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REMercsChamp
10/26/19 4:18:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NEET/comments/dm3n1l/anyone_have_experience_joining_the_military_in/

Anyone have experience joining the military in the US at a late age? Is it a good idea to fix my NEETness?

I'm 28 who only worked 4 months total my whole life. Those 4 months obtained from an internship from school (dropped out) and a summer job with a family friend. Looking to change my life around and always thought about joining the military, but was always too afraid to commit.

Always thought about going job searching again, but the idea of being 28 with relatively no work experience was a turn off. I've gotten job referrals for place by my relatives, but turned it down because I was afraid the reaction from people on how a big of a lazy piece of shit I was. Shoot, I remember during training at a pizza place (got fired after 2nd day), a worker there looked at me different for not having a job before and I was 21 at the time. Imagine that reaction at 28?

I feel like the military will help turn my life around and get me to my destination within 1-2 years.

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DeadBankerDream
10/26/19 4:20:22 PM
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I mean, doesnt the military recruit children at college and high school?

I wouldnt really say its a good idea though, based on his general attitude. And he really doesnt sound like someone who could pass the requirements.

That said, this is one of the least absurd "just NEET things" I've ever read.
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Damn_Underscore
10/26/19 4:21:44 PM
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If he joined the military at some point a drill sergeant would yell at him "if you don't like it, you can leave!" and he would actually leave.
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gunplagirl
10/26/19 4:23:41 PM
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That's not a good goal to have in mind when enlisting in the military, my first thought was

Damn_Underscore posted...
If he joined the military at some point a drill sergeant would yell at him "if you don't like it, you can leave!" and he would actually leave.


This is probably what would happen. Also in the first week.
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EvenSpoonier
10/26/19 5:11:02 PM
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This is a fairly common thing among the more self-aware NEETs: they realize how broken they are as people, want someone to force "getting fixed" upon them, and see the military as the ideal solution: something you can't easily get out of, which gives you orders and generally makes things extremely unpleasant for you if you do not follow them.

I feel the pull myself, to be honest. I'm not a NEET, but I struggle with severe problems motivating myself to do basically anything. I somehow manage to stay employed, but it messes with my life in other ways. I generally look at NEETs with disgust, but I can't deny that I see a lot of appeal in the concept, and despite the scorn, I do find myself identifying with them in many ways (which isn't a very healthy combination, to be honest). So I understand the appeal of the service as a way to get fixed, because I feel it too, though I'm too old to enlist anyway. And yes, I am seeking help for this.

As I understand things, though, for those who do try the military, it seldom ends well. Many don't even make it as far as basic training: they fail the tests required just to get in, often on mental health grounds. Those who pass that hurdle often wash out of basic. Even many of the people who get through all this, it seems, often have discipline problems afterwards: some were indeed straightened out by the training, but not everyone, and so when things relax a little after basic, they revert. And for everyone who didn't make it through or who reverted after, this all winds up backfiring, because now not only didn't you get fixed, you've got a pretty major failure under your belt.

The military also really doesn't like being used this way. It's one of the reasons they oppose universal service. The usual quote is "we're not babysitters", and they make a good point. They have a good reputation for straightening people out, but they aren't designed for it, and that has consequences for people trying to use it for that.
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REMercsChamp
10/26/19 6:56:40 PM
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FvP
10/26/19 7:00:33 PM
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I don't even want to think about what you would have to do to get fired after 2 days.
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Zikten
10/26/19 7:05:14 PM
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I quit my last job after 3 days. this was back in july. but I might have a new job soon. maybe in the next couple weeks.
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REMercsChamp
10/26/19 7:07:00 PM
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FvP posted...
I don't even want to think about what you would have to do to get fired after 2 days.


Zikten posted...
I quit my last job after 3 days. this was back in july. but I might have a new job soon. maybe in the next couple weeks.
Maybe you can address the above question then - what are the circumstances that transpire to result in a termination of employment after 2-3 days?

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FvP
10/26/19 7:08:20 PM
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I'm more thinking along the lines of what a NEET would think is acceptable that's obviously not.
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Guide
10/26/19 7:08:34 PM
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It's worth a shot. Make sure your health is in order before you go, and be able to do at least 40 pushups.
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Zikten
10/26/19 7:09:48 PM
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well for me, I just hated it. I'm socially awkward and anxious and have aspergers. and the job was at walmart. I was expecting to just move things around the store for a remodel. but they hadn't started that yet and hired me early. and just put me out on the floor as a normal store clerk. and I had to help customers like every 15 minutes it seemed like. and for me, it was hell. I was panicking inside my head constantly. after the 3rd day, I just decided i was not going back.

job I am trying to get now is just to wash dishes in a kitchen. so it's all good I think. will be much nicer
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modena
10/26/19 7:10:51 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
That's not a good goal to have in mind when enlisting in the military, my first thought was

Damn_Underscore posted...
If he joined the military at some point a drill sergeant would yell at him "if you don't like it, you can leave!" and he would actually leave.


This is probably what would happen. Also in the first week.

Seen it happen 4 hours in,first morning at Ft Benning. Nature does have a way.
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REMercsChamp
10/26/19 7:12:29 PM
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FvP posted...
I'm more thinking along the lines of what a NEET would think is acceptable that's obviously not.
I' m guessing instead of working they sat around and ate pizza then stole some money from the register on the way out

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CanuckCowboy
10/26/19 7:15:10 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I mean, doesnt the military recruit children at college and high school?

I wouldnt really say its a good idea though, based on his general attitude. And he really doesnt sound like someone who could pass the requirements.

That said, this is one of the least absurd "just NEET things" I've ever read.


Does that still happen?

Ive read about the us military getting hs kids to sign up in advance and Im not even sure I believe it was ever real. Like I really hope its not. Thats just fucking horrific and predatory and exploitative.
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KingWhiteKnight
10/26/19 7:19:12 PM
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EvenSpoonier posted...
This is a fairly common thing among the more self-aware NEETs: they realize how broken they are as people, want someone to force "getting fixed" upon them, and see the military as the ideal solution: something you can't easily get out of, which gives you orders and generally makes things extremely unpleasant for you if you do not follow them.

I feel the pull myself, to be honest. I'm not a NEET, but I struggle with severe problems motivating myself to do basically anything. I somehow manage to stay employed, but it messes with my life in other ways. I generally look at NEETs with disgust, but I can't deny that I see a lot of appeal in the concept, and despite the scorn, I do find myself identifying with them in many ways (which isn't a very healthy combination, to be honest). So I understand the appeal of the service as a way to get fixed, because I feel it too, though I'm too old to enlist anyway. And yes, I am seeking help for this.

As I understand things, though, for those who do try the military, it seldom ends well. Many don't even make it as far as basic training: they fail the tests required just to get in, often on mental health grounds. Those who pass that hurdle often wash out of basic. Even many of the people who get through all this, it seems, often have discipline problems afterwards: some were indeed straightened out by the training, but not everyone, and so when things relax a little after basic, they revert. And for everyone who didn't make it through or who reverted after, this all winds up backfiring, because now not only didn't you get fixed, you've got a pretty major failure under your belt.

The military also really doesn't like being used this way. It's one of the reasons they oppose universal service. The usual quote is "we're not babysitters", and they make a good point. They have a good reputation for straightening people out, but they aren't designed for it, and that has consequences for people trying to use it for that.


This is true. I joined the military after making it through the screening process but failed in bootcamp mostly from a mental standpoint. Couldn't handle all the stress and just broke down. turns out putting people with confidence issues and years of not doing anything of value in military basic isn't a good idea.
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Fuparulez
10/26/19 7:30:41 PM
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Hilariously pathetic. I just capped off a 65 hour, $2,500 week.
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HiddenRoar
10/26/19 7:35:17 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
DeadBankerDream posted...
I mean, doesnt the military recruit children at college and high school?

I wouldnt really say its a good idea though, based on his general attitude. And he really doesnt sound like someone who could pass the requirements.

That said, this is one of the least absurd "just NEET things" I've ever read.


Does that still happen?

Ive read about the us military getting hs kids to sign up in advance and Im not even sure I believe it was ever real. Like I really hope its not. Thats just fucking horrific and predatory and exploitative.


By "Sign up in advance", you just get put into the recruitment system as a potential enlistee, and work with the recruiter on meeting the minimum PT requirements (forgot what the training is called), taking the ASVAB (if your school didn't already do so), and getting stuff like your SSN, Birth Cert., and (if you have) driver's license on file so that you don't need to wait for weeks after graduating HS. Nothing is finalized until you sign the forms (which I can't remember occurs before or after the oath) at MEPS.

No less predatory and exploitative than college admission recruiters coming to your school, especially to recruit for college athletics. (I would argue that the latter is actually worse)
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tremain07
10/26/19 7:44:05 PM
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People like this are going to die and nobody will really care, topics like this are only made by people who need someone to look down on while prompting themselves up for being normal, well adjusted, successful,ect and going off on tangents about how much they bleed, sweat and hurt for what they have now. The only thing missing is tying this to something political like 90 percent of these people are leftists or something.
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CanuckCowboy
10/26/19 7:48:39 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
DeadBankerDream posted...
I mean, doesnt the military recruit children at college and high school?

I wouldnt really say its a good idea though, based on his general attitude. And he really doesnt sound like someone who could pass the requirements.

That said, this is one of the least absurd "just NEET things" I've ever read.


Does that still happen?

Ive read about the us military getting hs kids to sign up in advance and Im not even sure I believe it was ever real. Like I really hope its not. Thats just fucking horrific and predatory and exploitative.


By "Sign up in advance", you just get put into the recruitment system as a potential enlistee, and work with the recruiter on meeting the minimum PT requirements (forgot what the training is called), taking the ASVAB (if your school didn't already do so), and getting stuff like your SSN, Birth Cert., and (if you have) driver's license on file so that you don't need to wait for weeks after graduating HS. Nothing is finalized until you sign the forms (which I can't remember occurs before or after the oath) at MEPS.

No less predatory and exploitative than college admission recruiters coming to your school, especially to recruit for college athletics. (I would argue that the latter is actually worse)


Oh so youre not actually binded to it or legally committed then. That being the case I take it back.
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masticatingman
10/26/19 8:27:04 PM
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If you can pass the physical and drug testing requirements, the army will definitely take you at age 28 Id imagine.
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MasterGakke
10/26/19 8:28:55 PM
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The Army will take you up to age 35 as long as you meet the physical requirements.
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EvenSpoonier
10/26/19 8:29:15 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Post #5... Spoony, is that you?

Not sure who you mean by "Spoony", but I've been using this name on GameFAQs and a couple other places for a long time, so I could be. Where are you thinking from?
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REMercsChamp
10/26/19 9:23:36 PM
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Conflict posted...
He wouldn't be able to answer that question because quitting =/= getting fired
You'd be surprised - the circumstances leading to job termination in such a short period of time might be the same regardless

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