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Duncanwii
09/24/19 5:41:11 PM
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Hes acts like some of the trolls on here its frustrating. And he's 59 too.
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sylverlolol
09/24/19 5:42:23 PM
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call him bae
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ZMythos
09/24/19 5:42:38 PM
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Tell him it's okay to be wrong and admit he made a mistake. Many people did believe that supporting him was the right choice. Since you're his kid, you can potentially open his eyes to the truth without shaming him.

And if that doesn't work then hold it over his head cuz fuck it
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whitelytning
09/24/19 5:42:46 PM
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"Dad Trumps" looks like a phrase reddit would use to describe a group of people.

(not attacking for the grammar mistake, it just read funny to me)
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UnholyMudcrab
09/24/19 5:43:12 PM
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You can't. It's pointless to argue with set-in-stone Trump supporters.
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konokonohamaru
09/24/19 5:44:21 PM
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Dad Trump crimes are real;
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tiornys
09/24/19 5:57:47 PM
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It's hard to change opinions in general, and these opinions are likely to be very difficult to shift. That said, here's a vid that gives an overview of some techniques that actually have a chance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbAnHHyr4JA" data-time="
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friendbuddypal
09/24/19 6:00:02 PM
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You should have cut ties with the Trump supporters in your life years ago.

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Duncanwii
09/24/19 6:01:11 PM
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friendbuddypal posted...
You should have cut ties with the Trump supporters in your life years ago.

I cant exactly do that and if you knew me youd know why.
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creativerealms
09/24/19 6:03:35 PM
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Wait a couple years. When Trump is out of office he will be seen as a RINO and people will believe his crimes then.

Duncanwii posted...
friendbuddypal posted...
You should have cut ties with the Trump supporters in your life years ago.


I'm probably in a similar situation.
I cant exactly do that and if you knew me youd know why.

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Kavatar
09/24/19 6:26:11 PM
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You can't. He's too far gone at that point. He can now call anything he doesn't agree with "fake news", and even if part of him actually believes any of the news, he can't actually admit it's true because he doesn't want to admit being wrong.
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marthsheretoo
09/24/19 6:27:17 PM
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Can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into.
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Kombucha
09/24/19 6:29:45 PM
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Just wait for the government to do it for you.

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RickyTheBAWSE
09/24/19 6:29:49 PM
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he was who he was before you became who you are. parents should always want their offspring to be better than them, so take the opportunity.

marthsheretoo posted...
Can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into.

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_Rinku_
09/24/19 6:30:01 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
You can't. It's pointless to argue with set-in-stone Trump supporters.

This, unfortunately. People who are deeply set in their beliefs (not just Trump supporters, but anyone) experience actual pain like an injury to their brains when presented with evidence that runs counter to their beliefs. This causes them to double down, no matter how illogical, as a defense mechanism.

In a few years, these people will pretend they never supported Trump or just mumble and change the subject.
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hockeybub89
09/24/19 6:30:57 PM
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SoIidLegacy
09/24/19 6:49:37 PM
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In my experience pretty much every man in his late 50s is too stubborn and stuck in his ways for his mind to be changed about anything. I'm guessing it's because they aged believing that changing your opinion makes you look weak.

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DD Divine
09/24/19 7:29:32 PM
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You cant. From experience with W and now trump and every lie my father believed about Obama you cant change their mind

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Duncanwii
09/25/19 5:02:14 PM
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He thinks the Ukraine thing is a lie.
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DezDroppedFreak
09/25/19 5:02:54 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
He thinks the Ukraine thing is a lie.
I mean you can show him the transcript released straight from the White House where he clearly asked for the investigation

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Questionmarktarius
09/25/19 5:03:56 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Duncanwii posted...
He thinks the Ukraine thing is a lie.
I mean you can show him the transcript released straight from the White House where he clearly asked for the investigation

Unethical, but not illegal unless there's a quid-pro-quo.
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DezDroppedFreak
09/25/19 5:06:08 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Unethical, but not illegal unless there's a quid-pro-quo.
The current argument for impeachment is a quid pro quo doesnt necessarily have to be flat out mentioned.

He did frame the conversation like it was an owed favor though. Personally, based on this alone, he may get impeached, but I dont see a situation where the senate doesnt acquit him

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