Current Events > USC students want John Wayne Exhibit removed, says he was a white supremacist

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Kastrada 10/10/19 5:15:07 PM #203:	Fun fact: John Ford made John Wayne cry while shooting a movie. Ford had already served in Europe during World War 2 and it obviously had a profound effect on him. He was getting frustrated during the shoot and called Wayne out for not being a true hero and serving in the war, instead only portraying heroes on film. He eventually had to apologize to Wayne because he hurt his feelings. Source: Five Came Back, great Netflix documentary series on film directors serving in World War 2 --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:928602444] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Fun fact: John Ford made John Wayne cry while shooting a movie. Ford had already served in Europe during World War 2 and it obviously had a profound effect on him. He was getting frustrated during the shoot and called Wayne out for not being a true hero and serving in the war, instead only portraying heroes on film. He eventually had to apologize to Wayne because he hurt his feelings. Source: Five Came Back, great Netflix documentary series on film directors serving in World War 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/10/19 5:18:07 PM #204:	Kastrada posted... Fun fact: John Ford made John Wayne cry while shooting a movie. Ford had already served in Europe during World War 2 and it obviously had a profound effect on him. He was getting frustrated during the shoot and called Wayne out for not being a true hero and serving in the war, instead only portraying heroes on film. He eventually had to apologize to Wayne because he hurt his feelings. Source: Five Came Back, great Netflix documentary series on film directors serving in World War 2 Obviously they need a John Ford exhibit. --- On the whole, I'd rather have a Marple Cinematic Universe. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:928602586] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted...</cite> <quote>Fun fact: John Ford made John Wayne cry while shooting a movie. Ford had already served in Europe during World War 2 and it obviously had a profound effect on him. He was getting frustrated during the shoot and called Wayne out for not being a true hero and serving in the war, instead only portraying heroes on film. He eventually had to apologize to Wayne because he hurt his feelings. Source: Five Came Back, great Netflix documentary series on film directors serving in World War 2 </quote> Obviously they need a John Ford exhibit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 10/10/19 5:20:47 PM #205:	Hey if we're saying that John Wayne's views should be hand waved as it being a product of his time in 1971, what's the usual suspects view on systemic racism and minorities still "needing" AA to level the playing field My parents had me on the young side and they were alive before 1971 and I'm only 10 years removed from college so thoughts pls --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:928602690] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Hey if we're saying that John Wayne's views should be hand waved as it being a product of his time in 1971, what's the usual suspects view on systemic racism and minorities still "needing" AA to level the playing field My parents had me on the young side and they were alive before 1971 and I'm only 10 years removed from college so thoughts pls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 10/10/19 5:25:56 PM #206:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Obviously they need a John Ford exhibit. Only if they make a statue of when he alledgedly punched John Wayne on set. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:928602890] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted... </cite> <quote>Obviously they need a John Ford exhibit.</quote> Only if they make a statue of when he alledgedly punched John Wayne on set. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 5:28:26 PM #207:	Friendly reminder that John Wayne was pissed at Ronald Reagan for not being conservative enough. https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/16/us/reagan-angered-john-wayne.html Reagan wanted to keep the Panama Canal. Wayne disagreed. Okay, this is a bad example. Damn. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928602976] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Friendly reminder that John Wayne was pissed at Ronald Reagan for not being conservative enough. https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/16/us/reagan-angered-john-wayne.html Reagan wanted to keep the Panama Canal. Wayne disagreed. Okay, this is a bad example. Damn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 10/10/19 5:30:46 PM #209:	The "product of their time" argument only makes sense if that person's views lined up with their era. By all accounts, Wayne was super racist even for his era --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:928603069] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>The "product of their time" argument only makes sense if that person's views lined up with their era. By all accounts, Wayne was super racist even for his era </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 5:32:45 PM #210:	DarkRoast posted... By all accounts, Wayne was super racist even for his era The full text the infamous 1971 Playboy interview is a few posts back. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928603139] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>By all accounts, Wayne was super racist even for his era</quote> The full text the infamous 1971 Playboy interview is a few posts back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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justaguy3492 10/10/19 5:39:36 PM #212:	Hairistotle posted... I have a question also. What's to lose by removing the exhibit? A public display of affection and admiration of an admitted white supremacist? lol --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:928603418] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>I have a question also. What's to lose by removing the exhibit?</quote> A public display of affection and admiration of an admitted white supremacist? lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/10/19 5:40:27 PM #213:	Hairistotle posted... I have a question also. What's to lose by removing the exhibit? Oh look at that it's the same answer as before. Lets change up the question a little bit. What do we GAIN by removing the exhibit? We begin sending a message that we're going to side with marginalized oppressed people over the guy who considers them to be subhuman. You can either have a community that is welcoming to all people or you can celebrate a guy who thinks slavery was a good thing. You can't have both. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:928603455] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted... </cite> <quote>I have a question also. What's to lose by removing the exhibit? Oh look at that it's the same answer as before.</quote> Lets change up the question a little bit. What do we GAIN by removing the exhibit? We begin sending a message that we're going to side with marginalized oppressed people over the guy who considers them to be subhuman. You can either have a community that is welcoming to all people or you can celebrate a guy who thinks slavery was a good thing. You can't have both. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 5:41:28 PM #214:	Tyranthraxus posted... What do we GAIN by removing the exhibit? A few thousand dollars, maybe, if the schools sell off whatever pieces it actually owns. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928603494] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>What do we GAIN by removing the exhibit? </quote> A few thousand dollars, maybe, if the schools sell off whatever pieces it actually owns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 10/10/19 5:49:09 PM #216:	Conservatives: Businesses should be allowed to choose what views they do/don't endorse! Also Conservatives: They shouldn't be allowed to remove a statue just because they didn't agree with the guy! --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:928603796] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives: Businesses should be allowed to choose what views they do/don't endorse! Also Conservatives: They shouldn't be allowed to remove a statue just because they didn't agree with the guy! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 10/10/19 5:50:14 PM #218:	fenderbender321 posted... John Wayne's views on racial issues are only like .000001% of who he is. Being a murderous cannibal is only 0.00001% of Big Lurch's personality --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:928603843] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted... </cite> <quote>John Wayne's views on racial issues are only like .000001% of who he is.</quote> Being a murderous cannibal is only 0.00001% of Big Lurch's personality </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 5:50:53 PM #219:	DarkRoast posted... Also Conservatives: They shouldn't be allowed to remove a statue just because they didn't agree with the guy! Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928603872] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Also Conservatives: They shouldn't be allowed to remove a statue just because they didn't agree with the guy!</quote> Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 10/10/19 5:53:00 PM #220:	Questionmarktarius posted... Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much. Something tells me that refusing to endorse a celebrity won't exactly run afoul of the legal system --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:928603963] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much.</quote> Something tells me that refusing to endorse a celebrity won't exactly run afoul of the legal system </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/10/19 5:53:11 PM #221:	the reason ford/wayne films were often good was because of Ford --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928603971] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>the reason ford/wayne films were often good was because of Ford </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 10/10/19 5:54:03 PM #222:	DarkRoast posted... Being a murderous cannibal is only 0.00001% of Big Lurch's personality Hey that wasn't his fault! It was the PCP that made him do that! >_> --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:928604011] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>Being a murderous cannibal is only 0.00001% of Big Lurch's personality</quote> Hey that wasn't his fault! It was the PCP that made him do that! >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 10/10/19 6:04:51 PM #223:	Questionmarktarius posted... Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much. I admittedly don't research at all how money flows in universities, but USC is a private school --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:928604395] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much.</quote> I admittedly don't research at all how money flows in universities, but USC is a private school</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 6:06:07 PM #224:	MacadamianNut3 posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much. I admittedly don't research at all how money flows in universities, but USC is a private school Then they can do whatever the hell they want with it. ...at least, the bits that aren't on-loan from someone else. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928604427] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Publicly-owned installations are subject to free speech legal process, or something. Some bigot baker isn't, much.</quote> I admittedly don't research at all how money flows in universities, but USC is a private school</quote> Then they can do whatever the hell they want with it. ...at least, the bits that aren't on-loan from someone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 10/10/19 6:13:25 PM #225:	fenderbender321 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Fenderbender defending white supremacists. Must be a day that ends with "y" Where did you see that I defended John Wayne's beliefs? Please quote the post where I did that. Thanks. Right here..... fenderbender321 posted... John Wayne's views on racial issues are only like .000001% of who he is. --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:928604686] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote>Fenderbender defending white supremacists. Must be a day that ends with "y"</quote> Where did you see that I defended John Wayne's beliefs? Please quote the post where I did that. Thanks.</quote> Right here..... fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>John Wayne's views on racial issues are only like .000001% of who he is.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 10/10/19 6:23:54 PM #227:	"straight up racist that sucker was, simple and plain. mothafuck him and John Wayne!" --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:928605071] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>"straight up racist that sucker was, simple and plain. mothafuck him and John Wayne!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 10/10/19 6:42:47 PM #229:	fenderbender321 posted... John Wayne's views on racial issues are only like .000001% of who he is. What would someone have to do for you to say it makes sense to remove their statue? --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er <cite>emblem boy posted [p:928605709] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>John Wayne's views on racial issues are only like .000001% of who he is.</quote> What would someone have to do for you to say it makes sense to remove their statue?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/10/19 8:46:54 PM #230:	shockthemonkey posted... Unfortunate lyric because Elvis wasnt like John Wayne at all in terms of racism. At least from what Ive read. Chuck D says he regrets the elvis part --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928610431] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Unfortunate lyric because Elvis wasnt like John Wayne at all in terms of racism. At least from what Ive read.</quote> Chuck D says he regrets the elvis part </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 10/10/19 8:48:24 PM #231:	I wonder if people will be defending Mel Gibson statues in 40 years. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:928610493] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if people will be defending Mel Gibson statues in 40 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SapphireClassic 10/10/19 9:12:45 PM #232:	White people! <cite>SapphireClassic posted [p:928611468] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>White people!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
amzpeng 10/10/19 9:15:17 PM #233:	MacadamianNut3 posted... PleaseClap posted... John Wayne: I believe in White supremacy CE: Yeah but was he really racist? But 1971 was forever ago I don't know anyone from that time who is still alive and not in a nursing home or dead please please please you being ironic here --- Do equals 11 <cite>amzpeng posted [p:928611567] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>John Wayne: I believe in White supremacy CE: Yeah but was he really racist?</quote> But 1971 was forever ago I don't know anyone from that time who is still alive and not in a nursing home or dead</quote> please please please you being ironic here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gafemage 10/10/19 10:14:30 PM #235:	amzpeng posted... MacadamianNut3 posted... PleaseClap posted... John Wayne: I believe in White supremacy CE: Yeah but was he really racist? But 1971 was forever ago I don't know anyone from that time who is still alive and not in a nursing home or dead please please please you being ironic here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAkJjPcofck" data-time=" --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk #ShameGimmickAccounts2k20 <cite>Gafemage posted [p:928613957] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>amzpeng posted...</cite> <quote>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>John Wayne: I believe in White supremacy CE: Yeah but was he really racist?</quote> But 1971 was forever ago I don't know anyone from that time who is still alive and not in a nursing home or dead</quote> please please please you being ironic here</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAkJjPcofck" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JoeDangIt 10/10/19 10:31:22 PM #236:	I don't think we should have statues of people in the first place. <cite>JoeDangIt posted [p:928614599] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>I don't think we should have statues of people in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
warnerbroman 10/10/19 10:34:16 PM #237:	shockthemonkey posted... Sounds like the endgame is to get an exhibit of a known racist removed there's a lot of those --- 1478 4237 6903 Xavier Flying....you can't stop staring can you? <cite>warnerbroman posted [p:928614719] in USC studen... [t:78076871]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like the endgame is to get an exhibit of a known racist removed</quote> there's a lot of those</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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