Current Events > So ProJared's ex wife was at fault all along?

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Hearing that she was possibly abusive to him. She's going insane on twitter.
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Nah she was innocent .

Well he barely talked about her in his defense video while she is going ape shit .Doesn't look good in her favor

link to crazy twitter?
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SoraOwnsOctopus posted...

link to crazy twitter?

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https://mobile.twitter.com/AtelierHeidi/
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She certainly comes off as unstable on twitter, that's for sure.
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I think he wanted to end the relationship but she wouldn't let him so then he cheated.
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Yeah she was crazy, tbh I think they're both idiots but she's the more crazy one. Other guy is at least a normal idiot, she's a vindictive blackmailing manipulator. Reason she's so mad now is because the guy (who didn't even really bring her up in his video) is more or less getting exonerated.

No. Anyone who thinks she's "crazy" is just buying into textbook manipulation from ProJared.

_Rinku_ posted...

No. Anyone who thinks she's "crazy" is just buying into textbook manipulation from ProJared.

I mean I just follow the evidence tbh. When people said he was crazy and made videos on how he's manipulative, etc. I was like "one side of the story, but okay sure. I've always had problems with the dude." But then when her own material came out........ yeah it didn't look good. Still doesn't, not improving.

I have no doubt in my mind that Jared is only telling half-truths and is manipulating this audience...but his Ex is doing the same thing and potentially did worse.

They deserve each other. But Jared does deserve the pendulum swinging in his favor a bit now to course correct the conversation.
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_Rinku_ posted...

No. Anyone who thinks she's "crazy" is just buying into textbook manipulation from ProJared.

She definitely crazy
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I don't even know projared or his wife but internet drama is entertaining, anyway I went to that twitter and I think her pinned tweet and her most recent retweet are pretty funny when read together

If the truth about someone's conduct can ruin their career, the problem is their conduct, not the truth.

I think the romanticized notion of "good" people is actually one of the most toxic ideas out there. The expectation that there are people who always do the right thing and say the right thing is unfulfillable and leads to us lashing out at people for being human.

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Any link to a specific tweet that paints her as crazy? Going down her page it just looks like she's defending herself while this asshole lies some more.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Any link to a specific tweet that paints her as crazy? Going down her page it just looks like she's defending herself while this asshole lies some more.

She goes into week-long melties and won't even watch his last video because his face triggers her. She legit crazy
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JustMyOpinion posted...

I've followed none of this, but if (and again that's a big if as I know nothing related to this) my partner cheated on me and forced me to be with them I'd be a little crazy too.

They were in an open marriage, she had several partners, and everything was going well until Jared started meeting up with Holly Conrad.

From the sound of it, the wife got jealous and tried to make him break it off aka- "I can bang whoever I want in this open marriage, but not you."

He was trying for a divorce, she said "no, and i you try to divorce me, i'm going to ruin your life/career".

Of course this is coming from Jared himself, so it may not be 100% accurate, but it lines up pretty well, plus he's already in litigation, the last thing he would want is to have a video of him lying about everything for the people he's suing to use as evidence against him.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Any link to a specific tweet that paints her as crazy? Going down her page it just looks like she's defending herself while this asshole lies some more.

Ain't no body gonna do research for ya man, you can easily find the screenshots and whatnot on YT. But a lot of it was summarized above, and there are screenshots of it. Funnily enough, and going with the whole thing about her being legit crazy, she released some damning DMs of herself publicly.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Any link to a specific tweet that paints her as crazy? Going down her page it just looks like she's defending herself while this asshole lies some more.

You haven't seen the "Sara" conversation?
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_Rinku_ posted...

No. Anyone who thinks she's "crazy" is just buying into textbook manipulation from ProJared.

Jared has barely said a word about Heidi and 95% of his 42 minute video was addressing the nudes to minors allegations.

Meanwhile she's been posting tons (literally hundreds) of texts between her and Jared, a couple of friends, and even her therapist where she's constantly berating her. She posted all the evidence we need to call her crazy without Jared's help.

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_Rinku_ posted...

No. Anyone who thinks she's "crazy" is just buying into textbook manipulation from ProJared.

She's not going to fuck you, my dude.
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pogo_rabid posted...

Of course this is coming from Jared himself, so it may not be 100% accurate, but it lines up pretty well, plus he's already in litigation, the last thing he would want is to have a video of him lying about everything for the people he's suing to use as evidence against him.

That... does seem to be a point in his favor. Wait, who's he suing?

Either way their marriage was messed up. And while open marriages can work, to each their own, this does seem like an ever present danger with it.

At least the underage stuff wasn't true, though I still think the nudes thing he was doing was kinda bad.
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Sir Will posted...

That... does seem to be a point in his favor. Wait, who's he suing?

I forget if he mentioned who specifically, but probably his ex wife and the people who he can prove defamed him.

No doubt he had his lawer(s) go through that video/script with a fine tooth comb beforehand.
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Heidi seems nuts, but Jared still pulled that sinjared bullshit so he's still not off the hook as far as I'm concerned.

I'm totally waiting for his "new" fans to turn on him once he does something dumb again. I have a feeling they're gonna become the next kpop stans if they don't chill.
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PostCrisisJ2 posted...

, but Jared still pulled that sinjared bullshit so he's still not off the hook as far as I'm concerned.

Heidi technically knew about it and was ok with it
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They both seem like horrible people.
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The internet sure likes to flip flop every time someone releases a new video.
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the moral of the story is that people can be pretty awful a lot of the time, and almost nobody is as good as they say they are
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EverDownward posted...

the moral of the story is that people can be pretty awful a lot of the time, and almost nobody is as good as they say they are

The moral of the story is, listen to both sides and try to come to your own conclusion.
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Superlinkbro posted...

PostCrisisJ2 posted...

, but Jared still pulled that sinjared bullshit so he's still not off the hook as far as I'm concerned.

Heidi technically knew about it and was ok with it

It doesn't matter if Heidi knew about it, it was just a terrible idea all around. This feels like this is gonna be another Vic situation if he's gonna start suing people too.
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PostCrisisJ2 posted...

Superlinkbro posted...

PostCrisisJ2 posted...

, but Jared still pulled that sinjared bullshit so he's still not off the hook as far as I'm concerned.

Heidi technically knew about it and was ok with it

It doesn't matter if Heidi knew about it, it was just a terrible idea all around. This feels like this is gonna be another Vic situation if he's gonna start suing people too.

Oh I'll agree there. It was really stupid of him to do that in general, and I don't think asking "are you 18+" was enough to ensure safety.
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EverDownward posted...

the moral of the story is that people can be pretty awful a lot of the time, and almost nobody is as good as they say they are

The real moral is people shouldn't get involved in other people's internet drama
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Literal z-list celebs airing out their drama for the world to see. Imagine if everyone handled relationships this way.
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TheDreadedWave posted...

EverDownward posted...

the moral of the story is that people can be pretty awful a lot of the time, and almost nobody is as good as they say they are

The real moral is people shouldn't get involved in other people's internet drama

It's kinda hard to do that when you make yourself a public figure. You have to expect that some fraction of your life is going to be available for public consumption at all time.
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Conception616 posted...

Literal z-list celebs airing out their drama for the world to see. Imagine if everyone handled relationships this way.

It's becoming more common at least among my social circles.

The amount of arguments that should be private getting aired out over Facebook the past year is astounding to me.
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bad people attract bad people
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Neither of them are in the fault. They were just in an extremely unstable marriage.

Only thing Projared subjectively did wrong was trade nudes with fans. Their open marriage situation is really hard to clearly define who was truly in the wrong. Heidi has at one point said yes, but then changed her mind after Jared has already committed to another relationship. A person's feelings aren't so easy to change after commitment. Jared has also definitely suggested splitting early on, but Heidi refused, so she didn't exactly give Jared a whole lot of options. Not to mention she was in another relationship herself

Best to just say it's a relationship gone sour and leave them to themselves

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Both seem pretty terrible
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