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Jagr_68
10/31/19 10:59:25 AM
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Thought it was a pretty stupid term from progressives to just add an x after latin but I have no right as a cisgender male even as partially Hispanic to say so.

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SSJGrimReaper
10/31/19 11:00:01 AM
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isn't that a gta radio station
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Inappropriate
10/31/19 11:00:23 AM
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The Trent
10/31/19 11:00:44 AM
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hell yeah!
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konokonohamaru
10/31/19 11:00:54 AM
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I kinda doubt the majority of actual latinx people cares about this but whatevs
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Vicious_Dios
10/31/19 11:00:54 AM
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That's nice, but I'll stick with Latino and Latina. Thanks.

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R1masher
10/31/19 11:02:01 AM
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Its not an xman?
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Jagr_68
10/31/19 11:03:00 AM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
isn't that a gta radio station


Aye!
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SquantoZ
10/31/19 11:04:49 AM
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It's just a gender neutral term to use if you fee like it. It's not gonna replace latina or latino

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Pogo_Marimo
10/31/19 11:05:36 AM
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"Moral = if it doesn't matter or affect you in any way, don't waste your time"

This is the antithesis of critical thinking. Imagine if enlightenment philosphers had this kind of anti-intellectual attitude when it came to ideas--We'd probably still be living under Monarchies tbqh.

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AlephZero
10/31/19 11:08:38 AM
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luh tinks
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Flockaveli
10/31/19 11:09:48 AM
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Latam
Latin American
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ThyCorndog
10/31/19 11:13:08 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
as a cisgender male

always gets me
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Jagr_68
10/31/19 11:23:37 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
"Moral = if it doesn't matter or affect you in any way, don't waste your time"

This is the antithesis of critical thinking. Imagine if enlightenment philosphers had this kind of anti-intellectual attitude when it came to ideas--We'd probably still be living under Monarchies tbqh.


I see it as succumbing to humility. Like why bother doubling down on strawman tactics when you can just easily admit "yeah I was wrong and that makes sense...I don't care anymore I got better things to do than shitpost IRL."

Plus in this case, if like a gender neutral person of Hispanic descent wants to be called something different without being aggro about it, then fuck regardless of how dumb it sounds to you, it won't kill you inside to be considerate of that.
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Garioshi
10/31/19 11:26:31 AM
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Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.
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ASithLord7
10/31/19 11:29:28 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.

Theyre not that complicated
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Garioshi
10/31/19 11:30:57 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.

Theyre not that complicated

But they are unnecessary. English has almost no gendered words outside of pronouns, and it makes no sense. "They" works just as well as "he" or "she".
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ThyCorndog
10/31/19 11:32:05 AM
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gendered words aren't going to disappear. it's way too much work for every spanish speaking country to completely uproot their language's grammar and vocabulary like that. it's not worth it to anyone. people might personally choose to use terms like latinx, but it's never going to be an official thing
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darkphoenix181
10/31/19 11:32:30 AM
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1. Is your gf latinx?

2. Did she school you in bed?

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Garioshi
10/31/19 11:34:21 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
gendered words aren't going to disappear. it's way too much work for every spanish speaking country to completely uproot their language's grammar and vocabulary like that. it's not worth it to anyone. people might personally choose to use terms like latinx, but it's never going to be an official thing

I'm not talking about Spanish, I'm just talking about English.
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Jagr_68
10/31/19 11:35:00 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.


I feel like if this was the primary argument for the term, more people would understand and accept it without feeling like their cultures are being whitewashed or threatened. If we spoke English the way we speak Spanish, everything would be so redundantly gender specific so this makes sense.
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Pogo_Marimo
10/31/19 11:40:33 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
I see it as succumbing to humility. Like why bother doubling down on strawman tactics when you can just easily admit "yeah I was wrong and that makes sense...I don't care anymore I got better things to do than shitpost IRL."

Plus in this case, if like a gender neutral person of Hispanic descent wants to be called something different without being aggro about it, then fuck regardless of how dumb it sounds to you, it won't kill you inside to be considerate of that.
Who said anything about strawmanning? That's just as bad giving up on critical thinking.

You should always strive to thoroughly and vigorously test your beliefs and values against logic and rationality. Any idea held without being examined and inspected carefully is a tool born of ignorance at best.

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Jagr_68
10/31/19 11:55:16 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Jagr_68 posted...
I see it as succumbing to humility. Like why bother doubling down on strawman tactics when you can just easily admit "yeah I was wrong and that makes sense...I don't care anymore I got better things to do than shitpost IRL."

Plus in this case, if like a gender neutral person of Hispanic descent wants to be called something different without being aggro about it, then fuck regardless of how dumb it sounds to you, it won't kill you inside to be considerate of that.
Who said anything about strawmanning? That's just as bad giving up on critical thinking.

You should always strive to thoroughly and vigorously test your beliefs and values against logic and rationality. Any idea held without being examined and inspected carefully is a tool born of ignorance at best.


That's where I was going with my argument about culture and misappropriation of the letter x which is almost hardly used at all in Spanish but in the end, I could only stretch those reasons so far and they don't bare as much weight as the counterpoint for the term. If it's just a label for a select minority of people to identify with, then I guess I don't mind when everyone else will be latino/latina as usual.

darkphoenix181 posted...
1. Is your gf latinx?

2. Did she school you in bed?



1. Progressive liberal white girl
2. Only if I check my privilege
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Annihilated
10/31/19 12:09:35 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Thought it was a pretty stupid term from progressives to just add an x after latin but I have no right as a cisgender male even as partially Hispanic to say so.

Moral = if it doesn't matter or affect you in any way, don't waste your time


Isn't it nice when enlightened progressives co-opt something they don't understand so they can tell you what to think?
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darkphoenix181
10/31/19 12:14:51 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
1. Progressive liberal white girl


Wait, so a white girl goes off you a hispanic man about latinx?

I think you need to make her check her privilege.
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ASithLord7
10/31/19 12:38:29 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Jagr_68 posted...
Thought it was a pretty stupid term from progressives to just add an x after latin but I have no right as a cisgender male even as partially Hispanic to say so.

Moral = if it doesn't matter or affect you in any way, don't waste your time


Isn't it nice when enlightened progressives co-opt something they don't understand so they can tell you what to think?

The term was started by latinx people, shut up.
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Lost_All_Senses
10/31/19 12:40:37 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Jagr_68 posted...
as a cisgender male

always gets me


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dave_is_slick
10/31/19 12:42:04 PM
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Garioshi posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.

Theyre not that complicated

But they are unnecessary. English has almost no gendered words outside of pronouns, and it makes no sense. "They" works just as well as "he" or "she".

Not really.
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BeyondWalls
10/31/19 12:44:06 PM
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I'm glad that I have absolutely no idea what this thread is about.
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Gheb
10/31/19 12:47:40 PM
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Several Latino friends I have spoke to, most of whom, I would consider to be pretty progressive, hate the term "Latinx" because they think it just reeks of non-Latino people trying to Anglicize a language they don't fully appreciate or understand.

I also know a few who will say Latinx. So, it's probably not safe to say a diverse group of people have a singular stance on the issue.
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iPhone_7
10/31/19 12:55:37 PM
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Ask 30+ latinos/latinas if they identify as LatinX, especially ask the ones who are immigrants if they identify as that. The answer youll get is wtf is LatinX

Its like George Lopezs bit about being asked if he wants fountain drinks, just replace it with LatinX.
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Garioshi
10/31/19 12:58:28 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Garioshi posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.

Theyre not that complicated

But they are unnecessary. English has almost no gendered words outside of pronouns, and it makes no sense. "They" works just as well as "he" or "she".

Not really.

It absolutely does
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evil_zombie11
10/31/19 12:59:30 PM
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Why not push for this in Mexico too??
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BeantownHero
10/31/19 1:00:42 PM
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I feel like it's a generational/regional thing. a lot of younger people I've seen on the east coast have really taken up the idea. Maybe it doesnt have as much popularity in a texas or something. I'm just speculating

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Jagr_68
10/31/19 1:01:14 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Jagr_68 posted...
1. Progressive liberal white girl


Wait, so a white girl goes off you a hispanic man about latinx?

I think you need to make her check her privilege.


She obviously has no right either and I'll challenge her on shit like that but if a friend of hers I know is okay with being latinx, I can't not object to that notion either.
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iPhone_7
10/31/19 1:06:14 PM
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evil_zombie11 posted...
Why not push for this in Mexico too??

Because its the product of a few select Americans, the same kind that are into the 72+ genders crap. It was mainly being pushed through social media like tumblr and now its been spilling out.
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evil_zombie11
10/31/19 1:11:48 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Jagr_68 posted...
1. Progressive liberal white girl


Wait, so a white girl goes off you a hispanic man about latinx?

I think you need to make her check her privilege.


White girls talking about racism and the struggle of PoC's is the most annoying thing ever when they've never ever struggled themselves, and the hotter ones don't even understand what they're saying.

It's easy to sit in your privileged throne where everything was handed to you and whine. Savior complex is a hell of a thing.
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dave_is_slick
10/31/19 2:36:14 PM
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Garioshi posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Garioshi posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.

Theyre not that complicated

But they are unnecessary. English has almost no gendered words outside of pronouns, and it makes no sense. "They" works just as well as "he" or "she".

Not really.

It absolutely does

Maybe if you want language to be bland and stupidly formal.
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Garioshi
10/31/19 6:24:16 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Garioshi posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Garioshi posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Latinx only exists because Spanish is a gendered language, and gendered languages are fucking stupid. I support getting rid of all gendered words, even though most of them are just pronouns, because they're unnecessarily complicated.

Theyre not that complicated

But they are unnecessary. English has almost no gendered words outside of pronouns, and it makes no sense. "They" works just as well as "he" or "she".

Not really.

It absolutely does

Maybe if you want language to be bland and stupidly formal.

But it does
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