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Antifar
09/01/19 8:28:52 PM
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http://www.deepsouthvoice.com/index.php/2019/09/01/no-mixed-or-gay-couples-mississippi-wedding-venue-manager-says-on-video/

aKambria Welch claims her brother and his fiance had been in contact with the owner of Boones Camp Event Hall making wedding arrangements for about a week when, suddenly, the owner of the Booneville, Miss., business sent them a message: They would not be allowed to get married at the venue after all because of (the venues) beliefs.

When Welch learned that her brother, who is black, would not be allowed to rent Boones Camp to marry his fiance, who is a white woman, she said she drove to the venue herself and asked why. There, she filmed what she says is an encounter with a woman who works for Boones Camp (video below).

First of all, we dont do gay weddings or mixed race, because of our Christian raceI mean, our Christian belief, the woman tells Welch in the video.

Okay, were Christians as well, Welch replies.

Yes maam, the woman says.

So, what in the Bible tells you that?, Welch beings to ask, before getting cut off by the apparent Boones camp employee.

Well, I dont want to argue my faith, the woman says.

No, thats fine, Welch replies.

We just dont participate, the woman says.

Okay, Welch responds.

We just choose not to, the woman continues.

Okay. So thats your Christian belief, right?, Welch asks.

Yes maam.

Welch says she believes the venue found out her brother and his fiance, whose names she has not provided to DSV, through Facebook.

The owner took a look at my brothers fiances page and wrote her back to say they wont be able to get married there because of her beliefs, Welch told DSV. He told my mom and she contacted the owner through messenger to only get a seen with no reply. Thats when I took it upon myself to go get clarification on her beliefs.

Another woman, Katelynn Springsteen, also claims the venue refused to offer its services to a gay couple last year. She provided DSV a screenshot of Facebook messages she says she exchanged with the venue in September 2018.

I was trying to find my best friend, who is lesbian, a wedding venue. I was immediately shot down when I was asked if they were okay with a gay wedding, Springsteen said.

In the screenshot, a page identified as Boones Camp Event Hall (Boones Camp took their Facebook page down this weekend after Welch posted the video), sends Springsteen a list of prices for its wedding services in a message dated September 2018.

Are you okay with it being a gay marriage ceremony? Springsteen asks.

Thanks for checking with us Katelynn, but due to our Christian faith, we would not be able to accommodate you.

Deep South Voice reached out to Boones Camp. A man who answered the phone did not identify himself, saying only that they had no comment. He hung up before DSV could ask any further questions. He did not confirm nor deny that the video showed a Boones Camp employee, nor that the venue had such a policy.

In 2016, the Mississippi Legislature passed a religious freedom law allowing businesses to refuse service to LGBT people on the basis of their religious beliefs about marriage or gender. Republican Gov. Phil Bryant signed that bill, House Bill 1523, into law.

After being initially struck down in federal court, the conservative U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals allowed the law to stand. The U.S. Supreme Court did not take the case.

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hockeybub89
09/01/19 8:30:39 PM
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"Yeah, I'm racist, but it's cool. I believe this book is telling me I'm supposed to be."
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MacadamianNut3
09/01/19 8:31:49 PM
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Antifar posted...
First of all, we dont do gay weddings or mixed race, because of our Christian raceI mean, our Christian belief,

Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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davyheinz
09/01/19 8:32:36 PM
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apocalyptic_4
09/01/19 8:33:26 PM
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I thought racism was dead since 2008
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Zikten
09/01/19 8:33:34 PM
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where in the bible does it fucking say anything about interracial marriage being sinful? I've never seen that, and I used to read the bible when I was a kid.
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Artillatron8
09/01/19 8:34:46 PM
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I understand not doing gay weddings. But mixed race? That's just ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say anything against interracial couples getting married.
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Zikten
09/01/19 8:36:29 PM
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oh and btw, by the standards of 2 thousand or more, years ago, most of the world has been doing "interracial" marriage for centuries. the concept of race was different 2 thousand years ago than today. take europe for example. it wasn't just "white people". there was no concept of a "white race". instead it was

Romans
Gauls
Britons
Germans

etc

back then, all those groups saw themselves as separate races. so any white american with german ancestry who marries a person who is white with British or French or Italian ancestry, is committing sin according to these people
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TheMikh
09/01/19 8:39:57 PM
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Mississippi was a mistake.
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hockeybub89
09/01/19 8:41:03 PM
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Zikten posted...
oh and btw, by the standards of 2 thousand or more, years ago, most of the world has been doing "interracial" marriage for centuries. the concept of race was different 2 thousand years ago than today. take europe for example. it wasn't just "white people". there was no concept of a "white race". instead it was

Romans
Gauls
Britons
Germans

etc

back then, all those groups saw themselves as separate races. so any white american with german ancestry who marries a person who is white with British or French or Italian ancestry, is committing sin according to these people

This very country saw the Irish and other immigrants as another race.
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Infinite 2003
09/01/19 8:41:04 PM
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I remember that part in the Bible where Jesus was telling Mary Magdalene Id better not hear about you fucking around with any black dudes

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YourDrunkFather
09/01/19 8:46:13 PM
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List BBC sluts in the Bible
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GallisOTK
09/01/19 8:56:27 PM
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Artillatron8 posted...
I understand not doing gay weddings. But mixed race? That's just ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say anything against interracial couples getting married.

This. Them using "Christian beliefs" to justify this is just a pathetic cop-out.
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ssjevot
09/01/19 8:57:44 PM
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The modern concept of race just didn't exist at all in the Bible's time. You will hear them talk about tribes and people from different cities and countries, but never people of a certain "race". Despite the fact that many people of many skin colors would have been living in the various places the Bible is set, it says nothing about interracial relationships. Just another far rightist claiming a book they never read justifies their beliefs.
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Antifar
09/01/19 8:59:11 PM
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ssjevot posted...
The modern concept of race just didn't exist at all in the Bible's time.

That's right.
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sylverlolol
09/01/19 9:01:10 PM
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Ugh.
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kuwab0
09/01/19 9:01:25 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
List BBC sluts in the Bible
Virgin Mary

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Ivynn
09/01/19 9:03:12 PM
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Christian racism is weird. You'd think religion would trump all. If the white person is Christian and the black person is Christian, wouldn't that be enough to be friendly? >_>
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thronedfire2
09/01/19 9:04:34 PM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
Antifar posted...
First of all, we dont do gay weddings or mixed race, because of our Christian raceI mean, our Christian belief,

Hmmmmmmmmmmm


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Tired-Insomniac
09/01/19 9:06:59 PM
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lol they deleted their Facebook page and somehow wiped themselves off of Google after getting review bombed
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Artillatron8
09/01/19 9:08:37 PM
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I forgot to mention that the Bible allowed marriage between cousins. Why would it allow this, but not interracial? This is just their own racism using the Bible as a cop out.
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NeoShadowhen
09/01/19 9:09:02 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Christian racism is weird. You'd think religion would trump all. If the white person is Christian and the black person is Christian, wouldn't that be enough to be friendly? >_>


It really is. Almost all of the time.
But there are exceptions.

This has nothing to do with religion.
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Skye Reynolds
09/01/19 9:09:35 PM
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First of all, we dont do gay weddings or mixed race, because of our Christian raceI mean, our Christian belief, the woman tells Welch in the video.

Is this satire?

Please be satire.
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Anteaterking
09/01/19 9:09:54 PM
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thronedfire2
09/01/19 9:11:05 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Christian racism is weird. You'd think religion would trump all. If the white person is Christian and the black person is Christian, wouldn't that be enough to be friendly? >_>


not to mention all that stuff about treating people equally etc etc
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pikachupwnage
09/01/19 9:12:59 PM
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Dumb as hell.

All these racist losers had to do was make up some bullshit reason that sounded good for the cancelation.

Now they rightfully will be on blast and lose a ton of buisness.

Racism and stupidity are peas in a pod


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brestugo
09/01/19 9:13:22 PM
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AND YET........

someone will defend this.
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legendary_zell
09/01/19 9:14:26 PM
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Infinite 2003 posted...
I remember that part in the Bible where Jesus was telling Mary Magdalene Id better not hear about you fucking around with any black dudes


This was my favorite part, right after the angel Michael came down from heaven and told the faithful to "build that wall!"
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brestugo
09/01/19 9:17:28 PM
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Just did a google images search. That place looks like a fucking barn that someone swept out and put tables and chairs into. I'm not bullshitting. Hopefully they can find a better venue - for free.
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Future_Ruins
09/01/19 9:26:18 PM
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To quote the late Phil Ochs.

Here's to the land you've torn out the heart of, Mississippi find yourself another country to be part of.
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brestugo
09/01/19 9:28:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ25-U3jNWM" data-time="

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Phantom_Nook
09/01/19 9:34:11 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
First of all, we dont do gay weddings or mixed race, because of our Christian raceI mean, our Christian belief, the woman tells Welch in the video.

Is this satire?

Please be satire.

Even worse: it's Mississippi.
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Lairen
09/01/19 9:37:15 PM
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Why was her reason like:

"Its because im raaaa....er, um, cist."
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CookieMarvin
09/01/19 9:38:54 PM
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Artillatron8 posted...
I understand not doing gay weddings. But mixed race? That's just ridiculous.


knew I was gonna find this exact post in here.

V6p5UoN

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Esrac
09/01/19 9:40:18 PM
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Artillatron8 posted...
I understand not doing gay weddings. But mixed race? That's just ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say anything against interracial couples getting married.


This. I can understand the justification for a christian venue not doing gay weddings, but I'm not aware of any religious prohibition against interracial marriage.
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kingdrake2
09/01/19 9:41:41 PM
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Esrac posted...
Artillatron8 posted...
I understand not doing gay weddings. But mixed race? That's just ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say anything against interracial couples getting married.


This. I can understand the justification for a christian venue not doing gay weddings, but I'm not aware of any religious prohibition against interracial marriage.


there isn't. only against LBGT.
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the0rebirth
09/01/19 9:42:29 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
I thought racism was dead since 2008


Are you kiddin' me? If anything, people seem to feel less of a need to hide it these days.

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DarkChozoGhost
09/01/19 9:48:24 PM
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If you're ok with venues refusing gay weddings you should be ok with this.
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Ruvan22
09/01/19 9:58:26 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
Esrac posted...
Artillatron8 posted...
I understand not doing gay weddings. But mixed race? That's just ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say anything against interracial couples getting married.


This. I can understand the justification for a christian venue not doing gay weddings, but I'm not aware of any religious prohibition against interracial marriage.


there isn't. only against LBGT.


Apparently most of you haven't met that many Southern Christians - the belief is still prevalent, and scripture is often cited like this
As individuals, they [blacks people] are precious souls for whom Christ died and whom we are to love and seek to win. As a race, however, they are unique and different and have their own culture. I would never marry a black. Why? Because I believe God made the races, separated them, and set the bounds of their habitation (Deuteronomy 32:8; Acts 17:26). He made them uniquely different and intended that these distinctions remain. God never intended the human race to become a mixed or mongrel race. So, while I am strongly opposed to segregation, I favor separation that the uniqueness with which God made them is maintained.

Now attitudes have (thankfully) changed, but here's an article from somebody who grew up believing miscegenation (marrying across races) was Biblically wrong and how many of his cohort still believe the same

https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/should-we-encourage-interracial-marriage
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Zikten
09/01/19 10:13:30 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
You must not marry people of other nations. If you do, they will cause you to follow their gods.


I mean that doesn't even make sense cause many black americans are Christians too. so what other god?
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Dragonblade01
09/01/19 10:17:56 PM
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People don't believe for logical reasons, so pointing out that race wasn't a thing when the Bible was witten unfortunately doesn't help.
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09/01/19 10:18:44 PM
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AmericaTheBrave
09/01/19 10:54:02 PM
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Infinite 2003 posted...
I remember that part in the Bible where Jesus was telling Mary Magdalene Id better not hear about you fucking around with any black dudes


But Jesus was black
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brestugo
09/01/19 10:55:54 PM
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Zikten posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
You must not marry people of other nations. If you do, they will cause you to follow their gods.


I mean that doesn't even make sense cause many black americans are Christians too. so what other god?

+1

the groom's sister even said "we're Christian too."
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Ruvan22
09/01/19 10:56:27 PM
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Zikten posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
You must not marry people of other nations. If you do, they will cause you to follow their gods.


I mean that doesn't even make sense cause many black americans are Christians too. so what other god?


Read the second article I linked
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Antifar
09/01/19 10:58:37 PM
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I think the impulse to outlogic people like this is missing the point.
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ssjevot
09/01/19 11:06:13 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...

1 Kings 11:1-5 King Solomon loved many women who were not from Israel. He loved the daughter of the king of Egypt, as well as women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites. The Lord had told the Israelites, You must not marry people of other nations. If you do, they will cause you to follow their gods.


Most interracial marriages are of people of the same nation who follow the same gods so that isn't a relevant verse. At no point does it make a distinction of people of the same nation, same gods, but different skin colors.
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