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clearaflagrantj
07/26/19 12:13:44 PM
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CE I don't see the fucking point anymore. I've had 4 onsite interviews and 3 of them have ended with rejection, the 4th I may get an offer but it's an absolutely shitty role and I'd be miserable there. These people can smell something from me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I am constantly being rejected and I know it's only going to get worse the longer it goes on. I don't see the point in living. I really don't.
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The_Croup
07/26/19 12:14:41 PM
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My dear boy, we require far more context. Is this topic intended as a way of whingeing and mewling, or do you desire feedback and advice?
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deupd_u
07/26/19 12:14:50 PM
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4? Boo freaking hoo.
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CheekSqueak
07/26/19 12:15:24 PM
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4 interviews isn't that many....calm down and keep trying. perhaps begin to accept the fact that you may not love the job you have to do. most people don't.
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voldothegr8
07/26/19 12:17:35 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
These people can smell something from me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong

It has been explained to you numerous times what you do wrong
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Romulox28
07/26/19 12:18:38 PM
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4 interviews in like a month or two is pretty good tbh
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/26/19 12:19:01 PM
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Do you come across as someone who thinks they're the smartest person in the room?
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MarkMahWords
07/26/19 12:21:59 PM
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What kind of position(s) are you applying for?
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
07/26/19 12:24:06 PM
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At least you're getting interviews.

I can't even remember the last time I had one.
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Rigama
07/26/19 12:24:54 PM
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4? Come on bro
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clearaflagrantj
07/26/19 12:25:37 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...

It has been explained to you numerous times what you do wrong

Some fucking generic personality bulllshit from armchair psychologists that have all the answers for everyone else's lives but not their own of course. Were you in the fucking interview room? No? Then how the fuck do you know why I failed. Jesus fucking christ.

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Do you come across as someone who thinks they're the smartest person in the room?

No I come across as the desperate fucking moron that shows up to interviews believing he has an actual fucking chance when all that happens is I get rejected with either no explanation or some fucking bullshit excuse.

MarkMahWords posted...
What kind of position(s) are you applying for?

At this point anything technical.
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clearaflagrantj
07/26/19 12:28:18 PM
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
At least you're getting interviews.

I can't even remember the last time I had one.

No this feels worse because I know these companies are looking to hire me and I clearly passed the phone screenings and know I have the qualifications, so when I go to these interviews I am doing something that makes them go from "I want to hire you" to "I don't want to hire you."

I don't even fucking get it. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I show up to these interviews in a suit, I bring a portfolio of my work, I answer the questions they have, I create dialogues with them to make it a conversation about how I would fit in well and how my experience would serve their company well. I'm not going into these interviews wearing fucking jeans, or calling the interviewer a bro, or chewing gum or some shit.

What am I doing wrong to fail, I just want to have a legitimate reason, I will never get it, I'll just continue to fail over and over and over and over again
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MarkMahWords
07/26/19 12:35:49 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
At least you're getting interviews.

I can't even remember the last time I had one.

No this feels worse because I know these companies are looking to hire me and I clearly passed the phone screenings and know I have the qualifications, so when I go to these interviews I am doing something that makes them go from "I want to hire you" to "I don't want to hire you."

I don't even fucking get it. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I show up to these interviews in a suit, I bring a portfolio of my work, I answer the questions they have, I create dialogues with them to make it a conversation about how I would fit in well and how my experience would serve their company well. I'm not going into these interviews wearing fucking jeans, or calling the interviewer a bro, or chewing gum or some shit.

What am I doing wrong to fail, I just want to have a legitimate reason, I will never get it, I'll just continue to fail over and over and over and over again


What exactly are the positions you're getting interviews for? Manufacturing for instance is going to require a different mindset from something like engineering. Does the company have a technical interview portion to showcase your problem solving skills? Or is it strictly behavioral? Is your interview pipeline mostly through recruiters or are you talking to actual engineering staff?

I recently acquired a software dev position, and I can still remember what the general impressions were to certain question types, so hopefully I can provide some help for you if I can get some more insight into your situation.
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voldothegr8
07/26/19 12:39:27 PM
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Don't bother, he won't listen to anyone's advice anyway
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teepan95
07/26/19 12:41:00 PM
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Should've networked when you had the chance m8
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clearaflagrantj
07/26/19 12:48:08 PM
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MarkMahWords posted...

What exactly are the positions you're getting interviews for? Manufacturing for instance is going to require a different mindset from something like engineering. Does the company have a technical interview portion to showcase your problem solving skills? Or is it strictly behavioral? Is your interview pipeline mostly through recruiters or are you talking to actual engineering staff?

Honestly what the fuck are you going to tell me

Manufacturing is focused on OEE and 6Sigma, engineering is more creative problem solving and new ideas

HR interviews I need to play the game and show I'd get along with the company culture, technical assessment from engineers I need to show that I care more about collaboration and solving technical problems

I am so fucking burnt out with this God damn song and dance. Companies would be a whole lot more successful if they didn't waste time and resources on looking for a fucking unicorn and then putting them through a detrimental and wasteful interview process that only disqualifies good candidates for inane reasons like "he touched his face too often" or "his handshake wasn't strong enough." Maybe instead of looking for your unicorn you make your company better and reward your employees to make them stay. You think Costco or Chik Fil A simply hires better people than Walmart or McDonald's? Fuck no it's the environment they promote that makes the employees enjoy working there.

Just fuck it. Fuck it fuck it fuck it fuck it fuck it fuck it I fucking hate it.
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JBaLLEN66
07/26/19 12:52:29 PM
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I cant even get a phone screen
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ArchiePeck
07/26/19 1:03:29 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
voldothegr8 posted...

It has been explained to you numerous times what you do wrong

Some fucking generic personality bulllshit from armchair psychologists that have all the answers for everyone else's lives but not their own of course. Were you in the fucking interview room? No? Then how the fuck do you know why I failed. Jesus fucking christ.


You told us in a topic yesterday, which I remember because I posted in it, that you spoke to an HR person in a way that was clearly going to sour them on you if it was a close choice between you and another candidate. It was explained to you how you need to "play the game" up until the moment you put pen to paper and sign your contract.
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MarkMahWords
07/26/19 1:15:58 PM
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Okay dude I tried to be polite as possible because I understand how stressful the job hunt is; I was unemployed for awhile before getting my break...messed up on interviews, applications everything you name it. If this is how you respond to people trying to provide feedback, then I think it's pretty evident you aren't ready for to work in industry.
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clearaflagrantj
07/26/19 1:24:16 PM
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MarkMahWords posted...
Okay dude I tried to be polite as possible because I understand how stressful the job hunt is; I was unemployed for awhile before getting my break...messed up on interviews, applications everything you name it. If this is how you respond to people trying to provide feedback, then I think it's pretty evident you aren't ready for to work in industry.

Yep, there it is, "oh his posting style on CE is quite abrasive! That explains every single facet of his life"
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MarkMahWords
07/26/19 1:27:53 PM
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Whatever man, best of luck to you.
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CheekSqueak
07/26/19 1:28:43 PM
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who hurt you tc?
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Goats
07/26/19 1:32:21 PM
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Well I ended up getting a job today so that's good news.

Sorry about your bad luck though
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PoopPotato
07/26/19 1:33:36 PM
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Did you buy them donuts?
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Jiggy101011
07/26/19 1:36:05 PM
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Maybe they like your resume and you, but after the sit down interview they are calling your past job and hearing how miserable you were there?
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I Like Toast
07/26/19 1:40:38 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
I don't know what I'm doing wrong


Well then there is one of two problems. You have zero self awareness or are just clueless. Neither of which say this is a good candidate.
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clearaflagrantj
07/26/19 1:44:01 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
I don't know what I'm doing wrong


Well then there is one of two problems. You have zero self awareness or are just clueless. Neither of which say this is a good candidate.

I can't wait to add you to my block list

Jiggy101011 posted...
Maybe they like your resume and you, but after the sit down interview they are calling your past job and hearing how miserable you were there?

No past employer would do that it would expose them to potential lawsuits
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CheekSqueak
07/26/19 1:50:37 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
No past employer would do that it would expose them to potential lawsuits

LOL wut?
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clearaflagrantj
07/26/19 1:54:52 PM
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CheekSqueak posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
No past employer would do that it would expose them to potential lawsuits

LOL wut?

If they say anything that's not truthful that harms a former employee's chances of being hired they can potentially get sued; that is why most employers only disclose the start date, end date, and salary
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Twin3Turbo
07/26/19 2:01:24 PM
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Have you ever considered working for yourself? I have two side businesses in addition to my professional job. The side job that pays me on a daily basis is tutoring. I tutor people in everything Algebra 2 and below, as well as the SAT/ACT math section and college Algebra.

Literally charge people $60+ per hour, with no shortage of clients willing to pay for it. Maybe that's something you could try to get into? That's something that you can literally get into at the speed of now and there is almost no cost associated with it other than gas and maybe sometimes printing material out for students.
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TheGoldenEel
07/26/19 2:01:57 PM
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Sounds like youre getting to the interview stage which is the hardest part. Four interviews in a short time is great

Regarding this potential offer that you think you wont like: sometimes you have to settle for things to build your resume

I had real bad grades coming out of college (in your case, the comparable is being fired I guess) so I worked an unrelated-to-my-degree job for years, not something I hated but certainly something I hadnt seen myself doing. And that gave me experience that allowed me to find a job I love (so far) recently. Being employed also really helps with job searching because youre not so desperate to find work

At worst, just recognize with your supposed savings youre much better off than most people whove recently been fired
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CheekSqueak
07/26/19 2:03:36 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
CheekSqueak posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
No past employer would do that it would expose them to potential lawsuits

LOL wut?

If they say anything that's not truthful that harms a former employee's chances of being hired they can potentially get sued; that is why most employers only disclose the start date, end date, and salary

you made it pretty clear you were unhappy in your previous job so it wouldn't be an issue.
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Daffadilio
07/26/19 2:14:31 PM
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Ive had god awful luck in TN too, got let go from a job after two months of being there when I first moved out here and havent been able to get back into medical since. Ive had some really good interviews too that I was genuinely shocked about when they never called me back. I have no problem getting interviews but then dont hear back, usually seems like they prefer to go with a person with a degree over experience and thats nothing I can fix right now. But I will say being let go really messed with my confidence, so I cant even deny not every interview was a great one, when usually I interview really well.
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REMercsChamp
07/26/19 6:25:44 PM
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TC it sounds like you haven't learned anything from your last firing

They can probably sense it in the interview - that you're going to get up at 3am to work out for 4 hours then drag your tired ass into work and zone out and spin in a chair all day in a disengaged manner.
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50Blessings
07/26/19 6:27:39 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
I may get an offer but it's an absolutely shitty role and I'd be miserable there.


Jesus Christ, you are hopeless. You're going to be miserable anywhere. Either change careers or be a bum IDK what you want us to tell you at this point.
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MabusIncarnate
07/26/19 6:31:53 PM
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So why even bother posting this thread at all? Are you just aiming to lash out on the people trying to help you? I remember the last post you made about this and you were equally as thick and inconsiderate to everyone. Now you are insulting the people who made an attempt to help that you refused to listen to.

Go work at McDonalds for all I care. Good luck with your miserable personality and approach.
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