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Lebronwon
10/03/19 3:37:51 PM
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https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/crime/teenager-shot-killed-atlanta/289-650a0eff-98a4-407f-af4d-be913126c41d

A recent high school graduate's life was cut short after stray bullets went through her window and killed her. It happened off River Ridge Drive SW shortly after 5:30 a.m. on Thursday. The family identified the victim as 18-year-old as Jessica Daniels. Authorities believe there were at least two shooters who were shooting at each other when one of the bullets came through Daniels' window and killed her. Police are still trying to find out what type of gun was used to shoot this young woman in the chest. At least three people were in the house at the time of the shooting: The victim, her mother, and grandmother. Police are still searching for the people responsible for taking this young woman's life. Neighbors said they heard the shooting going on in the street, but did not see who pulled the trigger. At this time, authorities don't believe she was targeted. Her family told 11Alive's Neima Abdulahi that Daniels was scheduled to have a job interview on the morning of her death. "18-year-old, on her way to college, today she's supposed to be going for a job interview, she did not make it, by a stray bullet, please, someone please help us." Daniels' aunt said through tears.

Daniels also was not the only young person inadvertently shot in the metro Wednesday: A 4-year-old girl was struck by a stray bullet inside her DeKalb County bedroom, as well. Police said that girl was hit in the foot, and may need the foot amputated. 11Alive's Neima Abdulahi reported neighbors heard two men were shooting at each other outside of the apartment. A witness on the scene said that he heard at least four or five shots from what sounded like a semi-automatic weapon. The incidents happened only about 10 miles apart.

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Questionmarktarius
10/03/19 3:40:22 PM
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That sucks, but I don't see the point of posting it here, other than CE bait.
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Rika_Furude
10/03/19 3:42:05 PM
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So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?
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Zikten
10/03/19 3:42:08 PM
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it shows how irresponsible gangsters are. something similar happened in Seattle once. a guy was driving his family and a bullet hit the car and killed him. people who have running gun fights in cities are assholes
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Puglia77
10/03/19 3:42:16 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
That sucks, but I don't see the point of posting it here, other than CE bait.

Is it not a Current Event
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AsucaHayashi
10/03/19 3:43:16 PM
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Lebronwon
10/03/19 3:45:06 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
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You don't have permission to access "http://www.wwltv.com/article/news/crime/teenager-shot-killed-atlanta on this server.


This is the link in OP...

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/crime/teenager-shot-killed-atlanta/289-650a0eff-98a4-407f-af4d-be913126c41d
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Questionmarktarius
10/03/19 3:46:09 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?

...and here we go.

I'd almost guarantee that the idiots shooting at eachother would have been flagged by NICS.
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FreezerDoor
10/03/19 3:47:18 PM
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This is why I would be afraid to live on the first floor of a building. This stuff happens quite often.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/03/19 3:49:55 PM
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Zikten posted...
it shows how irresponsible gangsters are. something similar happened in Seattle once. a guy was driving his family and a bullet hit the car and killed him. people who have running gun fights in cities are assholes

Here is a local story giving the same vibes.

https://www.wral.com/family-fayetteville-woman-a-mother-before-anything-died-protecting-her-children/18670144/
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Lebronwon
10/04/19 11:08:58 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
That sucks, but I don't see the point of posting it here, other than CE bait.


It current events
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DeadBankerDream
10/04/19 11:10:41 AM
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Seems fairly irrelevant that she was having a job interview.
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DevsBro
10/04/19 11:39:46 AM
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Yeesh, will be moving all beds away from windows.

DeadBankerDream posted...
Seems fairly irrelevant that she was having a job interview.

Yeah, I found that weird too. Maybe it's a Skittles defense?

I get why the aunt said it, flustered and perhaps using it as an example that she still had life left to live, etc, but I don't get why it's in the topic title lol.
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The Admiral
10/04/19 11:42:36 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?


Because there is a 99% chance the shooters were thugs using illegally obtained guns.
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karlpilkington4
10/04/19 11:42:59 AM
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Did they mention what kind of gun it was? Was it a pistol or was it a weapon of war?
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DevsBro
10/04/19 11:51:22 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?


Because there is a 99% chance the shooters were thugs using illegally obtained guns.

When? Because!
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Questionmarktarius
10/04/19 12:31:23 PM
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DevsBro posted...
When? Because!

whut
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Rika_Furude
10/04/19 8:17:53 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?


Because there is a 99% chance the shooters were thugs using illegally obtained guns.

Why would they need to get the gun illegally when they can just walk into wallmart and buy it off the shelf?
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HotStuffB_0x_xy
10/04/19 8:18:52 PM
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Why was the job interview brought up?
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SH_expert44
10/04/19 8:20:04 PM
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Sounds like gang violence gong wrong. So fucking stupid
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spudger
10/04/19 8:21:49 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?


Because there is a 99% chance the shooters were thugs using illegally obtained guns.

post your source please
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J03can
10/05/19 12:13:35 AM
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The only answer to this is to ban vaping
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Tyranthraxus
10/05/19 12:18:07 AM
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This isn't very far from my house.

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AFrench2
10/05/19 12:19:06 AM
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Wow that's tragic
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tainted_emerald
10/05/19 1:00:57 AM
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AssultTank posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
The Admiral posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?


Because there is a 99% chance the shooters were thugs using illegally obtained guns.

Why would they need to get the gun illegally when they can just walk into wallmart and buy it off the shelf?

Gang shootings are usually carried out with illegally obtained guns because they can't be easily traced back to the shooter. Further, they are usually pistols as those are easier to steal and conceal.

Based on the area and how it happened, it was most likely a gang shooting, so logically it is most likely an illegally obtained pistol.

That illegal pistol was once a legal pistol. And it would have been a lot harder to obtain had pistols been completely outlawed for civilian use in the US a couple decades ago.

Point being, the problem with guns in the US is that they're too easy to obtain just because of how much they've proliferated our country. Even if we completely ban guns tomorrow, it'll still be a problem for decades to come.

And since we'll never completely ban the manufacturing and sale of civilian weapons, this problem will never go away.
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ModLogic
10/06/19 6:30:55 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
So when is america going to get off their ass, implement some actual gun restrictions, and start preventing these easily preventable deaths?
that would mean admitting they are wrong. and america DOES not ever admit they were wrong. W=R is American government motto.

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Offworlder1
10/06/19 6:51:23 PM
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@Rika_Furude

Gangs never have and never will give a shit about the laws, banning guns only helps gangs, and other criminals to have a huge advantage over honest citizens.
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ModLogic
10/06/19 6:55:29 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
@Rika_Furude

Gangs never have and never will give a shit about the laws, banning guns only helps gangs, and other criminals to have a huge advantage over honest citizens.
druggies dont give a shit about the laws either. why not ensure kids learn about safe drug use. legalize cocain and make sure every kid has access to clean pure drugs at school cafeterias? the whole criminals dont care about laws is a dumb as shit argument.

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Offworlder1
10/06/19 7:00:27 PM
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My point is the answer is not to disarm regular people which is what that person always claims is "the best solution".

The guns are like drugs comparison does not work either, guns are a amendment right and people have forms to fill out, most gun owners are responsible people who never hurt anyone.

No one has a legal right to do or sell illegal drugs.

Guns are used by normal people to defend themselves against criminals and gangs who also have guns.
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Rika_Furude
10/06/19 7:24:41 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
@Rika_Furude

Gangs never have and never will give a shit about the laws, banning guns only helps gangs, and other criminals to have a huge advantage over honest citizens.

Thats not the case in any country thats actually put gun restrictions in place. After a while guns will become scarce enough they will be rare even in crime ala australia
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Antifar
10/06/19 7:27:03 PM
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If it wasn't a stray bullet, it would have been a stray knife
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Questionmarktarius
10/06/19 7:54:31 PM
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Antifar posted...
If it wasn't a stray bullet, it would have been a stray knife

If someone can figure out how to do a drive-by knifing, the first instance should be allowed to get away with it.
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awesome999
10/06/19 7:57:23 PM
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RIP

I hope they get imprisoned for life one caught
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dib153
10/06/19 7:57:59 PM
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Ill be the first to admit....its weird seeing this topic and not having full throttle asking us if shes hot or not

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awesome999
10/06/19 10:04:29 PM
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AssultTank posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
@Rika_Furude

Gangs never have and never will give a shit about the laws, banning guns only helps gangs, and other criminals to have a huge advantage over honest citizens.

Thats not the case in any country thats actually put gun restrictions in place. After a while guns will become scarce enough they will be rare even in crime ala australia

And yet Australia has more guns now than they ever had before...

And yet you don't hear these kinds of news about Australia
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awesome999
10/06/19 10:10:14 PM
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AssultTank posted...
awesome999 posted...
AssultTank posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
@Rika_Furude

Gangs never have and never will give a shit about the laws, banning guns only helps gangs, and other criminals to have a huge advantage over honest citizens.

Thats not the case in any country thats actually put gun restrictions in place. After a while guns will become scarce enough they will be rare even in crime ala australia

And yet Australia has more guns now than they ever had before...

And yet you don't hear these kinds of news about Australia

Exactly my point...

Did I just get r/wooosh-ed?
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Rika_Furude
10/06/19 11:06:06 PM
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AssultTank posted...
awesome999 posted...
AssultTank posted...
awesome999 posted...
AssultTank posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
@Rika_Furude

Gangs never have and never will give a shit about the laws, banning guns only helps gangs, and other criminals to have a huge advantage over honest citizens.

Thats not the case in any country thats actually put gun restrictions in place. After a while guns will become scarce enough they will be rare even in crime ala australia

And yet Australia has more guns now than they ever had before...

And yet you don't hear these kinds of news about Australia

Exactly my point...

Did I just get r/wooosh-ed?

A little bit.

My whole point was that guns are not the cause. They are merely a convenient scapegoat.

Its about ease of access to guns. You can say theres more guns in australia now than ever before, but theres still adequate restrictions to get them and you cant just buy them off the shelf. Little timmy isnt able to walk into dads room and pull his assault rifle off the shelf to go shoot up the local school
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Tyranthraxus
10/06/19 11:41:30 PM
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AssultTank posted...
Guns are no easier to buy legally than they were 20 years ago... So what changed?


Actually yeah they are since the Clinton era bans expired. You know. The ones that everyone* said had no effect but actually had a huge effect

https://www.newsweek.com/assault-weapons-ban-1994-gun-rights-1461951

*Just gun enthusiasts, actually

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Pepys Monster
10/06/19 11:45:54 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
If it wasn't a stray bullet, it would have been a stray knife

If someone can figure out how to do a drive-by knifing, the first instance should be allowed to get away with it.

Russia has ballistic knives.
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Tyranthraxus
10/07/19 1:15:08 AM
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AssultTank posted...
. If you have a link to the study itself


Here's the official publication but I'm not sure how to access the raw study data itself.

https://law.stanford.edu/publications/that-assault-weapon-ban-it-really-did-work/

A less opinionated take on the publication is here

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/opinion/assault-weapon-ban.html

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Tyranthraxus
10/07/19 1:31:23 AM
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AssultTank posted...
Further, the whole thing ignores that pistols account for most gun deaths,
Why the fuck would a study about the Clinton era assault weapons ban try to account for weapons not covered by the ban?

"Well according to the data the Clinton bans had zero impact on stabbing. Maybe even gone up slightly. Totally useless."

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Tyranthraxus
10/07/19 1:35:07 AM
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AssultTank posted...
Because it uses the same mass shooting definition that most gun control advocates use, where most of those are done using pistols... <_<
I mean that sounds like an argument in favor of an even more comprehensive and restrictive ban.

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