/19 4:38:25 PM #19:	runuts27 posted... You don't know what you're talking about. Idk man, ssds failing because they have too many moving parts, and hdds are more reliable because they "are disks" Seems to check out --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:930384554] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>runuts27 posted... </cite> <quote>You don't know what you're talking about.</quote> Idk man, ssds failing because they have too many moving parts, and hdds are more reliable because they "are disks" Seems to check out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/19/19 4:41:22 PM #20:	Kaliesto posted... Yeah but at what cost? I would imagine them being quite cheap in 10 years. Storage technology seems to be pretty much always expanding in size while also decreasing in price. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930384688] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah but at what cost?</quote> I would imagine them being quite cheap in 10 years. Storage technology seems to be pretty much always expanding in size while also decreasing in price. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fohstick 11/19/19 4:45:43 PM #21:	PS4 games have trash tier load times. I'd take SSD any day <cite>fohstick posted [p:930384900] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>PS4 games have trash tier load times. I'd take SSD any day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 4:54:10 PM #22:	GoodOlJr posted... Idk man, ssds failing because they have too many moving parts, and hdds are more reliable because they "are disks" Seems to check out What ultimately needs to be done is allow a service on PS5 to connect with the game in question to allow Corruption recovery of said game should it ever come down to that, but if this assuming they will ditch Disc Drives. The 2nd thing as MC stated is I hope if the SSD is complete failure that it will be cheap to replace, but my issue is if the economical aspect can handle it considering the next decade may not be so nice internationally (but this is off-topic). --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930385314] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>Idk man, ssds failing because they have too many moving parts, and hdds are more reliable because they "are disks" Seems to check out</quote> What ultimately needs to be done is allow a service on PS5 to connect with the game in question to allow Corruption recovery of said game should it ever come down to that, but if this assuming they will ditch Disc Drives. The 2nd thing as MC stated is I hope if the SSD is complete failure that it will be cheap to replace, but my issue is if the economical aspect can handle it considering the next decade may not be so nice internationally (but this is off-topic). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 11/19/19 4:55:48 PM #23:	ssd's are cheap and ps consoles you can swap hd easily <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:930385384] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>ssd's are cheap and ps consoles you can swap hd easily</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballinari 11/19/19 5:06:26 PM #24:	I was under the impression that ssds were alot more long lasting --- http://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/danilo_gallinari.jpg <cite>Ballinari posted [p:930385948] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>I was under the impression that ssds were alot more long lasting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 11/19/19 5:11:01 PM #25:	Sorry but speak for yourself. About time SSDs are becoming the standard The load times on consoles are getting atrocious in some games. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:930386200] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Sorry but speak for yourself. About time SSDs are becoming the standard The load times on consoles are getting atrocious in some games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Behaviorism 11/19/19 5:14:31 PM #26:	SwayM posted... Sorry but speak for yourself. About time SSDs are becoming the standard The load times on consoles are getting atrocious in some games. Fallen order. You die? 30 seconds to reload the screen. --- I smell you <cite>Behaviorism posted [p:930386361] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>Sorry but speak for yourself. About time SSDs are becoming the standard The load times on consoles are getting atrocious in some games.</quote>Fallen order. You die? 30 seconds to reload the screen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 11/19/19 5:16:37 PM #27:	lmao what even is this topic? An SSD goes inside the machine. The playstation itself. You install the games onto it. The games dont come on an ssd. If the SSD fails in a decade you can just replace it, its a standard part --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:930386476] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>lmao what even is this topic? An SSD goes inside the machine. The playstation itself. You install the games onto it. The games dont come on an ssd. If the SSD fails in a decade you can just replace it, its a standard part</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 11/19/19 5:16:48 PM #28:	Is it really games on SSD or just easily-expanded storage? I would expect the PS5 to have an internal SSD, at least 500GB, and then Sony sells upgrades. But yeah... games on a hot-swappable SSD. Didn't ever consider that. Sounds really unnecessary and not what's going to happen. Downloading a game digitally still sounds more ideal. I only grab the multiplayer part and as needed, a campaign mode. How much bigger are these games going to get? They're already 75% needlessly uncompressed audio. Games on BD should be a non-starter for next gen. That slot should only be for your movie collection. --- This space for rent <cite>Starks posted [p:930386486] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Is it really games on SSD or just easily-expanded storage? I would expect the PS5 to have an internal SSD, at least 500GB, and then Sony sells upgrades. But yeah... games on a hot-swappable SSD. Didn't ever consider that. Sounds really unnecessary and not what's going to happen. Downloading a game digitally still sounds more ideal. I only grab the multiplayer part and as needed, a campaign mode. How much bigger are these games going to get? They're already 75% needlessly uncompressed audio. Games on BD should be a non-starter for next gen. That slot should only be for your movie collection. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 5:18:31 PM #29:	solosnake posted... lmao what even is this topic? An SSD goes inside the machine. The playstation itself. You install the games onto it. The games dont come on an ssd. If the SSD fails in a decade you can just replace it, its a standard part Don't shoot the messenger, other people were saying that the game was coming on an SSD. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930386577] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite> <quote>lmao what even is this topic? An SSD goes inside the machine. The playstation itself. You install the games onto it. The games dont come on an ssd. If the SSD fails in a decade you can just replace it, its a standard part</quote> Don't shoot the messenger, other people were saying that the game was coming on an SSD. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 11/19/19 5:22:17 PM #30:	It's a fundamental rule of engineering that anything with moving parts will eventually break down. Traditional hard drives contain multiple moving parts LOL <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:930386756] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>It's a fundamental rule of engineering that anything with moving parts will eventually break down. Traditional hard drives contain multiple moving parts LOL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 11/19/19 5:23:24 PM #31:	imagine wanting archaic HDDs xD enjoy insane load times --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:930386813] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>imagine wanting archaic HDDs xD enjoy insane load times</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meestermj 11/19/19 5:25:16 PM #32:	Kaliesto posted... Now someone said there will be a disc drive, so I'm not sure why others are saying it's going to be SSD based. I PRAY hope it's going to be a Disc-drive still. The SSD will be the internal memory. How is this hard to grasp? Being able to hot swap the internal drive != cartridge based games. It's the equivalent of installing games to an external, and swapping to a new external when that one is full. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia <cite>meestermj posted [p:930386915] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Now someone said there will be a disc drive, so I'm not sure why others are saying it's going to be SSD based. I PRAY hope it's going to be a Disc-drive still.</quote>The SSD will be the internal memory. How is this hard to grasp? Being able to hot swap the internal drive != cartridge based games. It's the equivalent of installing games to an external, and swapping to a new external when that one is full. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 5:28:06 PM #33:	No, my issue was that I didn't want to have to be constantly worried not just the internal drive itself of the PS5 ever since the dawn of the PS3 (PS2 technically), but games having to be SSD too. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930387069] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>No, my issue was that I didn't want to have to be constantly worried not just the internal drive itself of the PS5 ever since the dawn of the PS3 (PS2 technically), but games having to be SSD too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 11/19/19 5:28:37 PM #34:	Kaliesto posted... Don't shoot the messenger, other people were saying that the game was coming on an SSD. At that point, why even an SSD? Just for the ridiculous NVME speeds? An SD card would still run circles around an HDD at a fraction of the physical size of an SSD. If Nintendo can make wear-tolerant SD cards and cartridges, there's no reason for Sony to go the extra mile. --- This space for rent <cite>Starks posted [p:930387101] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Don't shoot the messenger, other people were saying that the game was coming on an SSD.</quote>At that point, why even an SSD? Just for the ridiculous NVME speeds? An SD card would still run circles around an HDD at a fraction of the physical size of an SSD. If Nintendo can make wear-tolerant SD cards and cartridges, there's no reason for Sony to go the extra mile. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/19/19 5:29:34 PM #35:	Starks posted... At that point, why even an SSD? Just for the ridiculous NVME speeds? An SD card would still run circles around an HDD at a fraction of the physical size of an SSD. If Nintendo can make wear-tolerant SD cards and cartridges, there's no reason for Sony to go the extra mile. Sony has been known to be cheap since the days of the PS3 if anyone remembers the thermal paste debacle. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930387164] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite> <quote>At that point, why even an SSD? Just for the ridiculous NVME speeds? An SD card would still run circles around an HDD at a fraction of the physical size of an SSD. If Nintendo can make wear-tolerant SD cards and cartridges, there's no reason for Sony to go the extra mile.</quote> Sony has been known to be cheap since the days of the PS3 if anyone remembers the thermal paste debacle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meestermj 11/19/19 5:29:54 PM #36:	Kaliesto posted... No, my issue was that I didn't want to have to be constantly worried not just the internal drive itself of the PS5 ever since the dawn of the PS3 (PS2 technically), but games having to be SSD too. Do you know how expensive SSDs still are? No company out there is going to rely on the cost of an SSD, raising the price of their game, when optical media is still far more cost effective. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia <cite>meestermj posted [p:930387187] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>No, my issue was that I didn't want to have to be constantly worried not just the internal drive itself of the PS5 ever since the dawn of the PS3 (PS2 technically), but games having to be SSD too.</quote>Do you know how expensive SSDs still are? No company out there is going to rely on the cost of an SSD, raising the price of their game, when optical media is still far more cost effective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 11/19/19 5:32:05 PM #37:	You're crazy if you think they are going to shove an SSD in a box to sell. People are confusing that patent for their education device with the PS5. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:930387296] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>You're crazy if you think they are going to shove an SSD in a box to sell. People are confusing that patent for their education device with the PS5. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BIueMonk 11/19/19 5:33:20 PM #38:	LMAO consoles --- DAHYUN = <3 https://imgur.com/bv71aAd <cite>_BIueMonk posted [p:930387354] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>LMAO consoles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 11/19/19 5:33:55 PM #39:	Kaliesto posted... Sony has been known to be cheap since the days of the PS3 if anyone remembers the thermal paste debacle. That's not what the actual problem on launch PS3s is. A lot of people said a lot of things and did various rituals to try to fix them. Thankfully someone actually bothered to do the research on why they broke a couple years ago and it is now easy to fix them. It's simply two bad capacitors. You replace those and the majority of launch PS3s will work again. Longer explanation here: https://www.psx-place.com/threads/tutorial-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod-fix.25260/ --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:930387388] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Sony has been known to be cheap since the days of the PS3 if anyone remembers the thermal paste debacle.</quote> That's not what the actual problem on launch PS3s is. A lot of people said a lot of things and did various rituals to try to fix them. Thankfully someone actually bothered to do the research on why they broke a couple years ago and it is now easy to fix them. It's simply two bad capacitors. You replace those and the majority of launch PS3s will work again. Longer explanation here: https://www.psx-place.com/threads/tutorial-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod-fix.25260/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/19/19 5:35:38 PM #40:	So long it's not dickish about backups being actually functional, there's no big deal It'll inevitably be a non-issue about a decade later (if even that) anyway, thanks to relentless hackers always outliving platform support. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:930387458] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>So long it's not dickish about backups being actually functional, there's no big deal It'll inevitably be a non-issue about a decade later (if even that) anyway, thanks to relentless hackers always outliving platform support.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyuVegas 11/20/19 11:27:08 AM #41:	What I dont understand, especially after reading all the comments of this ridiculous topic, yes I read all of them, is the fear mongering going on. Like why the doomsaying? Ill be the first to admit I dont understand computing all that well, I just use the devices, but to say discs are so much better because so many x,y,z reasons without even wanting to give this a chance seems a bit... prejudicial. Yall dont even want to give it a chance? Discs have Pretty much reaches the end of their road in capacity. We seemingly arent researching those holographic discs that supposedly hold 400-500GB a disc, and instead are going with more reliable hardware in SSDs as that technology develops more... and all TC wants to do is claim how dumb and unreliable it all is? I mean dont we at least owe seeing this tech work first? Im definitely interested in seeing how itll work as Ive heard things from developers that discs are hamstringing development And forcing stuff like Marvels Spider-Man and Rockstars Red Dead Redemption 2 to duplicate their data over 500 times on the disc to achieve those load speeds they are achieving, and as consequence data sizes of games are ballooning out of control. To reduce load times across the board AND unnecessary data bloat Seems well worth going forward with SSDs, especially over claim that theyll just fail more. --- NP \| DOOM(All Diffies), DBFZ, Super Mario Odyssey, Link's Awakening 'Ive seen Ryu on the MtG board so hes already cooler than most of you.' ~XImperialDragon <cite>RyuVegas posted [p:930422077] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>What I dont understand, especially after reading all the comments of this ridiculous topic, yes I read all of them, is the fear mongering going on. Like why the doomsaying? Ill be the first to admit I dont understand computing all that well, I just use the devices, but to say discs are so much better because so many x,y,z reasons without even wanting to give this a chance seems a bit... prejudicial. Yall dont even want to give it a chance? Discs have Pretty much reaches the end of their road in capacity. We seemingly arent researching those holographic discs that supposedly hold 400-500GB a disc, and instead are going with more reliable hardware in SSDs as that technology develops more... and all TC wants to do is claim how dumb and unreliable it all is? I mean dont we at least owe seeing this tech work first? Im definitely interested in seeing how itll work as Ive heard things from developers that discs are hamstringing development And forcing stuff like Marvels Spider-Man and Rockstars Red Dead Redemption 2 to duplicate their data over 500 times on the disc to achieve those load speeds they are achieving, and as consequence data sizes of games are ballooning out of control. To reduce load times across the board AND unnecessary data bloat Seems well worth going forward with SSDs, especially over claim that theyll just fail more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 11/20/19 11:29:05 AM #42:	the main issue with SSD's is data degradation after being unpowered for periods of time. Lets say you have your PS5 packed up for a year. Well, when you boot it back up again, the data on the drive will probably be borked. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:930422157] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>the main issue with SSD's is data degradation after being unpowered for periods of time. Lets say you have your PS5 packed up for a year. Well, when you boot it back up again, the data on the drive will probably be borked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 11/20/19 11:30:24 AM #43:	Digital will still be an option. That's how I do things. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:930422208] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Digital will still be an option. That's how I do things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 11/20/19 11:31:51 AM #44:	Imagine not knowing the difference between disc/disk. <cite>Trumpo posted [p:930422266] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Imagine not knowing the difference between disc/disk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvenSpoonier 11/20/19 12:03:31 PM #45:	Kaliesto posted... Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics, etc. back then Relative to the hardware, they were. And when they ran into the limits of native hardware power -which happened surprisingly quickly- they started incorporating expansion chips into the cartridges to go, dare I say it, EVEN FURTHER BEYOND Seriously. 8-bit devs, and even 16-bit devs to a lesser degree, pushed their hardware in ways that make today's consoles look flat-out lazy. --- "Playing a game for its graphics is like watching pornography for the story." - Kadiroth <cite>EvenSpoonier posted [p:930423804] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Those things weren't running over the top balls to the wall gameplay, graphics, etc. back then</quote>Relative to the hardware, they were. And when they ran into the limits of native hardware power -which happened surprisingly quickly- they started incorporating expansion chips into the cartridges to go, dare I say it, EVEN FURTHER BEYOND Seriously. 8-bit devs, and even 16-bit devs to a lesser degree, pushed their hardware in ways that make today's consoles look flat-out lazy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 11/20/19 12:18:30 PM #46:	Kaliesto posted... SSD mechanical failure fucking lmao --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:930424459] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted...</cite> <quote>SSD mechanical failure</quote> fucking lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 11/20/19 2:39:00 PM #47:	Paragon21XX posted... fucking lmao Figure of speech @Paragon21XX , I don't mean moving parts. https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-warning-signs-ssd-break-fail/ --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:930430869] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted... </cite> <quote>fucking lmao</quote> Figure of speech @Paragon21XX , I don't mean moving parts. https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-warning-signs-ssd-break-fail/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/20/19 2:56:54 PM #48:	Modern SSDs dont have this problem anymore. You arent likely to ever reach the theoretical read/write limit of a modern SSD any time before all the other components in your console break 20 years from now --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:930431690] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Modern SSDs dont have this problem anymore. You arent likely to ever reach the theoretical read/write limit of a modern SSD any time before all the other components in your console break 20 years from now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 11/20/19 2:57:30 PM #49:	There's absolutely 0% chance that the PS5 doesn't have a disc drive --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:930431718] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>There's absolutely 0% chance that the PS5 doesn't have a disc drive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 11/20/19 5:00:45 PM #50:	Rika_Furude posted... Modern SSDs dont have this problem anymore. You arent likely to ever reach the theoretical read/write limit of a modern SSD any time before all the other components in your console break 20 years from now Even older ones. I have a 6 year old 840 pro with this many writes.. https://i.imgur.com/Eg8aQ2c.png Still works great, no issues. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:930437857] in Games on S... [t:78177391]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Modern SSDs dont have this problem anymore. You arent likely to ever reach the theoretical read/write limit of a modern SSD any time before all the other components in your console break 20 years from now</quote> Even older ones. I have a 6 year old 840 pro with this many writes.. https://i.imgur.com/Eg8aQ2c.png Still works great, no issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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