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antfair
09/19/19 6:58:31 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ukraine-joe-biden-military-aid-zelensky-kiev-a9111106.html


Ukraines new president Volodymyr Zelensky was fulsome in expressing his gratitude to Donald Trump for the military aid package.

The former professional comedian insisted his relationship with the former reality TV star was very good and that he was sure we will have a meeting in the White House.

But the $250m (280m) of arms for Ukrainian forces, which are confronting Russian backed separatists, has been enmeshed in a bitter battle between the US president and his opponents over accusations that he has tried to manipulate it for underhand political reasons.

The Trump administration had in fact suspended the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, only agreeing to unblock it after rising bipartisan clamour from congress.

The ostensible reason for the hold-up was to ensure that it tallied with US interests.

The real reason, claim critics, was to pressure the Ukrainian government to target Joe Biden the possible Democrat candidate for next years election through an investigation into corruption allegations against his son.
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But there have been claims that Mr Trump had refused to meet Mr Zelensky after his election this year, and that US officials have warned this would continue to be the case unless the Ukrainian authorities reopened the Burisma files.

The house committees chairs say they will scrutinise a telephone call between the US president and Mr Zelensky on 25 July, during which Mr Trump allegedly told the Ukrainian president to reopen the Biden investigation if he wanted to improve relations with the US.

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Phantom_Nook
09/19/19 7:00:09 PM
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Sounds very legal and very cool.
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Antifar
09/19/19 9:28:00 PM
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Bump
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Doom_Art
09/19/19 9:29:01 PM
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Yeah I don't like Biden but this is shady as hell

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IllegalAlien
09/19/19 9:29:29 PM
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in case anyone missed it...

we're only finding out about this due to a string of leaks about an obstructed whistleblower complaint. Now these traitors are trying to cover their tracks while still obstructing justice as hard as they possibly can.
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Unknown381
09/19/19 9:29:43 PM
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We have a lot of traitors among the Republican Party but I guess America is cool with that as long they're white Republicans cause something about them being above the law and stuff while anyone who aren't Republicans has to be hold accountable for it or something like that.
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ktownslayer16
09/19/19 9:31:29 PM
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Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol
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IllegalAlien
09/19/19 9:32:21 PM
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ktownslayer16 posted...
Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol

source?
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Antifar
09/19/19 9:32:37 PM
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IllegalAlien posted...
ktownslayer16 posted...
Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol

source?


https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1174858440705040384
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ktownslayer16
09/19/19 9:34:11 PM
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IllegalAlien posted...
ktownslayer16 posted...
Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol

source?


The internet. It's literally everywhere right now dude. Giuliani fucked up
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Unknown381
09/19/19 9:34:48 PM
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Antifar posted...
IllegalAlien posted...
ktownslayer16 posted...
Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol

source?


https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1174858440705040384

Jesus, I'm still surprise Trump keeps him around, Rudy just can't help himself but blurt out answers that Trump doesn't want anyone to know about.
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IllegalAlien
09/19/19 9:36:26 PM
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Antifar posted...
IllegalAlien posted...
ktownslayer16 posted...
Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol

source?


https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1174858440705040384

hollllly shit lmao
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Evening_Dragon
09/19/19 9:39:21 PM
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Can't uncorrupt the trump
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Doom_Art
09/19/19 9:40:13 PM
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Waaaaait a minute

Is this what that whistleblower was planning to talk about??


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IllegalAlien
09/19/19 9:42:23 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Waaaaait a minute

Is this what that whistleblower was planning to talk about??


it's been confirmed that the whistleblower complaint was about Ukraine from the same anon sources. Also reddit pretty much exactly figured this out maybe 6 hours ago
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Doom_Art
09/19/19 9:43:10 PM
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Holy shit

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Agnostic420
09/19/19 9:43:12 PM
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Joe Bidens meltdown was amazing.
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slimfizzle4
09/19/19 9:43:35 PM
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IllegalAlien posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Waaaaait a minute

Is this what that whistleblower was planning to talk about??


it's been confirmed that the whistleblower complaint was about Ukraine from the same anon sources. Also reddit pretty much exactly figured this out maybe 6 hours ago

Yeah I read that thread.

*sighs*
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Bio1590
09/19/19 9:51:52 PM
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The complaint's only over this Ukraine business that we've known about for awhile?

Kinda disappointing imo.
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IllegalAlien
09/19/19 9:55:34 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
The complaint's only over this Ukraine business that we've known about for awhile?

Kinda disappointing imo.

we knew they were doing shit in Ukraine since Guiliani went there + we speculated it was about Biden.

Now, all credible news outlets are reporting facts regarding this, as opposed to conjecture. it's a big deal
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CADE FOSTER
09/19/19 9:57:07 PM
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Unknown381 posted...
We have a lot of traitors among the Republican Party but I guess America is cool with that as long they're white Republicans cause something about them being above the law and stuff while anyone who aren't Republicans has to be hold accountable for it or something like that.

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slimfizzle4
09/19/19 10:04:41 PM
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IllegalAlien posted...
it's a big deal

No sadly it's not. With the turtle and girls name on his defensive line shit don't mean shit
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IllegalAlien
09/19/19 10:09:57 PM
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slimfizzle4 posted...
IllegalAlien posted...
it's a big deal

No sadly it's not. With the turtle and girls name on his defensive line shit don't mean shit

yeah the checks and balances seems to be pretty broken, but at the same time evidently Fox news didn't even report on this story until Trump tweeted then they reported that he denied the accusations...

what I'm getting at is that a large segment of voters literally are not shown real news as it's breaking. But since these are apparently phone convos and presumably recorded, it's possible that they will be released and some people might open their eyes
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CADE FOSTER
09/19/19 10:11:06 PM
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CruelBuffalo
09/19/19 10:12:49 PM
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front page of fox news mobile is of Aliens, Dennis Rodman, and Madonna
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slimfizzle4
09/19/19 10:14:23 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
front page of fox news mobile is of the Aliens Dennis Rodman and Madonna

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Unknown381
09/19/19 10:16:05 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Moscow Mitch
Moscow Trump

both literal Traitors to America

Not only that but I would wager that half of the Republicans are traitors to America cause half of them are doing their best to protect him and the party from being hold accountable, they don't want to lose that power to the scary Democrats so they'll do whatever it takes even if it means betray America to stay in power.
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DrizztLink
09/19/19 10:18:26 PM
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Phantom_Nook
09/19/19 10:18:48 PM
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Guiliani melting down.
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1174857032018665479
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UnholyMudcrab
09/19/19 10:42:40 PM
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Unknown381 posted...
Antifar posted...
IllegalAlien posted...
ktownslayer16 posted...
Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol

source?


https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1174858440705040384

Jesus, I'm still surprise Trump keeps him around, Rudy just can't help himself but blurt out answers that Trump doesn't want anyone to know about.

Hanlon's razor would say otherwise, but it's almost easier for me to believe that Giuliani is doing this intentionally, in order to fuck Trump over.
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Bio1590
09/19/19 10:58:55 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Unknown381 posted...
Antifar posted...
IllegalAlien posted...
ktownslayer16 posted...
Giuliani just admitted to it on Cuomo. Methinks hes made a very big mistake lol

source?


https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1174858440705040384

Jesus, I'm still surprise Trump keeps him around, Rudy just can't help himself but blurt out answers that Trump doesn't want anyone to know about.

Hanlon's razor would say otherwise, but it's almost easier for me to believe that Giuliani is doing this intentionally, in order to fuck Trump over.

Odd way to destroy any good will people had towards you
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Anteaterking
09/19/19 11:06:53 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Hanlon's razor would say otherwise, but it's almost easier for me to believe that Giuliani is doing this intentionally, in order to f*** Trump over.


Nah, Giuliani's just the kind of guy who likes to talk up his contacts in the FBI, NYPD, etc. but he's old now so he let's intellectual heavyweights like Cuomo run him over.
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slimfizzle4
09/20/19 12:01:42 AM
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No I didnt rub my feet on Charlie Murphys couch, how stupid is that.
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Antifar
09/20/19 3:52:22 PM
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Bio1590
09/20/19 4:18:57 PM
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Oh cool so he just openly admitted it so now everyone's just gonna ignore the illegality of it and move on to the next batshit insane thing he does while Pelosi twiddles her thumbs.
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Hanky_Bannister
09/20/19 4:20:06 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Moscow Mitch
Moscow Trump

both literal Traitors to America

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Hanky_Bannister
09/20/19 4:46:01 PM
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where are his usual supporters to defend this??
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Bio1590
09/20/19 5:16:19 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
where are his usual supporters to defend this??

Mostly in Purgatory
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slimfizzle4
09/20/19 5:18:51 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
where are his usual supporters to defend this??

Mostly in Purgatory

Hehehe
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SmidgeIsntBack
09/20/19 6:01:02 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Oh cool so he just openly admitted it so now everyone's just gonna ignore the illegality of it and move on to the next batshit insane thing he does while Pelosi twiddles her thumbs.

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tullock
09/20/19 6:05:57 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Oh cool so he just openly admitted it so now everyone's just gonna ignore the illegality of it and move on to the next batshit insane thing he does while Pelosi twiddles her thumbs.


Yep, beyond disgusted with how she has handled this entire situation. Regardless of what investigations are being run in the background, the fact she is so laissez-faire about it is unacceptable. If she wins reelection next november and the democrats maintain a majority, they better elect someone like Nadler as speaker instead.
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