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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:22:31 PM
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I need something to get smug and angry about. Not enough admits this afternoon.
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Wewillrocku
09/14/19 2:23:01 PM
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no
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Machete
09/14/19 2:26:03 PM
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@Awesome has implied having some anti-vax views but I don't know if he is a full on anti-vax
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EverDownward
09/14/19 2:28:29 PM
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Why do you want to feel mad at your patients?
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:29:03 PM
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Machete posted...
@Awesome has implied having some anti-vax views but I don't know if he is a full on anti-vax


They never fully come out. It's typically code phrases like

"We need more research"

or

"I believe in choice"

or

"When you can sue big pHARMa then I'll go for them"

Or my personal favorite, that stupid measles mortality chart they like to misinterpret which, somewhat ironically, actually shows that 1 in 1,000 measles cases result in death and, when combined with the measles prevalence prior to the vaccination, resulted in approximately 500 deaths per year.
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Machete
09/14/19 2:31:12 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Machete posted...
@Awesome has implied having some anti-vax views but I don't know if he is a full on anti-vax


They never fully come out. It's typically code phrases like

"We need more research"

or

"I believe in choice"

or

"When you can sue big pHARMa then I'll go for them"

Or my personal favorite, that stupid measles mortality chart they like to misinterpret which, somewhat ironically, actually shows that 1 in 1,000 measles cases result in death and, when combined with the measles prevalence prior to the vaccination, resulted in approximately 500 deaths per year.


yeah, seems like someone that doesn't want to share too much in fear of possible ridicule
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Irony
09/14/19 2:31:37 PM
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@hockeybub89
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hockeybub89
09/14/19 2:31:58 PM
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hockeybub89
09/14/19 2:32:28 PM
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Irony posted...
@hockeybub89

Bro, I still don't get what you're on about
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:32:43 PM
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"Why are there no double blind studies?"

"Would you allow your child to be in the vaccination group?"

"Of course not!"
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/14/19 2:34:07 PM
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The thing you need to understand is, as a doctor, you're biased towards big pharma and push for bias in studies to support the uh, the second helicopter you're buying?

There, good enough?
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:34:59 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
The thing you need to understand is, as a doctor, you're biased towards big pharma and push for bias in studies to support the uh, the second helicopter you're buying?

There, good enough?


You forgot the part where there's a lot of us all over this flat Earth
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/14/19 2:37:36 PM
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DarkRoast posted...

You forgot the part where there's a lot of us all over this flat Earth

Wait wait!
Personally, I wouldn't vaccinate my children. When you consider just how dangerous it is (even if it does work which it doesn't), we're still allowing big pharma to use "vaccinations" to harm our kids.
Let's look at this from the scientific research side (look it up!). It's been shown that it warps the minds of the chidlren under 30 and can alter their perception of how flat edges work versus how circles work. No wonder so many people who are vaccinated think the Earth is round!

Do you have a cure to restore brain cells? I need it now.
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:40:52 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
DarkRoast posted...

You forgot the part where there's a lot of us all over this flat Earth

Wait wait!
Personally, I wouldn't vaccinate my children. When you consider just how dangerous it is (even if it does work which it doesn't), we're still allowing big pharma to use "vaccinations" to harm our kids.
Let's look at this from the scientific research side (look it up!). It's been shown that it warps the minds of the chidlren under 30 and can alter their perception of how flat edges work versus how circles work. No wonder so many people who are vaccinated think the Earth is round!

Do you have a cure to restore brain cells? I need it now.


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Coffee. Enemas.
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Awesome
09/14/19 2:41:34 PM
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you people are annoying, seriously stop talking about vaccines and asking about my views when i cant. moderators told me to stop talking about vaccines but you guys openly bash me here no problem and i cant defend myself.

so let it go and stop being bad people.
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GiftedACIII
09/14/19 2:42:25 PM
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@flour
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DeadBankerDream
09/14/19 2:44:10 PM
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Imagine being terrible enough to be an anti-vaxxer

Like, should you even legally be considered a human at that point?
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:44:55 PM
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Awesome posted...
you people are annoying, seriously stop talking about vaccines and asking about my views when i cant. moderators told me to stop talking about vaccines but you guys openly bash me here no problem and i cant defend myself.

so let it go and stop being bad people.


"Why can't I freely dispense dangerous, wrong information on this privately-owned message board?"
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hockeybub89
09/14/19 2:46:49 PM
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Awesome posted...
you people are annoying, seriously stop talking about vaccines and asking about my views when i cant. moderators told me to stop talking about vaccines but you guys openly bash me here no problem and i cant defend myself.

so let it go and stop being bad people.

Maybe you should stop advocating for people to harm their children and spread diseases through the populace. Did you ever fucking consider that? Every anti-vaxxer should be stripped of their parental duties. Child abusers don't get kids.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/14/19 2:47:43 PM
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Joking aside, what the fuck is the argument for either way.
Like aren't vaccinations (I don't get the regularly here in Ireland since I don't evne know if it's a thing to do it annually) meant to help something with regards to diseases?
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Awesome
09/14/19 2:47:55 PM
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i havent talked about my views on vaccines for a very long time you two dumbasses

seriously one of you is a doctor and is just a straight bad person who shouldnt be treating anybody, you are too full of anger.
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Wewillrocku
09/14/19 2:48:37 PM
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your views about vaccines, as you put it, are religious and you should practice your religion (if you even do practice one) as quietly as possible.
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Ving_Rhames
09/14/19 2:48:54 PM
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Awesome posted...
you people are annoying, seriously stop talking about vaccines and asking about my views when i cant. moderators told me to stop talking about vaccines but you guys openly bash me here no problem and i cant defend myself.

so let it go and stop being bad people.


Yes, people who are anti bio-terrorism are the bad people.
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Awesome
09/14/19 2:50:19 PM
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again ill say it once more because you people dont understand, when you dumbasses start making topics about vaccines stop mentioning my name.

what a bunch of clowns some of you are.
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:50:31 PM
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Awesome posted...
seriously one of you is a doctor and is just a straight bad person who shouldnt be treating anybody, you are too full of anger.


Only a Sith deals in absolutes
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treewojima
09/14/19 2:51:31 PM
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I just don't like shots
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Machete
09/14/19 2:54:12 PM
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Awesome posted...
again ill say it once more because you people dont understand, when you dumbasses start making topics about vaccines stop mentioning my name.


I didn't know about that. My bad. I won't mention you again. No need to flame though.
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:55:05 PM
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Machete posted...
Awesome posted...
again ill say it once more because you people dont understand, when you dumbasses start making topics about vaccines stop mentioning my name.


I didn't know about that. My bad. I won't mention you again. No need to flame though.


I just want to point out that at no point did I mention his name
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Awesome
09/14/19 2:56:02 PM
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you bash me in a lot of other topics so why are you apologizing? and nice how you start playing victim " oh dont flame me bro "
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Machete
09/14/19 2:59:00 PM
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Awesome posted...
you bash me in a lot of other topics so why are you apologizing? and nice how you start playing victim " oh dont flame me bro "


What I'm saying is that I mentioned you because I thought you were being quiet about your views because you wanted to hide them and I wanted to hear them, but if you were told not to talk about them and your reasoning was because of warnings from the mods, that's different, and I didn't know that. That's a valid reason to not bring it up and it would be a dick move for me to mention you about it again now that I'm aware of it, so I will refrain from mentioning you on the subject again.
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DarkRoast
09/14/19 2:59:02 PM
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XRcgPUH

Thanos style
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Ving_Rhames
09/14/19 3:01:20 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
XRcgPUH

Thanos style


34 likes.

Just 1 like is too many.
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DeadBankerDream
09/14/19 3:01:27 PM
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Mercy and other poisons
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/14/19 3:05:24 PM
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Seriously
Is this a yearly thing in America?

Like what the fuck is the rage against them
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hockeybub89
09/14/19 3:06:41 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
XRcgPUH

Thanos style

These deranged people are literally walking among us.

There is so much insanity to unpack in there.
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Zikten
09/14/19 3:09:28 PM
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I'm anti flu shot. for myself. I hate getting shots. and last time I got the flu shot, I still got the flu. so it's not worth it to me. i'd rather maybe go through a flu, then get a shot. I hate needles
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Machete
09/14/19 3:12:32 PM
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when I see those typos, I don't think about vaccines. I think about a horse being mercifully put down after sustaining a gruesome injury during a polo match.

Also yikes at killing people for the sake of offing people
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FLOUR
09/14/19 3:12:51 PM
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Yeah, there's no real point of this topic now that anti-vaxxers can't speak their mind without being banned. All I know is kids born in the 60-70s survived on 3-5 shots by the time they reached 18. Nowadays kids somehow require 72. Want to change my stance on the issue? PROVE that the Jenny McCarthys of the world are all wrong regarding their observations.
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Machete
09/14/19 3:15:11 PM
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FLOUR posted...
Nowadays kids somehow require 72


Is there a source for this?
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hockeybub89
09/14/19 3:17:44 PM
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Machete posted...
FLOUR posted...
Nowadays kids somehow require 72


Is there a source for this?

Even if his number was half true (it's not), "We have more vaccines than we used to" is in no proof of some kind of nefarious conspiracy. We also have more medicine that we did in Renaissance Italy.
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Ruvan22
09/14/19 3:19:14 PM
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FLOUR posted...
Yeah, there's no real point of this topic now that anti-vaxxers can't speak their mind without being banned. All I know is kids born in the 60-70s survived on 3-5 shots by the time they reached 18. Nowadays kids somehow require 72. Want to change my stance on the issue? PROVE that the Jenny McCarthys of the world are all wrong regarding their observations.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_McCarthy#Activism
From Wikipedia (sourced)
McCarthy's claims that vaccines cause autism are not supported by any medical evidence, and the original paper by Andrew Wakefield that formed the basis for the claims (and for whose book McCarthy wrote a foreword)[75] was based on manipulated data and fraudulent research.[76][77][78][79] The BMJ published a 2011 article by journalist Brian Deer, based on information uncovered by Freedom of Information legislation after the British General Medical Council (GMC) inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield that led to him being struck off from the medical register (and thus unable to practice medicine in the UK) and his articles retracted, stating that Wakefield had planned a venture to profit from the MMR vaccine scare.[80][81][82][83]

More specifically, McCarthy now doesn't oppose vaccinations, but wants a different schedule
I am not anti-vaccine, ... I'm in this gray zone of, I think everyone should be aware and educate yourself and ask questions. And if your kid is having a problem, ask your doctor for an alternative way of doing the shots. ... The ironic thing is my position has always remained the same. People just never listened to it.[7]
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Squall28
09/14/19 3:20:30 PM
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I don't get my flu shots. Does that count?
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Machete
09/14/19 3:22:39 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Even if his number was half true (it's not), "We have more vaccines than we used to" is in no proof of some kind of nefarious conspiracy. We also have more medicine that we did in Renaissance Italy.


yeah, and if kids are getting new flu shots every year, that inflates it too. Those weren't a thing when I was younger and I don't even get them now because I also don't get the flu and I don't work in any industry where I would be required to get them. I would have my kids get them but I won't have kids so that doesn't matter either way (just pre-emptively bringing it up so anyone inclined to ask won't have to bother)
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FLOUR
09/14/19 3:38:36 PM
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72 was the magic number I heard.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

Maybe not 72, but according to this, the "recommended" amount is about 25 doses by the time a kid is 2 years old unless I'm missing something.

Again, people my age had around 5 doses total until they were adults.
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hockeybub89
09/14/19 3:41:09 PM
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FLOUR posted...
72 was the magic number I heard.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

Maybe not 72, but according to this, the "recommended" amount is about 25 doses by the time a kid is 2 years old unless I'm missing something.

Again, people my age had around 5 doses total until they were adults.

So you're casually going to ignore than you were off by almost 50? You're misrepresenting still as many of those are boosters of multiple stages one vaccine.

What is the implication anyway? Tell us why you believe there are more vaccines given these days and how you think they are harmful.
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PleaseClap
09/14/19 3:42:09 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Awesome posted...
you people are annoying, seriously stop talking about vaccines and asking about my views when i cant. moderators told me to stop talking about vaccines but you guys openly bash me here no problem and i cant defend myself.

so let it go and stop being bad people.


"Why can't I freely dispense dangerous, wrong information on this privately-owned message board?"

Why are you calling me out for having shitty beliefs?! This is so unfair!
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hockeybub89
09/14/19 3:44:06 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
DarkRoast posted...
Awesome posted...
you people are annoying, seriously stop talking about vaccines and asking about my views when i cant. moderators told me to stop talking about vaccines but you guys openly bash me here no problem and i cant defend myself.

so let it go and stop being bad people.


"Why can't I freely dispense dangerous, wrong information on this privately-owned message board?"

Why are you calling me out for having shitty beliefs?! This is so unfair!

"Free speech means never being told you're wrong"
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FLOUR
09/14/19 3:49:14 PM
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So you're casually going to ignore than you were off by almost 50?

Seriously? I counted at least 35 from non flu doses alone. Then add in the yearly flu shot and I'm not THAT off.
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Wewillrocku
09/14/19 3:52:08 PM
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the word for this isn't doses. it's shots.
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