Current Events > pls don't buy into the neuroflobology of 'dopamine fasting'

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/style/dopamine-fasting.html

This is one of the silliest things I've read in a while.

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"We're addicted to dopamine"

fuck off, that's a slap in the face to actual addicts, especially those hooked on opioids

That's uh, something. Something ignorant, but hey, it's something!
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Gonna start reading it now, what's wrong with it? This is the first time I'm hearing about this.

They would not be eating. They would not look at any screens. They would not listen to music. They would not exercise. They would not touch other bodies for any reason, especially not for sex. No work. No eye contact. No talking more than absolutely necessary. A photographer could take their picture, but there could be no flash

Sounds silly. But at least it they allow reading.
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Okay, but tell us why it's wrong.
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As an accredited neuroflobologist, I resent this topic.
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Sad_Face posted...

Gonna start reading it now, what's wrong with it? This is the first time I'm hearing about this.

They would not be eating. They would not look at any screens. They would not listen to music. They would not exercise. They would not touch other bodies for any reason, especially not for sex. No work. No eye contact. No talking more than absolutely necessary. A photographer could take their picture, but there could be no flash

Sounds silly. But at least it they allow reading.

Seeing all they don't do, I assume they don't read either, and just basically sit there doing nothing all day.
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Seems like the first of first world problems

Our lives are so fantastic that we have to step away from it all in order to not lose appreciation for things.
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Guide posted...

Okay, but tell us why it's wrong.

Dopamine is a fundamental neurotransmitter, it doesn't just signal pleasure, in fact it likely doesn't signal pleasure at all! It's involved in learning, motivation, flexible behavior, etc. The dopaminergic system is very complicated, and removing "stimulating" things from your life isn't targeting it.

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COVxy posted...

Guide posted...

Okay, but tell us why it's wrong.

Dopamine is a fundamental neurotransmitter, it doesn't just signal pleasure, in fact it likely doesn't signal pleasure at all! It's involved in learning, motivation, flexible behavior, etc. The dopaminergic system is very complicated, and removing "stimulating" things from your life isn't targeting it.

Dr. Cameron Sepah is a start-up investor, professor at UCSF Medical School and dopamine faster. He uses the fasting as a technique in clinical practice with his clients, especially, he said, tech workers and venture capitalists.

The name dopamine fasting is a bit of a misnomer. Its more of a stimulation fast. But the name works well enough, Dr. Sepah said.

Dopamine is just a mechanism that explains how addictions can become reinforced, and makes for a catchy title, he wrote in an email. The titles not to be taken literally.

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Literally sticking a neuro word into a product without any literal link to neuroscience is like the definition of neuroflappdoodle.

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COVxy posted...

Literally sticking a neuro word into a product without any literal link to neuroscience is like the definition of neuroflappdoodle.

Yes, flapdoodle is rather common in coming up with a catchy title.
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Isnt this called meditation or something?

dopamine fasting is a dumb name

It's also not exactly what they are claiming:

Were addicted to dopamine, said James Sinka, who of the three fellows is the most exuberant about their new practice. And because were getting so much of it all the time, we end up just wanting more and more, so activities that used to be pleasurable now arent. Frequent stimulation of dopamine gets the brains baseline higher.

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NYTimes continues its death spiral with clickbait.
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stone posted...

Seeing all they don't do, I assume they don't read either, and just basically sit there doing nothing all day.

Throughout that day of their dopamine fast, they wandered slowly from room to room. They read. They put on more and more sweaters. The food fasting makes them cold. They went on walks, though these are tricky because they have to avoid needing to ask for anything like water or bathrooms.

They're not total waste of spaces.
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I'm not a scientist, but it seems to me like any kind of result achieved from "dopamine fasting," including the no-fap-november situation, is just a placebo. You think you're going to be more driven and motivated, so you are.
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Sad_Face posted...

They're not total waste of spaces.

I beg to differ lmao

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Sad_Face posted...

stone posted...

Seeing all they don't do, I assume they don't read either, and just basically sit there doing nothing all day.

Throughout that day of their dopamine fast, they wandered slowly from room to room. They read. They put on more and more sweaters. The food fasting makes them cold. They went on walks, though these are tricky because they have to avoid needing to ask for anything like water or bathrooms.

They're not total waste of spaces.

Aaah my bad, I didn't click the link, only went with that short version he posted that didn't mention reading.

But yeah the whole thing is stupid.

COVxy posted...

Sad_Face posted...

They're not total waste of spaces.

I beg to differ lmao

and yeah, that
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Sounds like nonsense
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Romes187 posted...

Isnt this called meditation or something?

dopamine fasting is a dumb name

It's called No nut November
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BignutzisBack posted...

It's called No nut November

Oh noooooo.....

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Silicon valley folk are always such tools lol

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Isn't this literally just asceticism but with 'dopamine' instead of pleasure
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treewojima posted...

"We're addicted to dopamine"

fuck off, that's a slap in the face to actual addicts, especially those hooked on opioids

Pretty much this.
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Don't knock it till you try it

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