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Master_Bass
11/14/19 10:29:02 AM
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bevan306 posted...
impeached but not removed

This. Just because you're impeached doesn't mean you're going anywhere. I don't see the Senate ousting him.
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EzeDoesIt
11/14/19 10:35:44 AM
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cjs28 posted...
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ledbowman
11/14/19 10:40:11 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm so tired of people not knowing the difference between impeachment and removal from office.

Why are people so quick to point it out unprompted. Like no shit. It's like they're consoling themselves or saving face
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Machete
11/14/19 10:46:20 AM
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Absolutely... but the the genital-less Senate won't do their god damn job and toss him out probably
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 10:50:20 AM
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No. Once it reaches the Senate the impeachment has no way of passing. This whole hearing is a waste of time
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itachi15243
11/14/19 10:50:52 AM
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50-50, hopefully it'll stop any reelection woes

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UnholyMudcrab
11/14/19 11:10:57 AM
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ledbowman posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm so tired of people not knowing the difference between impeachment and removal from office.

Why are people so quick to point it out unprompted. Like no shit. It's like they're consoling themselves or saving face

The hell are you even on about?
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ledbowman
11/14/19 1:05:20 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
ledbowman posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm so tired of people not knowing the difference between impeachment and removal from office.

Why are people so quick to point it out unprompted. Like no shit. It's like they're consoling themselves or saving face

The hell are you even on about?

Oh dang i misread your post so i see how it doesn't follow, but it was just talking about how so many very large undulating brains chime in about the difference. Not that that's what you were doing
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Heineken14
11/14/19 1:45:09 PM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
No. Once it reaches the Senate the impeachment has no way of passing. This whole hearing is a waste of time


That's an incredibly dangerous viewpoint.
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Frisk
11/14/19 1:45:48 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Not with Republicans in the Senate being beyond corrupt

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Awesome
11/14/19 1:47:08 PM
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if trump doesnt get impeached and removed then he'll win in 2020 because of it.
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Hop103
11/14/19 1:55:14 PM
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0% chance.
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 2:00:25 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
That's an incredibly dangerous viewpoint.


I feel like the Dems are abusing the Impeachmement process because the party leaders want Trump gone. The conversation with Ukraine doesn't look like it's enough evidence of wrong doing to get a whole President impeached. They should have found another way to come at him if they wanted him gone. Or actually provide Tangibles for their constituents instead of lying and playing Identity politics and outrage politics so much
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 2:16:45 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
lmao the president isnt allowed to withhold military aide until a foreign country investigated his politics opponents, what is hard to understand about that and what does it have to do with identity politics?


Hunter Biden was doing some really illegal things in Ukraine. He was using his name and influence to line him and his family pockets. The President of the United States has the right to investigate things like that. Especially when you have agents of your own government acting illegally in foreign countries. I don't think he's doing it just because Biden is a political opponent. They really have been crooked and sloppy over the years. Look up Hunter Biden's history when you get a chance

I'm not a Trump supporter but in this case I don't think he's wrong. The whole impeachment process has become a media circus
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UnholyMudcrab
11/14/19 2:20:39 PM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
I'm not a Trump supporter

Oh hey, look, I've certainly never seen that before. What a new and exciting tactic they've come up with.
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creativerealms
11/14/19 2:23:13 PM
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No but I don't think it's a waste of money. The truth isn't a waste oc money.
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 2:31:59 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Even if Joe and Hunter Biden broke the law, Trump still isnt allowed to withhold aid until the Ukrainian government investigated them. Its still illegal and impeachable.

So do you have any actual defense for what Trump did? Or do you admit that he should be impeached?


Is there strong proof that he denied aid? Also how was Ukraine approved to get that aid in the first place?
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COVxy
11/14/19 2:36:07 PM
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"I'm totally not a Trump supporter"
*vomits Trump talking points onto the page*

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TheBiggerWiggle
11/14/19 2:57:10 PM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
Hunter Biden was doing some really illegal things in Ukraine. He was using his name and influence to line him and his family pockets. The President of the United States has the right to investigate things like that. Especially when you have agents of your own government acting illegally in foreign countries. I don't think he's doing it just because Biden is a political opponent. They really have been crooked and sloppy over the years. Look up Hunter Biden's history when you get a chance

I'm not a Trump supporter but in this case I don't think he's wrong. The whole impeachment process has become a media circus


what a misinformed pile of garbage of a post


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Hanky_Bannister
11/14/19 2:57:58 PM
#75:


bevan306 posted...
impeached but not removed

This. TC needs a better pool
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Crepes
11/14/19 2:59:08 PM
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If this isnt worth impeachment I dont think anything is.
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Hanky_Bannister
11/14/19 3:01:05 PM
#77:


bevan306 posted...
impeached but not removed

This. TC needs a better poll
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L0Z
11/14/19 3:05:56 PM
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Impeached yes removed no. Impeach means to charge with misconduct. Remember anyone can sue anyone in America it doesnt mean youll win.
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cjs28
11/14/19 6:10:20 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
bevan306 posted...
impeached but not removed

This. TC needs a better poll

sucks brah
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
11/14/19 6:15:01 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
There is literally no chance hes not impeached. The question is whether he will be removed.

The guy with a higher approval rating than Obama? Removed? Haha yeah right....
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Hexenherz
11/14/19 6:16:05 PM
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This is a shitty poll. Given the extent of stupidity in our country and the corruption of certain politicians, it's unlikely that he will be removed due to impeachment. But I also don't consider it a waste of money - I support the proceedings 100%.

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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 6:32:46 PM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
what a misinformed pile of garbage of a post


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vCSF3reVr10

It's true. Joe Bidens son was influence hustling in Ukraine lining his pockets and the Ukraine government was investigating him for illegal activity. Joe Biden went and had the prosecutor of Ukraine fired.

Hunter Biden's been involved in a lot of illegal advices activities and his Father always covered for him. He even got dishonorabley discharged from the military for cocaine and his Father covered for him. Look it up. They've been crooked for a long time. And Biden (Hillary as well and Obama's cabinet and the CIA) pulled their weight a lot under Obama. Sometimes forcing him to do things that he may not have wanted to do. (The Libyan War especially.) They went above their authority in various countries numerous times which got us into situations in countries we shouldn't have been involved with

The media is focusing on Trump and his conversation with the prime minister instead of the actual wrong doing because they don't care if the country ends up in perpetual warfare
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Tyranthraxus
11/14/19 6:39:40 PM
#84:


Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
It's true.
You know that video is fake and has already been discredited by the source that supposedly recorded it, right?

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Hexenherz
11/14/19 6:43:03 PM
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and the Ukraine government was investigating him for illegal activity.


The Ukrainian government has stated multiple times that there was no investigation into Hunter Biden, like at any point in time. He wasn't on their radar, and the investigation into Burisma happened by and large before he was hired there.

Joe Biden went and had the prosecutor of Ukraine fired.


He was acting in partnership with *many* other countries, including the UK, to do this. Everyone was pissed off about Shokin; he was supposed to be the head prosecutor in leading anti-corruption cases, and yet there were tons of allegations that he was stonewalling and stalling the progress of those very same cases. So yeah, he was maybe "assigned" to the investigation, but that doesn't mean he was actually doing any work on that investigation - according to the allegations, it was quite the contrary.

He even got dishonorabley discharged from the military for cocaine and his Father covered for him.


He wasn't "dishonorabley [sic] discharged", he was given an administrative separation which is fairly standard procedure for one-off drug offenses when no other crime was committed. It's even *more* standard when a person hasn't even been in for a year.


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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 7:14:23 PM
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https://tinyurl.com/y4uhgr7x

Look them up for yourself guys. What makes Hunter Biden qualified to run the largest oil and gas company in Ukraine weeks after being discharged from the Navy for Cocaine use?

And how can you trust a junky to run the largest oil and gas company in a key geopolitical region? He couldn't even stay off drugs in the Navy but we're supposed to believe he was qualified to run this company? And that's not the only trouble he's been involved in

There's a lot of indicators of abuse here. Is this really representing the country well? Is the President of the United States supposed to allow such rampant abuse to go. I don't like Trump but as a President I don't see where this was out of bounds to investigate. I read and listened to the transcript that was released between the two presidents. From my Pov he just asked the guy to look into the issue. Countries and Presidents collaberate all the time. I'm sure all the past presidents have had similar conversation.

Why is the MSM not focusing or reporting at all on the obvious abuse here by the Biden's?
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Hexenherz
11/14/19 7:17:35 PM
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What makes Hunter Biden qualified to run the largest oil and gas company in Ukraine weeks after being discharged from the Navy for Cocaine use?


The fact that he worked there is weird, but he wasn't running the company and a private employer can hire anyone they want to regardless if the person was discharged or not from the military. Administrative separations are not career killers; even less so when you're talking about working for a foreign company...

I don't like Trump but as a President I don't see where this was out of bounds to investigate.


Because he allegedly conditioned the release of foreign aid on a very, very specific issue that is now tantamount to a conspiracy theory because of how ultimately insignificant it is, and which had absolutely no connection whatsoever to the transfer of military aid.

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TheMikh
11/14/19 7:20:23 PM
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If it comes down to a vote, it depends on how badly the least pro-Trump Republican in the Senate wants to get reelected.
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 7:47:07 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
The fact that he worked there is weird, but he wasn't running the company


It doesn't matter, why is he even on the board? He's not qualified at all it's more than just weird.

Also to test positive for cocaine is hard. It leaves the system within 7 days for him to test positive he must have been using heavy.

Why is he on the board of the biggest oil and gas company in Ukraine a key region between Russia and the EU?? He had no reason to be there. It's not just any old foreign company. That's crazy Nepotism.

And then there's allegations of illegal money transfers and influence hustling etc. Allegedly Joe Biden put his unqualified son at the head of the most important oil and gas company in in a contentious for the USA and Russia so he and the Biden family could personally profit. It's insane. There's so much evidence of wrong doing here. Yet the media doesn't report on it

Hexenherz posted...
Because he allegedly conditioned the release of foreign aid on a very, very specific issue that is now tantamount to a conspiracy theory because of how ultimately insignificant it is, and which had absolutely no connection whatsoever to the transfer of military aid.


It's not a conspiracy. If anything there's just as much evidence implicating Biden than Trump.
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thronedfire2
11/14/19 7:48:35 PM
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What people have to realize is that even though these unofficial channels of communication are legal, as is withholding aid, thats only if theyre used to pursue US foreign policy. Investigating a political candidate is not US policy. And you could tell both witnesses yesterday were very bothered by that method of communication and Giulianis whole involvement. When is the last time a presidents personal attorney was handling foreign policy?

as for it being hearsay, theyre now going to bring in the people who heard things first hand and have them testify under oath what Trump really said and did. This is just the information gathering part of the hearing, they just used yesterday to establish background and get on record who they heard things from.

But Trumpers will just deflect like all the Republican reps did yesterday. They just talked about how good Trump is and there were literal but Hillary/Obama! moments. Not to mention trying to find out who the whistleblower is while repeatedly being told not to talk about it. They sound like half the shitposters here

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Ic3Bullet
11/14/19 7:51:14 PM
#92:


gunplagirl posted...
Not with Republicans in the Senate being beyond corrupt
We agree on something.
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 8:08:23 PM
#93:


thronedfire2 posted...
What people have to realize is that even though these unofficial channels of communication are legal, as is withholding aid, thats only if theyre used to pursue US foreign policy. Investigating a political candidate is not US policy


If they're doing crooked things. Especially this blatantly. In a foreign country. That definitely is apart of US foreign policy. You want rouge agents doing whatever they want to do for personal gain, while out representing the USA in the world stage? I mean the USAs reputation is definitely not good around the world but still from the criteria you are stating, investigating that is within the Presidents jurisdiction. And it would be good for the people to know tbh

thronedfire2 posted...
Investigating a political candidate is not US policy.


It's not investigating a political candidate. It's investigations a Vice President and his son on official US duty in a foreign country. It would be different if it was Bernie Sanders or someone like that
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thronedfire2
11/14/19 8:11:15 PM
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Ukraine already investigated Biden. that investigation was closed. Trump asked him to investigate again, he agreed, and then that investigation never happened officially. That's why this backchannel communication is such a big deal.

and the aid just happened to be released 2 days after the White House found out the investigation began

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UnholyMudcrab
11/14/19 8:11:56 PM
#95:


Please stop responding to that guy. It's plainly obvious he's not arguing in good faith.
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thronedfire2
11/14/19 8:12:47 PM
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it's good information for people who didn't watch the hearing to have though since the Trumpers just post straight lies

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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/14/19 8:18:25 PM
#97:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Please stop responding to that guy. It's plainly obvious he's not arguing in good faith.


That's not true. But I'll stop hear let's agree to disagree. I still think what Biden did is wrong. And Trump had the jurisdiction to investigate that. I'm not trying to change opinions just wanted to share my Pov
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RescueBC
11/14/19 8:20:19 PM
#98:


Bullet_Wing posted...
masticatingman posted...
If there is evidence out there that there are enough Senate votes to get him removed...Ive never seen it. Only hypothetical dream pieces by journalists.
There'd definitely be enough votes if the vote was anonymous. However attaching your name to a removal vote is political suicide. So he won't be removed. But at least this way the public clearly gets to see what a corrupt piece of shit he is.

Bullet_Wing posted...
Caution998 posted...
so you'll take a bet that he won't be re-elected?

Sign me up.
Sure. I already have real money on it from when the odds were much worse. 2018 confirmed some assumptions I made. I gave him a 30% chance in 16, I think he has less than half that now and going down. The blue wall only fell because he was facing Hillary Clinton. Even then he won by only 77 thousand votes TOTAL in those 3 important states. He certainly hasn't picked up votes since then.


Why do you think TN went from blue to red after 2012? We flipped faster than a flippase flips a phospholipid.
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Heineken14
11/15/19 12:34:02 AM
#99:


Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
I feel like the Dems are abusing the Impeachmement process because the party leaders want Trump gone.


Doesn't matter what you feel. They absolutely are not.
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Heineken14
11/15/19 12:35:08 AM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
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Hunter Biden was doing some really illegal things in Ukraine. He was using his name and influence to line him and his family pockets. The President of the United States has the right to investigate things like that. Especially when you have agents of your own government acting illegally in foreign countries. I don't think he's doing it just because Biden is a political opponent. They really have been crooked and sloppy over the years. Look up Hunter Biden's history when you get a chance

I'm not a Trump supporter but in this case I don't think he's wrong. The whole impeachment process has become a media circus


Oh, well your problem is that you believe things that are inherently wrong. Stop listening to right wing news, you'll do better for yourself.
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