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LadyVyxx 08/22/19 12:01:06 AM #51:	Panthera posted... LadyVyxx posted... From a purely genre defying and classic lead standpoint and historical relevance the real answer has to be Slayer From a relevance and influence standpoint there's straight up no possible answer other than Black Sabbath. You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. fire_bolt posted... LadyVyxx posted... From a purely genre defying and classic lead standpoint and historical relevance the real answer has to be Slayer Not gonna argue that Slayer is one of the most influential metal bands of all time, but Iron Maiden pretty well fits this too. I'd say the two probably share the title. I'm not a big Maiden fan but I agree with your statement for sure. DirkDiggles posted... RoadsterUFO posted... Theyre just watered down Kings X and Exhorder riffs with a roided brodude redneck shouting N.W.A gangsta rap-esque lyrics. At least after Cowboys From Hell anyway. lol You mean after Far Beyond Driven... Phil went on to get sober and joined Down, which is very underrated band. Dimebag and Vinnie went on to form Damageplan and some lunatic asshole stormed the stage and shot Dimebag to death. Vinnie went on to form HellYeah, which sucked balls. I remember coming to school the day after Dime was killed. My one friend was absolutely devastated. Hellyeah wasnt that great I admit but still, Vinnie is also dead now RIP <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926386149] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>From a purely genre defying and classic lead standpoint and historical relevance the real answer has to be Slayer</quote> From a relevance and influence standpoint there's straight up no possible answer other than Black Sabbath.</quote> You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. fire_bolt posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>From a purely genre defying and classic lead standpoint and historical relevance the real answer has to be Slayer</quote> Not gonna argue that Slayer is one of the most influential metal bands of all time, but Iron Maiden pretty well fits this too. I'd say the two probably share the title.</quote> I'm not a big Maiden fan but I agree with your statement for sure. DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Theyre just watered down Kings X and Exhorder riffs with a roided brodude redneck shouting N.W.A gangsta rap-esque lyrics. At least after Cowboys From Hell anyway.</quote> lol You mean after Far Beyond Driven... Phil went on to get sober and joined Down, which is very underrated band. Dimebag and Vinnie went on to form Damageplan and some lunatic asshole stormed the stage and shot Dimebag to death. Vinnie went on to form HellYeah, which sucked balls.</quote> I remember coming to school the day after Dime was killed. My one friend was absolutely devastated. Hellyeah wasnt that great I admit but still, Vinnie is also dead now RIP</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 12:02:28 AM #52:	I don't know about greatest but my favorites are Deftones, Opeth, and Gojira --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926386190] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>I don't know about greatest but my favorites are Deftones, Opeth, and Gojira</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 08/22/19 12:03:09 AM #53:	Zodd3224 posted... I don't know about greatest but my favorites are Deftones, Opeth, and Gojira Nice taste! <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926386214] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know about greatest but my favorites are Deftones, Opeth, and Gojira</quote> Nice taste!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 08/22/19 12:05:11 AM #54:	Babymetal Just kidding ~~But not really~~ --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:926386293] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Babymetal Just kidding But not really</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 12:05:46 AM #55:	LadyVyxx posted... Zodd3224 posted... I don't know about greatest but my favorites are Deftones, Opeth, and Gojira Nice taste! Thanks. I'm going to see Gojira on Tuesday. Cant wait. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926386310] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know about greatest but my favorites are Deftones, Opeth, and Gojira</quote> Nice taste!</quote> Thanks. I'm going to see Gojira on Tuesday. Cant wait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cavalierking 08/22/19 12:05:50 AM #56:	dir en grey! --- live and let live <cite>cavalierking posted [p:926386312] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>dir en grey!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SMAP- 08/22/19 12:08:43 AM #57:	Black Sabbath or Darkthrone --- sigless user <cite>SMAP- posted [p:926386409] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Black Sabbath or Darkthrone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winnsock 08/22/19 12:14:12 AM #58:	Sarcofago --- GT: Winnsock <cite>Winnsock posted [p:926386621] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Sarcofago</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 08/22/19 12:15:29 AM #59:	Flockaveli posted... Meshuggah. --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:926386665] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote>Meshuggah.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 08/22/19 12:16:11 AM #60:	Lordgold666 posted... Flockaveli posted... Meshuggah. Love me some djentelmen <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926386690] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Lordgold666 posted...</cite> <quote>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote>Meshuggah.</quote></quote> Love me some djentelmen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 08/22/19 12:18:41 AM #61:	LadyVyxx posted... You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre. --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:926386766] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often.</quote> Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 12:20:05 AM #62:	Panthera posted... LadyVyxx posted... You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre. Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926386821] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often.</quote> Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre.</quote> Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodmoon77 08/22/19 12:20:05 AM #63:	Avenged sevenfold /topic --- I wouldn't trust this company with making a cheese sandwich, they'd start an additional kickstarter for the mayo-ssjmatthew on Comcept's MN9 <cite>Bloodmoon77 posted [p:926386823] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Avenged sevenfold /topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 08/22/19 12:21:09 AM #64:	Zodd3224 posted... Panthera posted... LadyVyxx posted... You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre. Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important. They were influential sure but not nearly on the scale of Sabbath, and the argument of "they were evil" is particularly not a good one --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:926386852] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often.</quote> Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre.</quote> Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important.</quote> They were influential sure but not nearly on the scale of Sabbath, and the argument of "they were evil" is particularly not a good one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 12:21:14 AM #65:	Bloodmoon77 posted... Avenged sevenfold /topic I actually enjoy Waking the Fallen and the first half of City of Evil. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926386856] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Bloodmoon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Avenged sevenfold /topic</quote> I actually enjoy Waking the Fallen and the first half of City of Evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 12:23:25 AM #66:	Panthera posted... Zodd3224 posted... Panthera posted... LadyVyxx posted... You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre. Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important. They were influential sure but not nearly on the scale of Sabbath, and the argument of "they were evil" is particularly not a good one Sure it is. Metal was always rebellious and loud but they took it to even darker places which lead to death metal, black metal, etc. Every big extreme metal band that came after them point to Hell Awaits and Regin in Blood among their biggest inspirations. The quality of the music was important but the darkness of the lyrics, vocals, and atmosphere of their early work is also a huge part of it. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926386920] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often.</quote> Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre.</quote> Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important.</quote> They were influential sure but not nearly on the scale of Sabbath, and the argument of "they were evil" is particularly not a good one</quote> Sure it is. Metal was always rebellious and loud but they took it to even darker places which lead to death metal, black metal, etc. Every big extreme metal band that came after them point to Hell Awaits and Regin in Blood among their biggest inspirations. The quality of the music was important but the darkness of the lyrics, vocals, and atmosphere of their early work is also a huge part of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 08/22/19 12:27:41 AM #67:	Zodd3224 posted... Panthera posted... LadyVyxx posted... You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre. Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important. In all honesty it's going to come down to what makes any of these bands the "greatest" in your own eyes though. Metallica, maiden, slayer, or sabbath are all good answers here depending on what exactly you feel has the most weight in an argument. Going purely by influential or original youd have to round up an argument for Tool even (depends how loose your version of the metal genre goes as well) <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926387043] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often.</quote> Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre.</quote> Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important.</quote> In all honesty it's going to come down to what makes any of these bands the "greatest" in your own eyes though. Metallica, maiden, slayer, or sabbath are all good answers here depending on what exactly you feel has the most weight in an argument. Going purely by influential or original youd have to round up an argument for Tool even (depends how loose your version of the metal genre goes as well)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 12:29:56 AM #68:	LadyVyxx posted... Zodd3224 posted... Panthera posted... LadyVyxx posted... You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre. Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important. In all honesty it's going to come down to what makes any of these bands the "greatest" in your own eyes though. Metallica, maiden, slayer, or sabbath are all good answers here depending on what exactly you feel has the most weight in an argument. Going purely by influential or original youd have to round up an argument for Tool even (depends how loose your version of the metal genre goes as well) Indeed. Tool also influenced the entire nu-metal wave that came in the early 90s. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926387105] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often.</quote> Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre.</quote> Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important.</quote> In all honesty it's going to come down to what makes any of these bands the "greatest" in your own eyes though. Metallica, maiden, slayer, or sabbath are all good answers here depending on what exactly you feel has the most weight in an argument. Going purely by influential or original youd have to round up an argument for Tool even (depends how loose your version of the metal genre goes as well)</quote> Indeed. Tool also influenced the entire nu-metal wave that came in the early 90s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 08/22/19 12:30:49 AM #69:	Panthera posted... Zodd3224 posted... Panthera posted... LadyVyxx posted... You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often. Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre. Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important. They were influential sure but not nearly on the scale of Sabbath, and the argument of "they were evil" is particularly not a good one It's not that "they were evil" was some sort of talent that others couldn't use, it's the fact that during early releases it floored people. Yet they didnt give a shit. Many bands throughout history tried to be radio friendly or not make a negative scene. Back when Slayer put out Christ Illusion it was like the Slayer of old. I was in Catholic high school at the time and that album and everything to do with slayer quickly got banned after people were printing out copies of the album cover to tape to doors and someone played a clip of Skeleton Christ over the schools PA system during a lunch break <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926387136] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>You can create something without being the most influential. Without sabbath there is no metal genre at least as we currently know it. That doesnt mean they meant the most to the genre in terms of how many bands they directly influenced or how they changed the perception of the genre. Slayer were never afraid to be evil and satanic and push the boundaries while other bands like Metallica played it safe far too often.</quote> Sabbath not only firmly established the genre as a whole, their various sounds set the stage for several different sub genres. The traditional heavy metal, doom metal and thrash metal sub genres all can be traced back to the influence of Black Sabbath. Slayer didn't do nearly as much, they were just a popular thrash band that attracted controversy at a time when metal as a whole was starting to push the whole evil image more and more anyway. "Being evil" is really not that important or significant compared to heavily influencing the development of the entire genre.</quote> Slayer was a major influence on death metal bands that popped up after them. It was important.</quote> They were influential sure but not nearly on the scale of Sabbath, and the argument of "they were evil" is particularly not a good one</quote> It's not that "they were evil" was some sort of talent that others couldn't use, it's the fact that during early releases it floored people. Yet they didnt give a shit. Many bands throughout history tried to be radio friendly or not make a negative scene. Back when Slayer put out Christ Illusion it was like the Slayer of old. I was in Catholic high school at the time and that album and everything to do with slayer quickly got banned after people were printing out copies of the album cover to tape to doors and someone played a clip of Skeleton Christ over the schools PA system during a lunch break</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 08/22/19 12:33:02 AM #70:	Zodd3224 posted... Sure it is. Metal was always rebellious and loud but they took it to even darker places which lead to death metal, black metal, etc. Every big extreme metal band that came after them point to Hell Awaits and Regin in Blood among their biggest inspirations. The quality of the music was important but the darkness of the lyrics, vocals, and atmosphere of their early work is also a huge part of it. It's pretty hard to buy Slayer "being evil" as the single most important and influential thing in all of metal when Venom, another band that a lot of the early death, black and thrash metal bands point to as an influence, was already "being evil" for a few years before they released an album. Venom didn't hit the same level of mainstream recognition sure, but they were still a big part of the push towards more controversial territory (not to mention the raw and unrefined sound that would define those subgenres) and they started on it first. It's nowhere near as easy to find a band that did most of what Black Sabbath did first and influenced a lot of bands in the process. --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:926387190] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote> Sure it is. Metal was always rebellious and loud but they took it to even darker places which lead to death metal, black metal, etc. Every big extreme metal band that came after them point to Hell Awaits and Regin in Blood among their biggest inspirations. The quality of the music was important but the darkness of the lyrics, vocals, and atmosphere of their early work is also a huge part of it.</quote> It's pretty hard to buy Slayer "being evil" as the single most important and influential thing in all of metal when Venom, another band that a lot of the early death, black and thrash metal bands point to as an influence, was already "being evil" for a few years before they released an album. Venom didn't hit the same level of mainstream recognition sure, but they were still a big part of the push towards more controversial territory (not to mention the raw and unrefined sound that would define those subgenres) and they started on it first. It's nowhere near as easy to find a band that did most of what Black Sabbath did first and influenced a lot of bands in the process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 08/22/19 12:35:10 AM #71:	gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me. --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:926387261] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodmoon77 08/22/19 12:41:47 AM #72:	Zodd3224 posted... Bloodmoon77 posted... Avenged sevenfold /topic I actually enjoy Waking the Fallen and the first half of City of Evil. I enjoy everything except their god awful sounding the seventh trumpet. And let's be honest city of evil was every kids wet dream when it came out. --- I wouldn't trust this company with making a cheese sandwich, they'd start an additional kickstarter for the mayo-ssjmatthew on Comcept's MN9 <cite>Bloodmoon77 posted [p:926387465] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Bloodmoon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Avenged sevenfold /topic</quote> I actually enjoy Waking the Fallen and the first half of City of Evil.</quote> I enjoy everything except their god awful sounding the seventh trumpet. And let's be honest city of evil was every kids wet dream when it came out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DD Divine 08/22/19 12:50:54 AM #73:	Iron Maiden --- while driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and I instinctively swerved to miss it, thanks a lot Mario Kart. <cite>DD Divine posted [p:926387736] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Iron Maiden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush 08/22/19 1:06:54 AM #74:	Not a huge fan of the genre, but Maiden's always been my favorite band, so there's my answer. I've given Slayer a few chances, but that thrash sound really didn't do it for me. Maiden's songs tell stories that gradually crescendo into their heavy solos, and I love that. Metal fans, entertain a newb for a moment: would it be accurate to call Maiden among the "least heavy" of the big heavy metal bands? --- Yoblazer https://imgur.com/gByqgPg <cite>CaptainOfCrush posted [p:926388158] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Not a huge fan of the genre, but Maiden's always been my favorite band, so there's my answer. I've given Slayer a few chances, but that thrash sound really didn't do it for me. Maiden's songs tell stories that gradually crescendo into their heavy solos, and I love that. Metal fans, entertain a newb for a moment: would it be accurate to call Maiden among the "least heavy" of the big heavy metal bands? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 08/22/19 1:07:32 AM #75:	pauIie posted... gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me. It was a magical run. I love the new prog rock direction but it's still a little sad sometimes. I get why Mikael wanted to change and he had every right to do whatever the hell he wanted. <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926388174] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me.</quote> It was a magical run. I love the new prog rock direction but it's still a little sad sometimes. I get why Mikael wanted to change and he had every right to do whatever the hell he wanted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fhqwhgads 08/22/19 1:23:52 AM #77:	Bloodmoon77 posted... Zodd3224 posted... Bloodmoon77 posted... Avenged sevenfold /topic I actually enjoy Waking the Fallen and the first half of City of Evil. I enjoy everything except their god awful sounding the seventh trumpet. And let's be honest city of evil was every kids wet dream when it came out. City of evil was like hearing keeper of the seven keys part III --- Everybody to the Limit you can't bxzwlads the fhqwhgads~spudger <cite>fhqwhgads posted [p:926388607] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Bloodmoon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Bloodmoon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Avenged sevenfold /topic</quote> I actually enjoy Waking the Fallen and the first half of City of Evil.</quote> I enjoy everything except their god awful sounding the seventh trumpet. And let's be honest city of evil was every kids wet dream when it came out.</quote> City of evil was like hearing keeper of the seven keys part III</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 08/22/19 1:37:14 AM #78:	70s through 80s.... has to be either Iron Maiden or Judas Priest. Past that... I've really grown attached to Nightwish and Within Temptation as of late. Little bit of Rammstein. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:926388925] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>70s through 80s.... has to be either Iron Maiden or Judas Priest. Past that... I've really grown attached to Nightwish and Within Temptation as of late. Little bit of Rammstein.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/22/19 1:45:41 AM #79:	Judas Priest is probably the most influential overall. Sabbath started metal but Priest defined it and gave it the alchemical spirit that's led to so many subgenres since. Best is subjective but for my personal tastes I'd go with Satan (aka Blind Fury, aka Pariah). Every single release up to present day has been top-tier. Mercyful Fate and King Diamond are pretty close though. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:926389127] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Judas Priest is probably the most influential overall. Sabbath started metal but Priest defined it and gave it the alchemical spirit that's led to so many subgenres since. Best is subjective but for my personal tastes I'd go with Satan (aka Blind Fury, aka Pariah). Every single release up to present day has been top-tier. Mercyful Fate and King Diamond are pretty close though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 08/22/19 1:47:52 AM #80:	Its Dragon Force you swine --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:926389185] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Its Dragon Force you swine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 08/22/19 1:52:30 AM #81:	RoadsterUFO posted... stoltenberg11 posted... whats all this about pantera being awful Theyre just watered down Kings X and Exhorder riffs with a roided brodude redneck shouting N.W.A gangsta rap-esque lyrics. At least after Cowboys From Hell anyway. Good lord are you pretentious <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:926389306] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>stoltenberg11 posted...</cite> <quote>whats all this about pantera being awful</quote> Theyre just watered down Kings X and Exhorder riffs with a roided brodude redneck shouting N.W.A gangsta rap-esque lyrics. At least after Cowboys From Hell anyway.</quote> Good lord are you pretentious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RieTakahash 08/22/19 2:30:45 AM #82:	Black Sabbath Pantera Slayer Lamb of God Behemoth <cite>RieTakahash posted [p:926390159] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Black Sabbath Pantera Slayer Lamb of God Behemoth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 08/22/19 2:33:08 AM #83:	I think Iron Maiden honestly --- Cubs, Rockies, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:926390208] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>I think Iron Maiden honestly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KalimariX8 08/22/19 2:56:08 AM #84:	Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, or Maiden Personal favorite is Between the Buried and Me however --- member of the sam jackson alliance Kalimari <cite>KalimariX8 posted [p:926390685] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, or Maiden Personal favorite is Between the Buried and Me however</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--Zero- 08/22/19 3:51:52 AM #85:	Adding- Rainbow/Dio Danzig Megadeth Parkway Drive Just in case they weren't mentioned already. --- SIGNATURE <cite>--Zero- posted [p:926391585] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Adding- Rainbow/Dio Danzig Megadeth Parkway Drive Just in case they weren't mentioned already. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 7:37:18 AM #86:	LadyVyxx posted... pauIie posted... gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me. It was a magical run. I love the new prog rock direction but it's still a little sad sometimes. I get why Mikael wanted to change and he had every right to do whatever the hell he wanted. The only album I'm a big fan of after Watershed is Pale Communion. The other 2 I can live without. New album seems promising tho. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926394807] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me.</quote> It was a magical run. I love the new prog rock direction but it's still a little sad sometimes. I get why Mikael wanted to change and he had every right to do whatever the hell he wanted.</quote> The only album I'm a big fan of after Watershed is Pale Communion. The other 2 I can live without. New album seems promising tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 08/22/19 8:14:55 AM #87:	Zodd3224 posted... LadyVyxx posted... pauIie posted... gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me. It was a magical run. I love the new prog rock direction but it's still a little sad sometimes. I get why Mikael wanted to change and he had every right to do whatever the hell he wanted. The only album I'm a big fan of after Watershed is Pale Communion. The other 2 I can live without. New album seems promising tho. The post watershed material definitely ismt for everyone and I respect that. Pale Communion is probably a top 3 opeth album for me honestly <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926395554] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>gonna be opeth for me. that stretch of albums from morningrise to watershed is unbeatable. plenty of other bands have reached the same heights but not for as many consecutive albums for me.</quote> It was a magical run. I love the new prog rock direction but it's still a little sad sometimes. I get why Mikael wanted to change and he had every right to do whatever the hell he wanted.</quote> The only album I'm a big fan of after Watershed is Pale Communion. The other 2 I can live without. New album seems promising tho.</quote> The post watershed material definitely ismt for everyone and I respect that. Pale Communion is probably a top 3 opeth album for me honestly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 08/22/19 8:17:44 AM #88:	stoltenberg11 posted... whats all this about pantera being awful People got mad that some folks overrated Dimebag Darrel when he died and the hatred stuck. Everyone thinks all Pantera fans are of the redneck dudebro white trash variety. And my vote is Black Sabbath for reasons already stated. They're my favorite all time band so I'm biased. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:926395621] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>stoltenberg11 posted...</cite> <quote>whats all this about pantera being awful</quote> People got mad that some folks overrated Dimebag Darrel when he died and the hatred stuck. Everyone thinks all Pantera fans are of the redneck dudebro white trash variety. And my vote is Black Sabbath for reasons already stated. They're my favorite all time band so I'm biased.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
warlock7735 08/22/19 8:53:45 AM #89:	Really depends on subgenre. Some of my favorites : Nwobhm: maiden Doom/stoner: stoned Jesus or electric wizard, honorable mention to CoC and DOWN Prog: dream theater, honorable mention to leprosy and allegaeon. Thrash: megadeth Death: either death or necrophagist NWOAHM: lamb of God. -core: black dahlia murder Power : blind guardian Not really well versed in black metal. --- CE Mafia Archive https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u3gaka98zsp3m0e/AADYBrilDyGYhlAbpEnac5d_a?dl=0 <cite>warlock7735 posted [p:926396432] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Really depends on subgenre. Some of my favorites : Nwobhm: maiden Doom/stoner: stoned Jesus or electric wizard, honorable mention to CoC and DOWN Prog: dream theater, honorable mention to leprosy and allegaeon. Thrash: megadeth Death: either death or necrophagist NWOAHM: lamb of God. -core: black dahlia murder Power : blind guardian Not really well versed in black metal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeuralLaxative 08/22/19 11:20:05 AM #91:	Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Metallica are the holy trinity of basic metal. Judas Priest can get thrown in there too but honestly much less familiar with them --- https://imgur.com/rPJnWhf <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:926401040] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Metallica are the holy trinity of basic metal. Judas Priest can get thrown in there too but honestly much less familiar with them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 08/22/19 11:22:46 AM #92:	Well, the best ever death metal band out of Denton never settled on a name. But the top three contenders after weeks of debate were Satan's Fingers, and The Killers, and The Hospital Bombers. --- It feels like they're pretending. It's like they just want blowjobs and they know these songs will get them http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:926401148] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Well, the best ever death metal band out of Denton never settled on a name. But the top three contenders after weeks of debate were Satan's Fingers, and The Killers, and The Hospital Bombers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivany2008 08/22/19 11:53:12 AM #94:	It's really hard for me to think of Metallica as part of the holy Trinity. That whole crap with Lars and Napster kind of put them in a position similar to KISS for me. Great band, but just can't look at them the same. Holy Trinity.... Sabbath, Queensryche and Maiden would probably be my 3. Stratovarious if we're including newer bands. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:926402304] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>It's really hard for me to think of Metallica as part of the holy Trinity. That whole crap with Lars and Napster kind of put them in a position similar to KISS for me. Great band, but just can't look at them the same. Holy Trinity.... Sabbath, Queensryche and Maiden would probably be my 3. Stratovarious if we're including newer bands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/22/19 11:56:41 AM #95:	Metallica are basically a cover band at this point. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:926402422] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Metallica are basically a cover band at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 08/22/19 11:58:47 AM #96:	I haven't listened to slayer since my teenage heydays. South of heaven, Angel of death, Reign in blood, Hollow point, war ensamble, spirits in black, dead skin mask... Monarch to the kingdom of the dead. Infamous, butcher. Angel of death!!!! --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018. Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 99999 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:926402492] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>I haven't listened to slayer since my teenage heydays. South of heaven, Angel of death, Reign in blood, Hollow point, war ensamble, spirits in black, dead skin mask... Monarch to the kingdom of the dead. Infamous, butcher. Angel of death!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KLouD_KoNNeCteD 08/22/19 12:08:47 PM #97:	Darkane Disarmonia Mundi Scar Symmetry Solution .45 Opeth Soilwork In Flames --- hey guys <cite>KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted [p:926402849] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Darkane Disarmonia Mundi Scar Symmetry Solution .45 Opeth Soilwork In Flames</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 08/22/19 12:58:22 PM #98:	Dyinglegacy posted... I haven't listened to slayer since my teenage heydays. South of heaven, Angel of death, Reign in blood, Hollow point, war ensamble, spirits in black, dead skin mask... Monarch to the kingdom of the dead. Infamous, butcher. Angel of death!!!! I'd recommend checking out their Christ Illusion album that came out in 2006. Notable songs being Skeleton Christ, Jihad, Cult <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:926404833] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>I haven't listened to slayer since my teenage heydays. South of heaven, Angel of death, Reign in blood, Hollow point, war ensamble, spirits in black, dead skin mask... Monarch to the kingdom of the dead. Infamous, butcher. Angel of death!!!! </quote> I'd recommend checking out their Christ Illusion album that came out in 2006. Notable songs being Skeleton Christ, Jihad, Cult</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/22/19 1:41:32 PM #99:	LadyVyxx posted... Dyinglegacy posted... I haven't listened to slayer since my teenage heydays. South of heaven, Angel of death, Reign in blood, Hollow point, war ensamble, spirits in black, dead skin mask... Monarch to the kingdom of the dead. Infamous, butcher. Angel of death!!!! I'd recommend checking out their Christ Illusion album that came out in 2006. Notable songs being Skeleton Christ, Jihad, Cult Christ Illusion is okay. I'm much more a fan of Reign in Blood, Seasons in the Abyss, and Hell Awaits. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:926406619] in The best m... [t:77955323]...</cite> <quote>LadyVyxx posted...</cite> <quote>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>I haven't listened to slayer since my teenage heydays. South of heaven, Angel of death, Reign in blood, Hollow point, war ensamble, spirits in black, dead skin mask... Monarch to the kingdom of the dead. Infamous, butcher. Angel of death!!!! </quote> I'd recommend checking out their Christ Illusion album that came out in 2006. Notable songs being Skeleton Christ, Jihad, Cult</quote> Christ Illusion is okay. I'm much more a fan of Reign in Blood, Seasons in the Abyss, and Hell Awaits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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