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Lebronwon 07/14/19 5:01:22 PM #1:	https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fear-ice-raids-leads-some-u-s-citizens-carry-their-n1029621 With immigration raids expected to begin Sunday in at least nine major cities, some U.S. citizens are taking precautions, including carrying their American passports at all times, to avoid being mistakenly detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents. The wary Americans, often Latinos, said they don't want to get swept up in the planned roundups announced by President Donald Trump. "I was born in this country," said David Cruz, communications director for the League of United Latin American Citizens. "Im a third-generation Texan. Ive been carrying a passport since the day he was elected." Passports, used by international travelers to return to the United States, are legal proof of citizenship. A Los Angeles journalist from Latin America, who did not want his name used out of fear his passport would be flagged, said he began carrying the document with him this weekend. Naturalized in the 2000s, he said recent stories of citizens mistakenly detained by ICE made him think he could be wrongly targeted. He said it poses a particular quandary for naturalized citizens with accents because ICE agents may believe they are in the U.S. illegally and not afford them the rights of Americans, including due process, access to a lawyer and leaving their homes without proof of citizenship. "Its creating a two-tier system with second-class citizens, people who can be detained without access to a lawyer unless theyre carrying a federal ID," the journalist said. "I was pointing out to my friends, hey, heres my passport, and Im carrying it for the first time because I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage,'" he said. "I'm literally worried about my pets and about paying my rent." --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:924683238] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fear-ice-raids-leads-some-u-s-citizens-carry-their-n1029621 With immigration raids expected to begin Sunday in at least nine major cities, some U.S. citizens are taking precautions, including carrying their American passports at all times, to avoid being mistakenly detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents. The wary Americans, often Latinos, said they don't want to get swept up in the planned roundups announced by President Donald Trump. "I was born in this country," said David Cruz, communications director for the League of United Latin American Citizens. "Im a third-generation Texan. Ive been carrying a passport since the day he was elected." Passports, used by international travelers to return to the United States, are legal proof of citizenship. A Los Angeles journalist from Latin America, who did not want his name used out of fear his passport would be flagged, said he began carrying the document with him this weekend. Naturalized in the 2000s, he said recent stories of citizens mistakenly detained by ICE made him think he could be wrongly targeted. He said it poses a particular quandary for naturalized citizens with accents because ICE agents may believe they are in the U.S. illegally and not afford them the rights of Americans, including due process, access to a lawyer and leaving their homes without proof of citizenship. "Its creating a two-tier system with second-class citizens, people who can be detained without access to a lawyer unless theyre carrying a federal ID," the journalist said. "I was pointing out to my friends, hey, heres my passport, and Im carrying it for the first time because I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage,'" he said. "I'm literally worried about my pets and about paying my rent."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 07/14/19 5:02:11 PM #2:	Pretty soon you'll have to professor your loyalty to Trump at gunpoint or face the ICE camp. <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:924683270] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Pretty soon you'll have to professor your loyalty to Trump at gunpoint or face the ICE camp.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 07/14/19 5:04:39 PM #3:	Trump's America --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:924683366] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Trump's America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreezerDoor 07/14/19 5:04:59 PM #4:	Lebronwon posted... I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street. --- Edmonton Oilers winning a draft is like giving a homeless person money but knowing they are going to spend it on drugs and alcohol- Xunolix <cite>FreezerDoor posted [p:924683382] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage</quote> Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thrashmetal14 07/14/19 5:05:06 PM #5:	Goodbye 4th amendment, it was nice knowing ya <cite>thrashmetal14 posted [p:924683388] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Goodbye 4th amendment, it was nice knowing ya</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 07/14/19 5:06:21 PM #6:	I'm white as hell and always have my passport ID on me. Though I am vehemently against anyone in America needing "papers". --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:924683437] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>I'm white as hell and always have my passport ID on me. Though I am vehemently against anyone in America needing "papers".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 07/14/19 5:06:42 PM #7:	Do u think all the 2nd Amendment gun nuts will do anything about this or do you think they wont care because its happening to people of color --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:924683448] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Do u think all the 2nd Amendment gun nuts will do anything about this or do you think they wont care because its happening to people of color</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 07/14/19 5:06:58 PM #8:	You are not required to have ID on you. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:924683464] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>You are not required to have ID on you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/14/19 5:07:26 PM #9:	FreezerDoor posted... Lebronwon posted... I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street. They've detained people wrongfully in the past who have then been forced to prove their citizenship, so in short, yes they can. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:924683487] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>FreezerDoor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage</quote> Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street.</quote> They've detained people wrongfully in the past who have then been forced to prove their citizenship, so in short, yes they can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 07/14/19 5:07:33 PM #10:	Alteres posted... I'm white as hell and always have my passport ID on me. Though I am vehemently against anyone in America needing "papers". Wait until your income will determine your movement through the big dystopian cities. Donald Trump Jr. will be allowed to be in the sector with flowers and sunshine while most people will be huddled into the black smoke and cramped slums. Coming to America soon enough. <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:924683491] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alteres posted...</cite> <quote>I'm white as hell and always have my passport ID on me. Though I am vehemently against anyone in America needing "papers".</quote> Wait until your income will determine your movement through the big dystopian cities. Donald Trump Jr. will be allowed to be in the sector with flowers and sunshine while most people will be huddled into the black smoke and cramped slums. Coming to America soon enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 5:08:35 PM #11:	I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924683543] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 07/14/19 5:08:46 PM #12:	FreezerDoor posted... Lebronwon posted... I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street. They were doing this even before the raids. "ID is expired and invalid, social security doesn't count, where's your passport? Don't have it? You're coming with us." --- I exist, kind of. Two halves that don't make a whole. Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:924683549] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>FreezerDoor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage</quote> Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street.</quote> They were doing this even before the raids. "ID is expired and invalid, social security doesn't count, where's your passport? Don't have it? You're coming with us."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 07/14/19 5:16:45 PM #13:	People should be able to defend themselves against ice. If you feel you're in danger and they intend to do harm, it should be ok to pull out your gun and shoot. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/nDVyBfn.gif <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:924683838] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>People should be able to defend themselves against ice. If you feel you're in danger and they intend to do harm, it should be ok to pull out your gun and shoot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zen-move 07/14/19 5:24:17 PM #14:	Lebronwon posted... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fear-ice-raids-leads-some-u-s-citizens-carry-their-n1029621 With immigration raids expected to begin Sunday in at least nine major cities, some U.S. citizens are taking precautions, including carrying their American passports at all times, to avoid being mistakenly detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents. The wary Americans, often Latinos, said they don't want to get swept up in the planned roundups announced by President Donald Trump. "I was born in this country," said David Cruz, communications director for the League of United Latin American Citizens. "Im a third-generation Texan. Ive been carrying a passport since the day he was elected." Passports, used by international travelers to return to the United States, are legal proof of citizenship. A Los Angeles journalist from Latin America, who did not want his name used out of fear his passport would be flagged, said he began carrying the document with him this weekend. Naturalized in the 2000s, he said recent stories of citizens mistakenly detained by ICE made him think he could be wrongly targeted. He said it poses a particular quandary for naturalized citizens with accents because ICE agents may believe they are in the U.S. illegally and not afford them the rights of Americans, including due process, access to a lawyer and leaving their homes without proof of citizenship. "Its creating a two-tier system with second-class citizens, people who can be detained without access to a lawyer unless theyre carrying a federal ID," the journalist said. "I was pointing out to my friends, hey, heres my passport, and Im carrying it for the first time because I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage,'" he said. "I'm literally worried about my pets and about paying my rent." What does this mean? <cite>Zen-move posted [p:924684116] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fear-ice-raids-leads-some-u-s-citizens-carry-their-n1029621 With immigration raids expected to begin Sunday in at least nine major cities, some U.S. citizens are taking precautions, including carrying their American passports at all times, to avoid being mistakenly detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents. The wary Americans, often Latinos, said they don't want to get swept up in the planned roundups announced by President Donald Trump. "I was born in this country," said David Cruz, communications director for the League of United Latin American Citizens. "Im a third-generation Texan. Ive been carrying a passport since the day he was elected." Passports, used by international travelers to return to the United States, are legal proof of citizenship. A Los Angeles journalist from Latin America, who did not want his name used out of fear his passport would be flagged, said he began carrying the document with him this weekend. Naturalized in the 2000s, he said recent stories of citizens mistakenly detained by ICE made him think he could be wrongly targeted. He said it poses a particular quandary for naturalized citizens with accents because ICE agents may believe they are in the U.S. illegally and not afford them the rights of Americans, including due process, access to a lawyer and leaving their homes without proof of citizenship. "Its creating a two-tier system with second-class citizens, people who can be detained without access to a lawyer unless theyre carrying a federal ID," the journalist said. "I was pointing out to my friends, hey, heres my passport, and Im carrying it for the first time because I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage,'" he said. "I'm literally worried about my pets and about paying my rent."</quote> What does this mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zen-move 07/14/19 5:26:02 PM #15:	nativengine posted... I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times. Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol <cite>Zen-move posted [p:924684191] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times.</quote> Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 5:26:25 PM #16:	LightningAce11 posted... People should be able to defend themselves against ice. If you feel you're in danger and they intend to do harm, it should be ok to pull out your gun and shoot. Ridiculous statement but whats stopping them? I mean, the worst that can happen is you get killed. And you wonder why the police are so quick to react with deadly force when we got people like you around who have this mindset. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924684208] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>People should be able to defend themselves against ice. If you feel you're in danger and they intend to do harm, it should be ok to pull out your gun and shoot.</quote> Ridiculous statement but whats stopping them? I mean, the worst that can happen is you get killed. And you wonder why the police are so quick to react with deadly force when we got people like you around who have this mindset.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 07/14/19 5:27:29 PM #17:	i gotta start carrying my passport around now, i dont want to be picked up by ice in nyc --- Hello. <cite>Awesome posted [p:924684249] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>i gotta start carrying my passport around now, i dont want to be picked up by ice in nyc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 5:29:35 PM #18:	Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times. Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924684337] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times.</quote> Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol</quote> I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZEROWOLF 07/14/19 5:34:02 PM #19:	FreezerDoor posted... Lebronwon posted... I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street. Dang. For reals yo! I need to get my passport asap. Would a concealed carry permit work or a Texas TWIC card? You have to get fingerprinted for those. --- Sam and Robert are the hitch-hikers on the road. --Necronomicon incantation (The Evil Dead) <cite>ZEROWOLF posted [p:924684496] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>FreezerDoor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>I dont want someone to stop me to say, 'Prove you're a citizen right now or well throw you in a cage</quote> Wait ICE can do that? I might start carrying a passport too I'd be fucked. I don't know how I would be able to prove it if I got stopped on the street.</quote> Dang. For reals yo! I need to get my passport asap. Would a concealed carry permit work or a Texas TWIC card? You have to get fingerprinted for those.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zen-move 07/14/19 5:34:42 PM #20:	nativengine posted... Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times. Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions. This happened <cite>Zen-move posted [p:924684522] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times.</quote> Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol</quote> I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions.</quote> This happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 07/14/19 5:34:56 PM #21:	Funny how some people obey the law --- Ironically, the best kart racer to ever grace a Nintendo console is indeed a PSX era classic - Crash Team Racing - IGN <cite>Yao posted [p:924684530] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Funny how some people obey the law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 5:45:27 PM #22:	@Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times. Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions. This happened More often than youd think guy. I cross the US/Canada border all the time. If youve ever done that, the very first question asked is citizenship?. This is not a false statement, right? My answer is always the same but every so often I get a border officer who wants details so I oblige accordingly. I must ask, are you a Native American who crosses the border regularly? Or just someone who crosses the border regularly? If not, dont act like you have any clue on what I said. Im not playing the victim here, rather, Im doing what I was raised to do and be 100% truthful to people who can lawfully detain me if they see fit. Im not trying to start a fight with them, just providing all pertinent information. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924684936] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times.</quote> Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol</quote> I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions.</quote> This happened</quote> More often than youd think guy. I cross the US/Canada border all the time. If youve ever done that, the very first question asked is citizenship?. This is not a false statement, right? My answer is always the same but every so often I get a border officer who wants details so I oblige accordingly. I must ask, are you a Native American who crosses the border regularly? Or just someone who crosses the border regularly? If not, dont act like you have any clue on what I said. Im not playing the victim here, rather, Im doing what I was raised to do and be 100% truthful to people who can lawfully detain me if they see fit. Im not trying to start a fight with them, just providing all pertinent information.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RescueBC 07/14/19 5:53:02 PM #23:	FursonaNonGrata posted... Do u think all the 2nd Amendment gun nuts will do anything about this or do you think they wont care because its happening to people of color They always claim to be defenders of the constitution against a corrupt government if need be but theyre obviously doing a shitty job of defending anything. Might as well just admit they just want to have guns and thats the only reason they fight for them. --- 3DS friend code: 5455-9623-0727 <cite>RescueBC posted [p:924685227] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>FursonaNonGrata posted...</cite> <quote>Do u think all the 2nd Amendment gun nuts will do anything about this or do you think they wont care because its happening to people of color</quote> They always claim to be defenders of the constitution against a corrupt government if need be but theyre obviously doing a shitty job of defending anything. Might as well just admit they just want to have guns and thats the only reason they fight for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zen-move 07/14/19 5:56:45 PM #24:	nativengine posted... @Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times. Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions. This happened More often than youd think guy. I cross the US/Canada border all the time. If youve ever done that, the very first question asked is citizenship?. This is not a false statement, right? My answer is always the same but every so often I get a border officer who wants details so I oblige accordingly. I must ask, are you a Native American who crosses the border regularly? Or just someone who crosses the border regularly? If not, dont act like you have any clue on what I said. Im not playing the victim here, rather, Im doing what I was raised to do and be 100% truthful to people who can lawfully detain me if they see fit. Im not trying to start a fight with them, just providing all pertinent information. The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well <cite>Zen-move posted [p:924685352] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times.</quote> Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol</quote> I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions.</quote> This happened</quote> More often than youd think guy. I cross the US/Canada border all the time. If youve ever done that, the very first question asked is citizenship?. This is not a false statement, right? My answer is always the same but every so often I get a border officer who wants details so I oblige accordingly. I must ask, are you a Native American who crosses the border regularly? Or just someone who crosses the border regularly? If not, dont act like you have any clue on what I said. Im not playing the victim here, rather, Im doing what I was raised to do and be 100% truthful to people who can lawfully detain me if they see fit. Im not trying to start a fight with them, just providing all pertinent information.</quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 5:58:09 PM #25:	RescueBC posted... FursonaNonGrata posted... Do u think all the 2nd Amendment gun nuts will do anything about this or do you think they wont care because its happening to people of color They always claim to be defenders of the constitution against a corrupt government if need be but theyre obviously doing a shitty job of defending anything. Might as well just admit they just want to have guns and thats the only reason they fight for them. Why in the blue fuck would I take up arms against them in this situation? If those being detained want to raise arm and against them so be it. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924685397] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FursonaNonGrata posted...</cite> <quote>Do u think all the 2nd Amendment gun nuts will do anything about this or do you think they wont care because its happening to people of color</quote> They always claim to be defenders of the constitution against a corrupt government if need be but theyre obviously doing a shitty job of defending anything. Might as well just admit they just want to have guns and thats the only reason they fight for them.</quote> Why in the blue fuck would I take up arms against them in this situation? If those being detained want to raise arm and against them so be it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grischnak 07/14/19 6:06:36 PM #26:	Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. <cite>Grischnak posted [p:924685699] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 6:11:58 PM #27:	Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... @Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times. Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions. This happened More often than youd think guy. I cross the US/Canada border all the time. If youve ever done that, the very first question asked is citizenship?. This is not a false statement, right? My answer is always the same but every so often I get a border officer who wants details so I oblige accordingly. I must ask, are you a Native American who crosses the border regularly? Or just someone who crosses the border regularly? If not, dont act like you have any clue on what I said. Im not playing the victim here, rather, Im doing what I was raised to do and be 100% truthful to people who can lawfully detain me if they see fit. Im not trying to start a fight with them, just providing all pertinent information. The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well Really, thats how you interpret what I said? Im literally staring my status, that isnt all. Im not some bullshit free inhabitant. Im a citizen of both the US and Canada and I abide by both of their laws. Ive never conducted myself in an inappropriate manner to any police officer or border enforcement and Ive never once been mistreated by them. What a fucking ignorant thing for you to say. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924685919] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I carry my enhanced drivers license, Canadian driver license and Native American status card with me at all times.</quote> Great for proving foreign (Canadian) status lol</quote> I actually always claim North American. I never say US or Canadian citizen. This sometimes leads to the where do you have residence? To which I reply St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada That instantly ends the questions.</quote> This happened</quote> More often than youd think guy. I cross the US/Canada border all the time. If youve ever done that, the very first question asked is citizenship?. This is not a false statement, right? My answer is always the same but every so often I get a border officer who wants details so I oblige accordingly. I must ask, are you a Native American who crosses the border regularly? Or just someone who crosses the border regularly? If not, dont act like you have any clue on what I said. Im not playing the victim here, rather, Im doing what I was raised to do and be 100% truthful to people who can lawfully detain me if they see fit. Im not trying to start a fight with them, just providing all pertinent information.</quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well</quote> Really, thats how you interpret what I said? Im literally staring my status, that isnt all. Im not some bullshit free inhabitant. Im a citizen of both the US and Canada and I abide by both of their laws. Ive never conducted myself in an inappropriate manner to any police officer or border enforcement and Ive never once been mistreated by them. What a fucking ignorant thing for you to say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/14/19 6:38:54 PM #28:	puerto ricans should do it too it seems they are often mistaken for illegal immigrants --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924687012] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>puerto ricans should do it too it seems they are often mistaken for illegal immigrants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 6:44:38 PM #29:	@Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924687222] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 07/14/19 6:48:43 PM #30:	"Your papers, please" <cite>CommonStar posted [p:924687402] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>"Your papers, please"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 07/14/19 6:50:30 PM #31:	nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside --- Ironically, the best kart racer to ever grace a Nintendo console is indeed a PSX era classic - Crash Team Racing - IGN <cite>Yao posted [p:924687476] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/14/19 6:53:00 PM #32:	Glory to Arstotzka --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924687582] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Glory to Arstotzka</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/14/19 6:55:04 PM #33:	nativengine posted... LightningAce11 posted... People should be able to defend themselves against ice. If you feel you're in danger and they intend to do harm, it should be ok to pull out your gun and shoot. Ridiculous statement but whats stopping them? I mean, the worst that can happen is you get killed. And you wonder why the police are so quick to react with deadly force when we got people like you around who have this mindset. Why shouldn't people be able to defend themselves against all attackers? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924687652] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>People should be able to defend themselves against ice. If you feel you're in danger and they intend to do harm, it should be ok to pull out your gun and shoot.</quote> Ridiculous statement but whats stopping them? I mean, the worst that can happen is you get killed. And you wonder why the police are so quick to react with deadly force when we got people like you around who have this mindset.</quote> Why shouldn't people be able to defend themselves against all attackers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 07/14/19 6:56:05 PM #34:	Instead of carrying around their passport they should carry around guns. If rights are violated we have the right to protect ourselves. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:924687684] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Instead of carrying around their passport they should carry around guns. If rights are violated we have the right to protect ourselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zen-move 07/14/19 6:59:36 PM #35:	nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. They simply ask u if youre a us citizen. Its yes or no. Giving them a 5 minute roundabout about your tribes and their territories is how you get sovereign citizend one of these days <cite>Zen-move posted [p:924687838] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> They simply ask u if youre a us citizen. Its yes or no. Giving them a 5 minute roundabout about your tribes and their territories is how you get sovereign citizend one of these days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 7:36:27 PM #36:	Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924689295] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zen-move 07/14/19 7:49:46 PM #37:	nativengine posted... Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. Again, if youre ever asked, this is how you get sovereign citizend <cite>Zen-move posted [p:924689878] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> Again, if youre ever asked, this is how you get sovereign citizend</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 07/14/19 7:53:17 PM #38:	nativengine posted... Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. Are you the guy who sold solar panels? I remember a guy who moved from Detroit to AZ to do that. --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:924690019] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> Are you the guy who sold solar panels? I remember a guy who moved from Detroit to AZ to do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 8:01:26 PM #39:	berlyman101 posted... nativengine posted... Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. Are you the guy who sold solar panels? I remember a guy who moved from Detroit to AZ to do that. Thats absolutely me, unless there another native doing the same thing, in which case Id like to meet and do business. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924690353] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>berlyman101 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> Are you the guy who sold solar panels? I remember a guy who moved from Detroit to AZ to do that.</quote> Thats absolutely me, unless there another native doing the same thing, in which case Id like to meet and do business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 8:06:50 PM #40:	Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. Again, if youre ever asked, this is how you get sovereign citizend But why? Explain that part to me. Because Ive never said Im a sovereign citizen. I cross borders not just to and from the US/Canada but Im China, Ukraine, UAE and others like the UK and Australia. My response makes me a sovereign citizen? Why does my Native status make me a sovereign citizen? Youve yet to explain that to me. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924690600] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> Again, if youre ever asked, this is how you get sovereign citizend</quote> But why? Explain that part to me. Because Ive never said Im a sovereign citizen. I cross borders not just to and from the US/Canada but Im China, Ukraine, UAE and others like the UK and Australia. My response makes me a sovereign citizen? Why does my Native status make me a sovereign citizen? Youve yet to explain that to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 07/14/19 8:09:26 PM #41:	Round em up and send them home. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:924690714] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Round em up and send them home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 8:21:20 PM #43:	Zen-move posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. They simply ask u if youre a us citizen. Its yes or no. Giving them a 5 minute roundabout about your tribes and their territories is how you get sovereign citizend one of these days I dont , I simply say North American Indian and they say ok If I have to explain further Ive literally documented to you how I respond. Is my response not to your liking? Have I been asked further? Of course but again, Ive said, in detail how I have/would respond. These people have every right to stop me from crossing, I accept that and respond appropriately. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924691261] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> They simply ask u if youre a us citizen. Its yes or no. Giving them a 5 minute roundabout about your tribes and their territories is how you get sovereign citizend one of these days</quote> I dont , I simply say North American Indian and they say ok If I have to explain further Ive literally documented to you how I respond. Is my response not to your liking? Have I been asked further? Of course but again, Ive said, in detail how I have/would respond. These people have every right to stop me from crossing, I accept that and respond appropriately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 07/14/19 8:21:49 PM #44:	Damn, that's messed up. I'm pretty strongly against illegal immigration, but the way we conduct ourselves dealing with the problem reflects the values of our nation. We need to be better than this. Legal US citizens shouldn't fear deportation because our ICE agents are crazy and shit at their jobs. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:924691291] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>Damn, that's messed up. I'm pretty strongly against illegal immigration, but the way we conduct ourselves dealing with the problem reflects the values of our nation. We need to be better than this. Legal US citizens shouldn't fear deportation because our ICE agents are crazy and shit at their jobs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evil_zombie11 07/14/19 8:24:18 PM #45:	hockeybub89 posted... Glory to Arstotzka "No papers? I spit on you!!" --- Well, what do you expect? I'm an evil zombie... https://imgur.com/Iqo9r37 <--- Me, I'm this guy. <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:924691410] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Glory to Arstotzka</quote> "No papers? I spit on you!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 07/14/19 8:35:56 PM #47:	SwaggieBelle462 posted... Some states and cities like New Mexico have allowed illegals to obtain Driver IDs which have to lead to bullshit such as citizens needing passports just to fly to other states ugh That leadership that allowed this nonsense is no longer there but the damage is still ongoing. Yeah I definitely don't agree with that. We shouldn't be making it easier for illegals to stay here. Especially at the expense of US citizens. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:924691901] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>SwaggieBelle462 posted...</cite> <quote>Some states and cities like New Mexico have allowed illegals to obtain Driver IDs which have to lead to bullshit such as citizens needing passports just to fly to other states ugh That leadership that allowed this nonsense is no longer there but the damage is still ongoing.</quote> Yeah I definitely don't agree with that. We shouldn't be making it easier for illegals to stay here. Especially at the expense of US citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 07/14/19 8:46:32 PM #48:	>implying ICE will care Corrupt pieces of shit will find any excuse, they're still pigs at heart. Be careful out there. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:924692408] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>>implying ICE will care Corrupt pieces of shit will find any excuse, they're still pigs at heart. Be careful out there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 07/14/19 8:53:17 PM #49:	nativengine posted... Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. So you're American and you're from Michigan. Just answer the boarder people with a simple response. --- Ironically, the best kart racer to ever grace a Nintendo console is indeed a PSX era classic - Crash Team Racing - IGN <cite>Yao posted [p:924692731] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> So you're American and you're from Michigan. Just answer the boarder people with a simple response.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 9:23:02 PM #50:	@Yao posted... nativengine posted... Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. So you're American and you're from Michigan. Just answer the boarder people with a simple response. So let me get this straight. My response of North American Indian isnt a simple response? Because its an acceptable response at the border for the most part, very rarely do I need to elaborate. Im going to present you with a simple question. Is North American Indian not a simple response? Very simple, and in my experience, acceptable response. Is it not? And if Im asked to elaborate, I do. But is North American Indian not an accepted response to you? Simple question --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924694032] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> So you're American and you're from Michigan. Just answer the boarder people with a simple response.</quote> So let me get this straight. My response of North American Indian isnt a simple response? Because its an acceptable response at the border for the most part, very rarely do I need to elaborate. Im going to present you with a simple question. Is North American Indian not a simple response? Very simple, and in my experience, acceptable response. Is it not? And if Im asked to elaborate, I do. But is North American Indian not an accepted response to you? Simple question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 07/14/19 9:24:21 PM #51:	nativengine posted... @Yao posted... nativengine posted... Yao posted... nativengine posted... @Grischnak posted... @Zen-move posted... The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive. I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested. What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security. So you're American and you're from Michigan. Just answer the boarder people with a simple response. So let me get this straight. My response of North American Indian isnt a simple response? Because its an acceptable response at the border for the most part, very rarely do I need to elaborate. Im going to present you with a simple question. Is North American Indian not a simple response? Very simple, and in my experience, acceptable response. Is it not? And if Im asked to elaborate, I do. But is North American Indian not an accepted response to you? Simple question Where are you from- I'm from Michigan sir You were born and reside in Michigan, you're from Michigan --- Ironically, the best kart racer to ever grace a Nintendo console is indeed a PSX era classic - Crash Team Racing - IGN <cite>Yao posted [p:924694087] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Zen-move posted...</cite> <quote> The antics you described are the equivalent of what those sovereign citizens do, like I am a free human, not a man. Youre restricting my liberty of movement to cops. It never ends well </quote> God I love watching sovereign citizen arrest videos. They are some of the dumbest people alive.</quote> I love those videos too. My favorite is the girl crying about free inhabitants and you need to check your laws, call your superior, legit love that. But Im not one of them. I am a compliant person more than willing to provide identification. Its actually fucked up you guys would even equate me to them. I abide by both countries laws and I 100% comply when asked. Now Im curious why You guys have a problem with that? Thats kinda fucked up on your part. Im not being obnoxious, I answer correctly and for the most part am treated with respect. Does Native Americans having citizenship in the US and Canada not jive with you? Honestly, explain yourselves because Ive never conducted myself in a manner that resorted to me being detrained or arrested.</quote> What citizenship did you hold first/what country were you born in and currently reside</quote> Detroit, Michigan, USA. I reside in St Clair Shores, Michigan, Camp Verde, Arizona and Oneida of the Thames, Ontario, Canada. I travel frequently between all three and the record of my crossings is clearly documented. Would you also like to know why I travel frequently? Because I also spend a great deal of time in Dalian, China, Kiev, Ukraine, and Dubai, UAE Edit: Id like to add that Ive never actually been asked your question at a US/Canada border. But my travels are always reported and again, Im more than willing to be honest with border security.</quote> So you're American and you're from Michigan. Just answer the boarder people with a simple response.</quote> So let me get this straight. My response of North American Indian isnt a simple response? Because its an acceptable response at the border for the most part, very rarely do I need to elaborate. Im going to present you with a simple question. Is North American Indian not a simple response? Very simple, and in my experience, acceptable response. Is it not? And if Im asked to elaborate, I do. But is North American Indian not an accepted response to you? Simple question</quote> Where are you from- I'm from Michigan sir You were born and reside in Michigan, you're from Michigan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/14/19 9:54:58 PM #52:	But I dont just reside in Michigan now do I? Beyond that Is North American Indian not a simple response? Yes or no, simple question. If its not Ill happily explain to you once again why I respond the way I do. So @Yao, is North American Indian not a simple response? And if not, explain why when Im more than willing to answer why it is. Explain yourself --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:924695294] in Fear of IC... [t:77863690]...</cite> <quote>But I dont just reside in Michigan now do I? Beyond that Is North American Indian not a simple response? Yes or no, simple question. If its not Ill happily explain to you once again why I respond the way I do. So @Yao, is North American Indian not a simple response? And if not, explain why when Im more than willing to answer why it is. Explain yourself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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