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antfair 10/24/19 11:02:14 AM #1:	https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/voting-college-suppression.html This spring, the Texas Legislature outlawed polling places that did not stay open for the entire 12-day early-voting period. When the states elections take place in three weeks, those nine sites which logged many of the nearly 14,000 ballots that full-time students cast last year will be shuttered. So will six campus polling places at colleges in Fort Worth, two in Brownsville, on the Mexico border, and other polling places at schools statewide. It was a beautiful thing, a lot of people out there in those long lines, said Grant Loveless, a 20-year-old majoring in psychology and political science who voted last November at a campus in central Austin. It would hurt a lot of students if you take those polling places away. The story at Austin Community College is but one example of a political drama playing out nationwide: After decades of treating elections as an afterthought, college students have begun voting in force. Their turnout in the 2018 midterms 40.3 percent of 10 million students tracked by Tufts Universitys Institute for Democracy & Higher Education was more than double the rate in the 2014 midterms, easily exceeding an already robust increase in national turnout. Energized by issues like climate change and the Trump presidency, students have suddenly emerged as a potentially crucial voting bloc in the 2020 general election. And almost as suddenly, Republican politicians around the country are throwing up roadblocks between students and voting booths. Not coincidentally, the barriers are rising fastest in political battlegrounds and places like Texas where one-party control is eroding. Students overwhelmingly lean Democratic, with three in four supportive of impeaching President Trump, according to an Axios/College Reaction poll released this month. Some states have wrestled with voting eligibility for out-of-state students in the past. And the politicians enacting the roadblocks often say they are raising barriers to election fraud, not ballots. The threat to election integrity in Texas is real, and the need to provide additional safeguards is increasing, the states attorney general, Ken Paxton, said last year in announcing one of his offices periodic crackdowns on illegal voting. But evidence of widespread fraud is nonexistent, and the restrictions fit an increasingly unabashed pattern of Republican politicians efforts to discourage voters likely to oppose them. Efforts to deprive any American of a convenient way to vote will have a chilling effect on voting, Nancy Thomas, the director of the Tufts institute, said. And efforts to chill college students voting are despicable and very frustrating. The headline example is in New Hampshire. There, a Republican-backed law took effect this fall requiring newly registered voters who drive to establish domicile in the state by securing New Hampshire drivers licenses and auto registrations, which can cost hundreds of dollars annually. The dots are not hard to connect: According to the Tufts study, six in 10 New Hampshire college students come from outside the state, a rate among the nations highest. As early as 2011, the states Republican House speaker at the time, William OBrien, promised to clamp down on unrestricted voting by students, calling them kids voting liberal, voting their feelings, with no life experience. Floridas Republican secretary of state outlawed early-voting sites at state universities in 2014, only to see 60,000 voters cast on-campus ballots in 2018 after a federal court overturned the ban. This year, the State Legislature effectively reinstated it, slipping a clause into a new elections law that requires all early-voting sites to offer sufficient non-permitted parking an amenity in short supply on densely packed campuses. --- What is this, a fair for ants? <cite>antfair posted [p:929177393] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/voting-college-suppression.html <quote> This spring, the Texas Legislature outlawed polling places that did not stay open for the entire 12-day early-voting period. When the states elections take place in three weeks, those nine sites which logged many of the nearly 14,000 ballots that full-time students cast last year will be shuttered. So will six campus polling places at colleges in Fort Worth, two in Brownsville, on the Mexico border, and other polling places at schools statewide. It was a beautiful thing, a lot of people out there in those long lines, said Grant Loveless, a 20-year-old majoring in psychology and political science who voted last November at a campus in central Austin. It would hurt a lot of students if you take those polling places away. The story at Austin Community College is but one example of a political drama playing out nationwide: After decades of treating elections as an afterthought, college students have begun voting in force. Their turnout in the 2018 midterms 40.3 percent of 10 million students tracked by Tufts Universitys Institute for Democracy & Higher Education was more than double the rate in the 2014 midterms, easily exceeding an already robust increase in national turnout. Energized by issues like climate change and the Trump presidency, students have suddenly emerged as a potentially crucial voting bloc in the 2020 general election. And almost as suddenly, Republican politicians around the country are throwing up roadblocks between students and voting booths. Not coincidentally, the barriers are rising fastest in political battlegrounds and places like Texas where one-party control is eroding. Students overwhelmingly lean Democratic, with three in four supportive of impeaching President Trump, according to an Axios/College Reaction poll released this month. Some states have wrestled with voting eligibility for out-of-state students in the past. And the politicians enacting the roadblocks often say they are raising barriers to election fraud, not ballots. The threat to election integrity in Texas is real, and the need to provide additional safeguards is increasing, the states attorney general, Ken Paxton, said last year in announcing one of his offices periodic crackdowns on illegal voting. But evidence of widespread fraud is nonexistent, and the restrictions fit an increasingly unabashed pattern of Republican politicians efforts to discourage voters likely to oppose them. Efforts to deprive any American of a convenient way to vote will have a chilling effect on voting, Nancy Thomas, the director of the Tufts institute, said. And efforts to chill college students voting are despicable and very frustrating. The headline example is in New Hampshire. There, a Republican-backed law took effect this fall requiring newly registered voters who drive to establish domicile in the state by securing New Hampshire drivers licenses and auto registrations, which can cost hundreds of dollars annually. The dots are not hard to connect: According to the Tufts study, six in 10 New Hampshire college students come from outside the state, a rate among the nations highest. As early as 2011, the states Republican House speaker at the time, William OBrien, promised to clamp down on unrestricted voting by students, calling them kids voting liberal, voting their feelings, with no life experience. Floridas Republican secretary of state outlawed early-voting sites at state universities in 2014, only to see 60,000 voters cast on-campus ballots in 2018 after a federal court overturned the ban. This year, the State Legislature effectively reinstated it, slipping a clause into a new elections law that requires all early-voting sites to offer sufficient non-permitted parking an amenity in short supply on densely packed campuses. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 10/24/19 11:03:20 AM #2:	We need a bloody revolution. --- "Bond, you can't just blame everything bad in the world on the government" -wiiking96 "why cant I?" -Bond_543 <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:929177432] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>We need a bloody revolution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 10/24/19 11:07:58 AM #4:	Can't win on the issues, so just keep everyone from voting. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:929177601] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Can't win on the issues, so just keep everyone from voting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
antfair 10/24/19 11:10:50 AM #5:	North Carolina Republicans enacted a voter ID law last year that recognized student identification cards as valid but its requirements proved so cumbersome that major state universities were unable to comply. A later revision relaxed the rules, but much confusion remains, and fewer than half the states 180-plus accredited schools have sought to certify their IDs for voting. Wisconsin Republicans also have imposed tough restrictions on using student IDs for voting purposes. The state requires poll workers to check signatures only on student IDs, although some schools issuing modern IDs that serve as debit cards and dorm room keys have removed signatures, which they consider a security risk. The law also requires that IDs used for voting expire within two years, while most college ID cards have four-year expiration dates. And even students with acceptable IDs must show proof of enrollment before being allowed to vote. Universities have had to decide one by one whether they want to modify their IDs to make them acceptable, issue a second ID for voting purposes or do nothing, said Barry Burden, the director of the Elections Research Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. And theyve all gone in different directions. While legislators call the rules anti-fraud measures, Wisconsin has not recorded a case of intentional student voter fraud in memory, Mr. Burden said. But a healthy turnout of legitimate student voters could easily tip the political balance in many closely divided states. Senator Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, a Democrat, won election in 2016 by 1,017 votes over her Republican rival, Kelly Ayotte. Gov. Roy Cooper of North Carolina, a Democrat, won that year by about 10,000 votes in a state with nearly 500,000 undergraduates. And Donald J. Trump carried Wisconsin by fewer than 23,000 votes; the University of Wisconsin system alone enrolls more than 170,000 students. --- What is this, a fair for ants? <cite>antfair posted [p:929177704] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote><quote>North Carolina Republicans enacted a voter ID law last year that recognized student identification cards as valid but its requirements proved so cumbersome that major state universities were unable to comply. A later revision relaxed the rules, but much confusion remains, and fewer than half the states 180-plus accredited schools have sought to certify their IDs for voting. Wisconsin Republicans also have imposed tough restrictions on using student IDs for voting purposes. The state requires poll workers to check signatures only on student IDs, although some schools issuing modern IDs that serve as debit cards and dorm room keys have removed signatures, which they consider a security risk. The law also requires that IDs used for voting expire within two years, while most college ID cards have four-year expiration dates. And even students with acceptable IDs must show proof of enrollment before being allowed to vote. Universities have had to decide one by one whether they want to modify their IDs to make them acceptable, issue a second ID for voting purposes or do nothing, said Barry Burden, the director of the Elections Research Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. And theyve all gone in different directions. While legislators call the rules anti-fraud measures, Wisconsin has not recorded a case of intentional student voter fraud in memory, Mr. Burden said. But a healthy turnout of legitimate student voters could easily tip the political balance in many closely divided states. Senator Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, a Democrat, won election in 2016 by 1,017 votes over her Republican rival, Kelly Ayotte. Gov. Roy Cooper of North Carolina, a Democrat, won that year by about 10,000 votes in a state with nearly 500,000 undergraduates. And Donald J. Trump carried Wisconsin by fewer than 23,000 votes; the University of Wisconsin system alone enrolls more than 170,000 students.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 11:41:56 AM #6:	antfair posted... William OBrien, promised to clamp down on unrestricted voting by students, calling them kids voting liberal, voting their feelings, with no life experience. Sounds great, but that is because I believe voting age should be increased. And voter ID laws need to be much tighter. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929178844] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>antfair posted... </cite> <quote>William OBrien, promised to clamp down on unrestricted voting by students, calling them kids voting liberal, voting their feelings, with no life experience.</quote> Sounds great, but that is because I believe voting age should be increased. And voter ID laws need to be much tighter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/24/19 11:45:15 AM #7:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Sounds great, but that is because I believe voting age should be increased. And voter ID laws need to be much tighter. It's the only way y'all can win. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:929178956] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds great, but that is because I believe voting age should be increased. And voter ID laws need to be much tighter.</quote>It's the only way y'all can win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 11:48:11 AM #8:	CyricZ posted... It's the only way y'all can win. Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179073] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>It's the only way y'all can win.</quote> Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 10/24/19 11:51:08 AM #10:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... CyricZ posted... It's the only way y'all can win. Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. that's an entirely separate conversation from this one though. we're talking voter disenfranchisement, which is... wait for it... bad --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:929179191] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>It's the only way y'all can win.</quote> Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. </quote> that's an entirely separate conversation from this one though. we're talking voter disenfranchisement, which is... wait for it... bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/24/19 11:52:33 AM #11:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. Nothing to suggest that age equates to maturity. Citation: our current President. Would you be interested in setting a maximum age, as well? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:929179242] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation.</quote>Nothing to suggest that age equates to maturity. Citation: our current President. Would you be interested in setting a maximum age, as well? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 10/24/19 11:54:01 AM #12:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. if people voted based on maturity and experience there wouldn't have been a republican president since Eisenhower, be careful what you wish for --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:929179309] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation.</quote> if people voted based on maturity and experience there wouldn't have been a republican president since Eisenhower, be careful what you wish for </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 10/24/19 11:55:24 AM #13:	as opposed to republicans, voting on bias and racist feelings? jfc republicans. do better --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:929179371] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>as opposed to republicans, voting on bias and racist feelings? jfc republicans. do better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Celestial_Red 10/24/19 11:55:26 AM #14:	Of course, if these students leans Republican, none of that would be happening. --- https://imgur.com/3EWHw https://imgur.com/wLx6wFT https://imgur.com/cJbwI https://imgur.com/owErk https://imgur.com/5LrCWLH <cite>Celestial_Red posted [p:929179373] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Of course, if these students leans Republican, none of that would be happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/24/19 11:56:37 AM #15:	So... stay open the full twelve days. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:929179429] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>So... stay open the full twelve days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 11:58:46 AM #16:	CyricZ posted... Would you be interested in setting a maximum age, as well? Definitely. Old people need to stop voting. Probably 75? <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179522] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote> Would you be interested in setting a maximum age, as well?</quote> Definitely. Old people need to stop voting. Probably 75? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 10/24/19 11:59:58 AM #17:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... CyricZ posted... Would you be interested in setting a maximum age, as well? Definitely. Old people need to stop voting. Probably 75? another shitty take with no reason behind it --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:929179579] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote> Would you be interested in setting a maximum age, as well?</quote> Definitely. Old people need to stop voting. Probably 75? </quote> another shitty take with no reason behind it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 12:00:11 PM #18:	Questionmarktarius posted... So... stay open the full twelve days. Yeah. And you just know the same people in this topic would be complaining about the polls closing early meaning students are being disenfranchised hahahaha. Just can't win with some people who are really only looking for any opportunity to bash conservatives. Never mind that if the far left had its way you wouldn't be able to even speak if you were conservative, let alone get people to vote for you. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179588] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>So... stay open the full twelve days.</quote> Yeah. And you just know the same people in this topic would be complaining about the polls closing early meaning students are being disenfranchised hahahaha. Just can't win with some people who are really only looking for any opportunity to bash conservatives. Never mind that if the far left had its way you wouldn't be able to even speak if you were conservative, let alone get people to vote for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 12:00:39 PM #19:	spudger posted... another shitty take with no reason behind it Most climate change deniers are old people who believe Jesus won't allow the Earth to rot before he himself destroys it. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179607] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>spudger posted... </cite> <quote>another shitty take with no reason behind it</quote> Most climate change deniers are old people who believe Jesus won't allow the Earth to rot before he himself destroys it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 10/24/19 12:01:53 PM #20:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Questionmarktarius posted... So... stay open the full twelve days. Yeah. And you just know the same people in this topic would be complaining about the polls closing early meaning students are being disenfranchised hahahaha. Just can't win with some people who are really only looking for any opportunity to bash conservatives. Never mind that if the far left had its way you wouldn't be able to even speak if you were conservative, let alone get people to vote for you. The problem is the far left never gets its way whereas conservatives do constantly even when its against the law, even when its morally abhorrent, and they are hardly ever held accountable for it. --- "Bond, you can't just blame everything bad in the world on the government" -wiiking96 "why cant I?" -Bond_543 <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:929179661] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>So... stay open the full twelve days.</quote> Yeah. And you just know the same people in this topic would be complaining about the polls closing early meaning students are being disenfranchised hahahaha. Just can't win with some people who are really only looking for any opportunity to bash conservatives. Never mind that if the far left had its way you wouldn't be able to even speak if you were conservative, let alone get people to vote for you. </quote> The problem is the far left never gets its way whereas conservatives do constantly even when its against the law, even when its morally abhorrent, and they are hardly ever held accountable for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LRodC 10/24/19 12:03:05 PM #21:	Phantom_Nook posted... Can't win on the issues, so just keep everyone from voting. Didnt Trump win in 2016? <cite>LRodC posted [p:929179695] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Phantom_Nook posted... </cite> <quote>Can't win on the issues, so just keep everyone from voting.</quote>Didnt Trump win in 2016? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 10/24/19 12:03:17 PM #22:	Questionmarktarius posted... So... stay open the full twelve days. presumably they don't for funding reasons (likely the students have no use for them on some of those days) if funding is secured to stay open throughout, the legislature passes a new law that outlaws them based on some other arbitrary excuse that thinly veils the actual reason "we dont want these people to vote" Shablagoo posted... The problem is the far left never gets its way whereas conservatives do constantly even when its against the law, even when its morally abhorrent, and they are hardly ever held accountable for it. let's not pretend that what the troll is saying about the 'far left' is anything except a boogeyman argument with no evidence --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:929179704] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>So... stay open the full twelve days.</quote> presumably they don't for funding reasons (likely the students have no use for them on some of those days) if funding is secured to stay open throughout, the legislature passes a new law that outlaws them based on some other arbitrary excuse that thinly veils the actual reason "we dont want these people to vote" Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is the far left never gets its way whereas conservatives do constantly even when its against the law, even when its morally abhorrent, and they are hardly ever held accountable for it. </quote> let's not pretend that what the troll is saying about the 'far left' is anything except a boogeyman argument with no evidence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Celestial_Red 10/24/19 12:03:26 PM #23:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... antfair posted... William OBrien, promised to clamp down on unrestricted voting by students, calling them kids voting liberal, voting their feelings, with no life experience. Sounds great, but that is because I believe voting age should be increased. And voter ID laws need to be much tighter. If they're old enough to serve in the military, then they're old enough to vote. --- https://imgur.com/3EWHw https://imgur.com/wLx6wFT https://imgur.com/cJbwI https://imgur.com/owErk https://imgur.com/5LrCWLH <cite>Celestial_Red posted [p:929179711] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>antfair posted... </cite> <quote>William OBrien, promised to clamp down on unrestricted voting by students, calling them kids voting liberal, voting their feelings, with no life experience.</quote> Sounds great, but that is because I believe voting age should be increased. And voter ID laws need to be much tighter.</quote> If they're old enough to serve in the military, then they're old enough to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 12:04:19 PM #24:	Shablagoo posted... The problem is the far left never gets its way whereas conservatives do constantly even when its against the law, even when its morally abhorrent, and they are hardly ever held accountable for it. There's still an absurd amount of hypocrisy from the far leftists who believe in voter/speaker suppression complaining about voter/speaker suppression. Voter disenfranchisement at all is bad. Let's all agree on that, rather than just insinuating voter ID laws are disenfranchisement (which they're not) but ignoring far left speech/vote suppression whims. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179746] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>The problem is the far left never gets its way whereas conservatives do constantly even when its against the law, even when its morally abhorrent, and they are hardly ever held accountable for it.</quote> There's still an absurd amount of hypocrisy from the far leftists who believe in voter/speaker suppression complaining about voter/speaker suppression. Voter disenfranchisement at all is bad. Let's all agree on that, rather than just insinuating voter ID laws are disenfranchisement (which they're not) but ignoring far left speech/vote suppression whims. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/24/19 12:04:27 PM #25:	The GOP is a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad party --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:929179752] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>The GOP is a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad party</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/24/19 12:05:06 PM #26:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Never mind that if the far left had its way you wouldn't be able to even speak if you were conservative, let alone get people to vote for you. It's always nice to hear projection from conservatives about what they'd really do to their opponents if they had their druthers. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:929179788] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>Never mind that if the far left had its way you wouldn't be able to even speak if you were conservative, let alone get people to vote for you.</quote>It's always nice to hear projection from conservatives about what they'd really do to their opponents if they had their druthers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 10/24/19 12:05:08 PM #27:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... There's still an absurd amount of hypocrisy from the far leftists who believe in voter/speaker suppression complaining about voter/speaker suppression. zero 'far leftists' believe in voter suppression that's just a nazi thing CyricZ posted... It's always nice to hear projection from conservatives about what they'd really do to their opponents if they had their druthers. less that, more 'what they actually do to their opponents in the places they hold power' but yes it is definitely projection. --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:929179789] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>There's still an absurd amount of hypocrisy from the far leftists who believe in voter/speaker suppression complaining about voter/speaker suppression. </quote> zero 'far leftists' believe in voter suppression that's just a nazi thing CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>It's always nice to hear projection from conservatives about what they'd really do to their opponents if they had their druthers. </quote> less that, more 'what they actually do to their opponents in the places they hold power' but yes it is definitely projection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 12:05:18 PM #28:	Sackgurl posted... presumably they don't for funding reasons (likely the students have no use for them on some of those days) You just know everyone here would complain about voter disenfranchisement if those polling places were "open only half the number of days!!!!!" Sackgurl posted... if funding is secured to stay open throughout, the legislature passes a new law that outlaws them based on some other arbitrary excuse that thinly veils the actual reason "we dont want these people to vote" Voter ID laws are not arbitrary excuses. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179798] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Sackgurl posted... </cite> <quote>presumably they don't for funding reasons (likely the students have no use for them on some of those days)</quote> You just know everyone here would complain about voter disenfranchisement if those polling places were "open only half the number of days!!!!!" Sackgurl posted... </cite> <quote>if funding is secured to stay open throughout, the legislature passes a new law that outlaws them based on some other arbitrary excuse that thinly veils the actual reason "we dont want these people to vote"</quote> Voter ID laws are not arbitrary excuses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 12:05:41 PM #29:	Celestial_Red posted... If they're old enough to serve in the military, then they're old enough to vote. I don't believe anyone should be transcripted into the military so try again. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179820] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Celestial_Red posted... </cite> <quote>If they're old enough to serve in the military, then they're old enough to vote.</quote> I don't believe anyone should be transcripted into the military so try again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 10/24/19 12:05:52 PM #30:	Questionmarktarius posted... So... stay open the full twelve days. Are these public state schools? Something the GOP controlled state can control? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:929179831] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>So... stay open the full twelve days.</quote> Are these public state schools? Something the GOP controlled state can control?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/24/19 12:05:59 PM #31:	LRodC posted... Phantom_Nook posted... Can't win on the issues, so just keep everyone from voting. Didnt Trump win in 2016? There was a lot of voter suppression happening in 2016! --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:929179834] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote>Phantom_Nook posted... </cite> <quote>Can't win on the issues, so just keep everyone from voting.</quote>Didnt Trump win in 2016? </quote> There was a lot of voter suppression happening in 2016!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 12:06:24 PM #32:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... CyricZ posted... It's the only way y'all can win. Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. Otherwise we end up with Trump oh wait --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929179849] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>It's the only way y'all can win.</quote> Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. </quote> Otherwise we end up with Trump oh wait</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 12:06:27 PM #33:	CyricZ posted... It's always nice to hear projection from conservatives about what they'd really do to their opponents if they had their druthers. All I want is reasonable voter ID laws and a higher voting age, say 25 or 26 since that is when people tend to have matured more by. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929179853] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>It's always nice to hear projection from conservatives about what they'd really do to their opponents if they had their druthers.</quote> All I want is reasonable voter ID laws and a higher voting age, say 25 or 26 since that is when people tend to have matured more by. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 10/24/19 12:07:15 PM #34:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Voter ID laws are not arbitrary excuses. they absolutely are: they have arbitrary exceptions to forms of ID that poor people without vehicles would be able to access easily. Webmaster4531 posted... Are these public state schools? Something the GOP controlled state can control? almost certainly--that's where all my polling places have ever been! OnWingsOfMisery posted... You just know everyone here would complain about voter disenfranchisement if those polling places were "open only half the number of days!!!!!" you're projecting again, live in the real world please --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:929179885] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>Voter ID laws are not arbitrary excuses. </quote> they absolutely are: they have arbitrary exceptions to forms of ID that poor people without vehicles would be able to access easily. Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>Are these public state schools? Something the GOP controlled state can control? </quote> almost certainly--that's where all my polling places have ever been! OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>You just know everyone here would complain about voter disenfranchisement if those polling places were "open only half the number of days!!!!!" </quote> you're projecting again, live in the real world please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 12:07:37 PM #35:	Voting should be as open and convenient as possible --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929179909] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Voting should be as open and convenient as possible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 10/24/19 12:08:09 PM #37:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Voter ID laws are not arbitrary excuses. why do you think they need to be tightened? voter fraud is essentially nonexistent. at any rate, it's certainly not enough to sway any elections. voter disenfranchisement, however, is a very significant issue, and has swayed many elections --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:929179940] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>Voter ID laws are not arbitrary excuses. </quote> why do you think they need to be tightened? voter fraud is essentially nonexistent. at any rate, it's certainly not enough to sway any elections. voter disenfranchisement, however, is a very significant issue, and has swayed many elections</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/24/19 12:10:13 PM #38:	Y'all are responding to an 8 year old account with a month of karma. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:929180032] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Y'all are responding to an 8 year old account with a month of karma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Celestial_Red 10/24/19 12:14:11 PM #39:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Celestial_Red posted... If they're old enough to serve in the military, then they're old enough to vote. I don't believe anyone should be transcripted into the military so try again. Doesn't matter. 18 is the lowest age that you can join the military. Ergo, if you are able to fight and potentially die for your country, then you should be able to vote on said country's direction. It's literally one of the amendments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution --- https://imgur.com/3EWHw https://imgur.com/wLx6wFT https://imgur.com/cJbwI https://imgur.com/owErk https://imgur.com/5LrCWLH <cite>Celestial_Red posted [p:929180201] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>Celestial_Red posted... </cite> <quote>If they're old enough to serve in the military, then they're old enough to vote.</quote> I don't believe anyone should be transcripted into the military so try again. </quote> Doesn't matter. 18 is the lowest age that you can join the military. Ergo, if you are able to fight and potentially die for your country, then you should be able to vote on said country's direction. It's literally one of the amendments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/24/19 12:14:50 PM #40:	Sackgurl posted... they absolutely are: they have arbitrary exceptions to forms of ID that poor people without vehicles would be able to access easily. Making sure that the people voting are who they say they are is not an arbitrary excuse. Solving the problem of accessibility is the right call, not opposing voter ID laws. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929180229] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Sackgurl posted... </cite> <quote> they absolutely are: they have arbitrary exceptions to forms of ID that poor people without vehicles would be able to access easily.</quote> Making sure that the people voting are who they say they are is not an arbitrary excuse. Solving the problem of accessibility is the right call, not opposing voter ID laws. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Superlinkbro 10/24/19 12:16:36 PM #41:	People that are younger are way more willing to vote than much older people, which I find kind of funny. Obviously Republicans are doing this for a reason. --- PSN: Super_Link_Bro/Switch FC: SW-0496-6694-1794 Please let me know if you want to friend me beforehand. <cite>Superlinkbro posted [p:929180304] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>People that are younger are way more willing to vote than much older people, which I find kind of funny. Obviously Republicans are doing this for a reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/24/19 12:19:22 PM #42:	Superlinkbro posted... People that are younger are way more willing to vote than much older people, which I find kind of funny. That's the opposite of the truth, my dude --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:929180411] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Superlinkbro posted...</cite> <quote>People that are younger are way more willing to vote than much older people, which I find kind of funny.</quote> That's the opposite of the truth, my dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 10/24/19 12:21:30 PM #43:	Can the Republican party try to not be so terrible? Like seriously, if you have to keep trying to get people to not vote because they won't vote for you, then just maybe you should look to change yourself so you'd actually appeal to more people. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:929180499] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Can the Republican party try to not be so terrible? Like seriously, if you have to keep trying to get people to not vote because they won't vote for you, then just maybe you should look to change yourself so you'd actually appeal to more people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill2000 10/25/19 6:08:19 PM #44:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... CyricZ posted... It's the only way y'all can win. Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. Old enough to join the military, but not old enough to vote... EDIT: I see someone beat me to this point. --- CE's source of sage-ly advice Not changing this signature until the Buffalo Bills win the 2019 Super Bowl <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted [p:929238145] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote> CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote> It's the only way y'all can win. </quote> Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation.</quote> Old enough to join the military, but not old enough to vote... EDIT: I see someone beat me to this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 10/25/19 6:11:31 PM #45:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... CyricZ posted... It's the only way y'all can win. Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. Id prefer people to be more intelligent than mature when it comes to these things. Can we advocate for making a bachelors a requirement? How about a PhD or equivalent. Only the brightest should be able to vote. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:929238257] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>It's the only way y'all can win.</quote> Nothing wrong with common sense voter identification laws. And nothing wrong with wanting people to be more mature and experienced before they can influence the course of the nation. </quote> Id prefer people to be more intelligent than mature when it comes to these things. Can we advocate for making a bachelors a requirement? How about a PhD or equivalent. Only the brightest should be able to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/25/19 6:12:54 PM #46:	Zeeak4444 posted... Can we advocate for making a bachelors a requirement? We should not. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:929238308] in GOP workin... [t:78107894]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Can we advocate for making a bachelors a requirement?</quote> We should not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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