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LinkPizza
07/10/19 11:21:59 PM
#51:


Zeus posted...
While I like the portability of the Switch, the docking system is way more annoying than a dedicated console.

Why is that?
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TheWitchMorgana
07/10/19 11:40:32 PM
#52:


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The 2DS was created for greater durability and to get it to a sub-100 price point. This accomplishes neither.

uhh, no, it was created to be more accessible to younger people... cheaper and more durable are literally the basic things for that. you don't know what the durability of this is and if you thought the switch was going to be sub-100 at any point, to use one of your own lines, i have a bridge to sell you
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green dragon
07/11/19 10:02:12 AM
#53:


Zeus posted...
The 2DS was created for greater durability and to get it to a sub-100 price point. This accomplishes neither.

when the 2ds launched, it was price at $129.99
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party_animal07
07/11/19 11:53:27 AM
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I'd be interested if it were the other way around. The portability does nothing for me as I don't play on the go.
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Broken_Zeus
07/11/19 1:22:57 PM
#55:


LinkPizza posted...
Zeus posted...
While I like the portability of the Switch, the docking system is way more annoying than a dedicated console.

Why is that?


Potential damage issues while docking, the cords are a nightmare, and I was having some issues even getting it going at first.

TheWitchMorgana posted...
Zeus posted...
The 2DS was created for greater durability and to get it to a sub-100 price point. This accomplishes neither.

uhh, no, it was created to be more accessible to younger people... cheaper and more durable are literally the basic things for that. you don't know what the durability of this is and if you thought the switch was going to be sub-100 at any point, to use one of your own lines, i have a bridge to sell you


So you disagree, but agree, but have to disagree because otherwise you'd be seen agreeing with me? Got it.

TheWitchMorgana posted...
if you thought the switch was going to be sub-100 at any point, to use one of your own lines, i have a bridge to sell you


First off, way to wrongly use one of my lines. The expression refers to people falling for shit, whereas Nintendo made no promises. Second, and more importantly, they could have gone cheaper without hitting sub-100. $150 or $180 would have also been a nicer-looking price point.

green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
The 2DS was created for greater durability and to get it to a sub-100 price point. This accomplishes neither.

when the 2ds launched, it was price at $129.99


Was it? Wasn't the normal 3DS going for about $130 at that point? Or are you talking about the 2DS XL rather than the 2DS?
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fatbaldguy0
07/11/19 1:25:12 PM
#56:


Was coming to here to ask if I'm the only one who wants a Switch XL or Switch Pro, but I see my people here toward the end of the topic. Hey y'all!

But seriously, I'd lug around an even bigger setup than the current switch - not much bigger, mind you, but a bit bigger. That and/or a hardware upgrade since some of my favorite games still have a bit of a stutter and anticipating a bit of that when BotW2 comes out.
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wwinterj25
07/11/19 1:29:45 PM
#57:


When I eventually buy a Switch I'd like the dock option as that's actually the main draw for me. The option of having it portable is nice though. With this model it's taking a feature away so although it costs 80 less over here I'd rather pay 80 more and have options.

Mead posted...
Its a switch that doesnt switch

A option to dock if you choose to "upgrade" would be great.
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Sahuagin
07/11/19 1:52:21 PM
#58:


Zeus posted...
Veedrock- posted...
@ Sahuagin posted...
would buy it in a second if it was backwards compatible, but without that what's the point

Backwards compatible with what?

Good question, tbh. Obviously a cart-based system can't be compatible with the WiiU, but the lack of a second screen means it obviously couldn't be compatible with the 3DS either.

I don't have those systems so I don't know the technical limitations. the point is it's not worth the limited library of games. there are nintendo games I want to play, but I can't just buy one system and then play them, I have to buy like three or four different systems, each for a different chunk of games.
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OHJOY90
07/11/19 2:19:46 PM
#59:


wwinterj25 posted...
When I eventually buy a Switch I'd like the dock option as that's actually the main draw for me. The option of having it portable is nice though. With this model it's taking a feature away so although it costs 80 less over here I'd rather pay 80 more and have options.

Mead posted...
Its a switch that doesnt switch

A option to dock if you choose to "upgrade" would be great.


I think in Japan they started to sell a cheaper switch without the dock a while back. I don't think it ever made it overseas. Pity the stand alone Nintendo docks are really expensive, but I have a 3rd party one that works well in my brothers room (or so he tells me).
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QuadB
07/11/19 8:00:45 PM
#60:


I might get one for my girlfriend. We have a regular Switch, but she often pet-sits at people's homes and will take it with her. She often will play it handheld while I do my homework as well. And then we could finally play Splatoon 2 together!
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Broken_Zeus
07/11/19 8:32:10 PM
#61:


Sahuagin posted...
Zeus posted...
Veedrock- posted...
@ Sahuagin posted...
would buy it in a second if it was backwards compatible, but without that what's the point

Backwards compatible with what?

Good question, tbh. Obviously a cart-based system can't be compatible with the WiiU, but the lack of a second screen means it obviously couldn't be compatible with the 3DS either.

I don't have those systems so I don't know the technical limitations. the point is it's not worth the limited library of games. there are nintendo games I want to play, but I can't just buy one system and then play them, I have to buy like three or four different systems, each for a different chunk of games.


What?

OHJOY90 posted...
I think in Japan they started to sell a cheaper switch without the dock a while back. I don't think it ever made it overseas. Pity the stand alone Nintendo docks are really expensive, but I have a 3rd party one that works well in my brothers room (or so he tells me).


I don't get why the docks should be expensive, given the tech involved. Basically it's just plastic and an adapter.
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pedro45
07/11/19 8:48:59 PM
#62:


Doesn't the adapter also downgrade the resolution? Idk if that's part of the dock or the system itself.
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LinkPizza
07/11/19 8:51:04 PM
#63:


Sahuagin posted...
Zeus posted...
Veedrock- posted...
@ Sahuagin posted...
would buy it in a second if it was backwards compatible, but without that what's the point

Backwards compatible with what?

Good question, tbh. Obviously a cart-based system can't be compatible with the WiiU, but the lack of a second screen means it obviously couldn't be compatible with the 3DS either.

I don't have those systems so I don't know the technical limitations. the point is it's not worth the limited library of games. there are nintendo games I want to play, but I can't just buy one system and then play them, I have to buy like three or four different systems, each for a different chunk of games.

So, you want it to be backwards compatible, even though you dont have any games for any previous system that it could be backwards compatible with, nor do you even know what you want it to be backwards compatible with?

pedro45 posted...
Doesn't the adapter also downgrade the resolution? Idk if that's part of the dock or the system itself.

I thought it did the opposite...
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Broken_Zeus
07/11/19 8:53:17 PM
#64:


pedro45 posted...
Doesn't the adapter also downgrade the resolution? Idk if that's part of the dock or the system itself.


No, it just looks better on a smaller screen.
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 12:32:44 AM
#65:


LinkPizza posted...
So, you want it to be backwards compatible, even though you dont have any games for any previous system that it could be backwards compatible with, nor do you even know what you want it to be backwards compatible with?

I want it to be backwards compatible such that I can play everything post-wii and post-gba, however that's accomplished. crap like this is why I'm a PC gamer, where I can still play games from decades ago, and everything since then, all on my one machine.

in other words, give me an all-in-one nintendo device. I already own 4 generations of nintendo machines, and that's not including handhelds. how many more devices would I have to own to play all of the nintendo games? something like three or four more? why the hell would I buy a brand new machine that only plays the like 3 newest nintendo games?
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keyblader1985
07/12/19 1:04:15 AM
#66:


Dude, you were never going to buy this..
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LinkPizza
07/12/19 1:05:08 AM
#67:


Sahuagin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you want it to be backwards compatible, even though you dont have any games for any previous system that it could be backwards compatible with, nor do you even know what you want it to be backwards compatible with?

I want it to be backwards compatible such that I can play everything post-wii and post-gba, however that's accomplished. crap like this is why I'm a PC gamer, where I can still play games from decades ago, and everything since then, all on my one machine.

in other words, give me an all-in-one nintendo device. I already own 4 generations of nintendo machines, and that's not including handhelds. how many more devices would I have to own to play all of the nintendo games? something like three or four more? why the hell would I buy a brand new machine that only plays the like 3 newest nintendo games?

That's how consoles work. You can't play everything on them... Especially when they use different forms for them. You want a handheld device to play the cartridges that it plays, but also cards an dics (Where the disc is actually taller than the system and wouldn't fit in it). I could see MAYBE them making it work with 3DS games, but I definitely don't think they would do Wii U games. Getting a Wii U would allow you to play Wii and Wii U games. Maybe GameCube, as well (but not sure on that one). As for the Switch, it's them trying something new. Maybe the next system will be backwards compatible with switch games. Then you can get that one. But I would expect a new console like this to be backwards compatible with past handheld and console games when it's a new mix between both, anyway. Like I said, I could maybe see 3DS games, but even that is a stretch...

keyblader1985 posted...
Dude, you were never going to buy this..

And probably this. Based on what you said...
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 1:21:34 AM
#68:


keyblader1985 posted...
Dude, you were never going to buy this..

I would if not for the reason given, yes.

LinkPizza posted...
That's how consoles work. You can't play everything on them...

right, but how many games do you actually get to play on it? Used to be a system would have dozens if not hundreds of unique games. would I even get 5 worthwhile games?

I suppose if it was your primary gaming platform, it might be worth it. but when you already have PC, what exactly are you even getting? and then in two years, there'll be Switch 2 that's not b.c. with Switch. wtf's the point.

(another way to say all this, is I *want* to be sold on a nintendo system; I'm just pissed at how much of a waste of money it would be.)
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LinkPizza
07/12/19 2:16:18 AM
#69:


Sahuagin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
That's how consoles work. You can't play everything on them...

right, but how many games do you actually get to play on it? Used to be a system would have dozens if not hundreds of unique games. would I even get 5 worthwhile games?

I suppose if it was your primary gaming platform, it might be worth it. but when you already have PC, what exactly are you even getting? and then in two years, there'll be Switch 2 that's not b.c. with Switch. wtf's the point.

(another way to say all this, is I *want* to be sold on a nintendo system; I'm just pissed at how much of a waste of money it would be.)

Depends on what you consider worthwhile, tbh. So far, I have lots of games I like. Some specific to the switch (Mario Odessey, Splatoon 2, Cadence of Hyrule, Mario+Rabbids, etc.). But also, some that aren't. But it may play easier for me (and probably others). For me, that would be stuff like CotND, or the binding of Isaac. Or maybe you don't have the other systems they're on. For others, that can be things like the Ace Attorney Trilogy or Bayonetta 1 or 2. So, it really just depends. The switch has plenty of games. If they aren't worthwhile to you, that sucks. But to many, they are. So, people don't mind getting the system. To say 5 like it has no games at all is wrong. It will probably release many over it's lifetime.

For how long it last, Idk. Though 2 years would be wrong since it's already been 2 years. And so far, only the lite has been introduced. They would probably release a new version of the switch before a new console. And that one actually might be compatible with the first switch. I don't know what the switch not being BC with two very different systems (one being portable and one a home console) that both use a different game format than the switch has to do with the switch 2 not being BC. Most of their systems do have BC when using the same type of whatever. Like the Wii playing GC games. And the Wii U playing Wii games. And the handhelds had BC, too... When will the new system be release? I have no idea... But probably not that soon...

As for why to get it when you have PC, they are some. Like the Exclusives games. Nintendo has a ton. And the portability. If you have a laptop cool, but not everyone does. Not to mention, while portable, it's not as portable as a switch exactly. Not sure how to really describe it. But there's also people who don't want a PC. Or who PC game.

For how to sell you want, it depends on what you want. Maybe it won't have what you want, though. So, maybe it's just not for you... Just pass on it and wait for the Switch 2, I guess...
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keyblader1985
07/12/19 2:26:17 AM
#70:


I like how you say you're interested while simultaneously shitting on its library and consoles in general.
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 4:23:15 AM
#71:


keyblader1985 posted...
I like how you say you're interested

I'm not interested, I want to be interested

LinkPizza posted...
Depends on what you consider worthwhile

maybe that's it. looked through a list of exclusives and I guess as much as I want to be I'm not that into mario and kirby games. there's still only a handful of unique games, and of what there is it's 90% kids games. I think I saw a single game that was both exclusive to the system and didn't look like a kids game. oh well. I might get one of these cheaper ones for my nephews, but I sure as hell don't expect to have as much fun with it as I am showing them SNES games.
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LinkPizza
07/12/19 8:54:32 AM
#72:


Sahuagin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Depends on what you consider worthwhile

maybe that's it. looked through a list of exclusives and I guess as much as I want to be I'm not that into mario and kirby games. there's still only a handful of unique games, and of what there is it's 90% kids games. I think I saw a single game that was both exclusive to the system and didn't look like a kids game. oh well. I might get one of these cheaper ones for my nephews, but I sure as hell don't expect to have as much fun with it as I am showing them SNES games.

Nintendo makes more E rated games. Though, I wouldnt call them kid games because of it. Just because kids can play them doesnt mean adults cant also have fun. Like with the Mario + Rabbids game. Its seems childish, but is a more strategic game. Its basically a Mario skinned XCom. And while its not always the hardest, some of the challenges were pretty difficult... If youre going to based a games fun on how it looks, though (like looking childish instead of if its fun or not), then its probably not the system for you...
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keyblader1985
07/12/19 9:37:17 AM
#73:


There's a difference between "kid's" games and "family" games. The latter is what Nintendo primarily deals in, and if it's not your cup of tea then this is all a waste of time (seeing as most more mature games are not exclusive).
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07/12/19 9:44:43 AM
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Krazy_Kirby
07/12/19 11:49:24 AM
#75:


-Komaiko54- posted...
bruh I thought this was a joke topic


you didn't create it
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OmegaM
07/12/19 2:18:21 PM
#76:


I'l probably get this. I may as well get a current Nintendo system---I assume that the 3DS is no longer "current"---and there's probably not going to be a cheaper one than this for some time. I'll probably not get too many games for it, just a few that everyone seems to be talking about, like DONKEY KONG COUNTRY: TROPICAL FREEZE.

(Actually, I'd probably get that eventually even if it hadn't become a joke here, since I've played the 3DS version of Donkey Kong Country Returns and think it's pretty good, at least on a par with DKC 1-3.)
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Taily_Po
07/12/19 2:37:04 PM
#77:


Sahuagin posted...
I want it to be backwards compatible such that I can play everything post-wii and post-gba, however that's accomplished. crap like this is why I'm a PC gamer, where I can still play games from decades ago, and everything since then, all on my one machine.


Your complaint makes no sense since literally no system has that capability. You're talking BC for one console generation and TWO handheld generations, which would present all kinds of ridiculous hardware requirements. (And it's even sillier since you talk about being able to do this with the PC despite the PC not having a real handheld option.)

In short, stop trolling.

Sahuagin posted...
in other words, give me an all-in-one nintendo device. I already own 4 generations of nintendo machines, and that's not including handhelds. how many more devices would I have to own to play all of the nintendo games? something like three or four more? why the hell would I buy a brand new machine that only plays the like 3 newest nintendo games?


Again, you're asking for BC for multiple formats. Excluding piracy, the PC can't even accommodate that without buying older hardware and, again, you'd need a substantially different kind of hardware to recreate a handheld.

Sahuagin posted...

right, but how many games do you actually get to play on it? Used to be a system would have dozens if not hundreds of unique games. would I even get 5 worthwhile games?


Now you're conflating things.

Sahuagin posted...

I suppose if it was your primary gaming platform, it might be worth it. but when you already have PC, what exactly are you even getting? and then in two years, there'll be Switch 2 that's not b.c. with Switch. wtf's the point.


...what?

OmegaM posted...
I'l probably get this. I may as well get a current Nintendo system---I assume that the 3DS is no longer "current"---and there's probably not going to be a cheaper one than this for some time. I'll probably not get too many games for it, just a few that everyone seems to be talking about, like DONKEY KONG COUNTRY: TROPICAL FREEZE.

(Actually, I'd probably get that eventually even if it hadn't become a joke here, since I've played the 3DS version of Donkey Kong Country Returns and think it's pretty good, at least on a par with DKC 1-3.)


I'm still kicking myself for not running out to get that standard New 3DS on Black Friday years ago, since you're stuck either going with the XL or a 2D version.
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 2:48:09 PM
#78:


there's a difference between games that look childish and games that play childish. nintendo games didn't really used to be either, but these days seem to focus on looking more and more childish, and in some cases even play childish. (this isn't necessarily an issue, I have no idea how the games are, it's just that I can't tell by looking at them. but the few modern nintendo games I've played sure don't feel very adult-friendly.)

aside from that, now that I think of it, this Lite thing is hand-held only, which is not really what I'm looking for either. I will probably buy a $200 switch eventually, but I'm so tired of the way nintendo runs things. I just want to play good nintendo games. I want to buy a modern incarnation of a SNES basically, with no gimmicks and real games. I want to want to buy a nintendo console, and I want to be excited about great nintendo games. not fight my way through a gimmick and suffer through the modern kiddified versions of their franchises.

(maybe that sounds harsh but look at what they've done to mario and yoshi over the years. they've always been cartoony, but they weren't aimed at 4 year olds either. some of their stuff is SO artistically childish it starts to look silly even to a 7 year old. compare Super Metroid and Link to the Past, which I'm currently showing my 7-year-old nephew, to some of these modern nintendo games. My 5yo nephew definitely likes the more childish stuff (and constantly asks me for a Switch), but my 7yo nephew is starting to appreciate more mature stuff.)
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 2:52:14 PM
#79:


Taily_Po posted...
Your complaint makes no sense since literally no system has that capability. You're talking BC for one console generation and TWO handheld generations, which would present all kinds of ridiculous hardware requirements. (And it's even sillier since you talk about being able to do this with the PC despite the PC not having a real handheld option.)

maybe it's technically impossible, but the point is I need a larger library of games to make it worthwhile. I'm not buying a $350+ system for 3 games.

for handheld, I don't want to play anything handheld. I want to play nintendo's handheld games on a TV/monitor like any normal game. I just want to enjoy their games without jumping through all their stupid hardware gimmick hoops.
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Taily_Po
07/12/19 3:15:29 PM
#80:


Sahuagin posted...
there's a difference between games that look childish and games that play childish. nintendo games didn't really used to be either, but these days seem to focus on looking more and more childish, and in some cases even play childish. (this isn't necessarily an issue, I have no idea how the games are, it's just that I can't tell by looking at them. but the few modern nintendo games I've played sure don't feel very adult-friendly.)


....what?

Sahuagin posted...
aside from that, now that I think of it, this Lite thing is hand-held only, which is not really what I'm looking for either. I will probably buy a $200 switch eventually, but I'm so tired of the way nintendo runs things. I just want to play good nintendo games. I want to buy a modern incarnation of a SNES basically, with no gimmicks and real games. I want to want to buy a nintendo console, and I want to be excited about great nintendo games. not fight my way through a gimmick and suffer through the modern kiddified versions of their franchises.


The Switch isn't that big on gimmicks, especially when compared to gimmick games seen with the 3DS, Wii, and WiiU.

Sahuagin posted...
maybe it's technically impossible, but the point is I need a larger library of games to make it worthwhile. I'm not buying a $350+ system for 3 games.


I'm sure you could find more than 3 games if you bothered looking harder.

Sahuagin posted...
for handheld, I don't want to play anything handheld. I want to play nintendo's handheld games on a TV/monitor like any normal game. I just want to enjoy their games without jumping through all their stupid hardware gimmick hoops.


...what? >_>
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 3:18:35 PM
#81:


Taily_Po posted...
....what?

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LinkPizza
07/12/19 3:18:45 PM
#82:


Sounds like your version of adult friendly has to have blood/gore and cursing or something. Not every game needs to that to be fun for adults. It just has to be fun.

If you dont want the system, dont get it. It sounds like you wouldnt like the games, anyway. Why want something you dont want? And Nintendo does do gimmicks a lot. This time, the gimmick is simply both console and handheld. Its not a gimmick you have to fight. Its sounds like you just want to complain about Nintendo, while pretending you want to want it or something...

Every kid is different, also. The art style has nothing to do with how childish something is or isnt. Just because one like a certain art style while another child likes a different one doesnt really mean one is more childish or mature. Its just a different art style...
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LinkPizza
07/12/19 3:22:27 PM
#83:


Sahuagin posted...
Taily_Po posted...
Your complaint makes no sense since literally no system has that capability. You're talking BC for one console generation and TWO handheld generations, which would present all kinds of ridiculous hardware requirements. (And it's even sillier since you talk about being able to do this with the PC despite the PC not having a real handheld option.)

maybe it's technically impossible, but the point is I need a larger library of games to make it worthwhile. I'm not buying a $350+ system for 3 games.

for handheld, I don't want to play anything handheld. I want to play nintendo's handheld games on a TV/monitor like any normal game. I just want to enjoy their games without jumping through all their stupid hardware gimmick hoops.

The gimmick is just that you can play either way. If you dont want to play handheld, then dont. You dont have to. Complaining that you dont like the gimmick of being able to play it either way is an idiotic argument. And youre just complaining to complain. Or basically trolling. Its not a valid complaint AT ALL. And it has plenty of games. Plus, its only been out for 2 years. More game will come out. Most games with big libraries have been out for a while to build up those libraries. Its not like all of a systems games comes out in the first year...
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 3:30:56 PM
#84:


LinkPizza posted...
Sounds like your version of adult friendly has to have blood/gore and cursing or something.

where do you get that when I used the specific examples of Super Metroid and Link to the Past?

LinkPizza posted...
If you dont want to play handheld, then dont. You dont have to.

I have to on the Lite, and I have to for all of the handheld-only nintendo games (3ds or whatever)

LinkPizza posted...
Complaining that you dont like the gimmick of being able to play it either way is an idiotic argument.

good thing I didn't say that then. (there is a valid argument there though of being able to get a TV-only version of the system for cheaper. why pay more for the option of handheld when you don't want it? but other than the cost it doesn't matter.)

LinkPizza posted...
Most games with big libraries have been out for a while to build up those libraries.

like the Wii U?
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Taily_Po
07/12/19 3:33:53 PM
#85:


Sahuagin posted...
Taily_Po posted...
....what?

truly riveting conversation...


Well, it'd help if you tried making sense instead of nonsense.
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keyblader1985
07/12/19 3:38:09 PM
#86:


I would suggest that people stop feeding into this anymore, unless they're actually enjoying it for some reason.
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LinkPizza
07/12/19 3:42:05 PM
#87:


Sahuagin posted...
where do you get that when I used the specific examples of Super Metroid and Link to the Past?

So, what games are too childish for you on the Switch? Or are too childish for adults to have fun? Or not adult friendly? There may be a couple, because unlike other systems, they are suppose to be fun for everybody. Though, being more fun for a child doesnt actually mean not fun for an adult, so...

Sahuagin posted...
I have to on the Lite, and I have to for all of the handheld-only nintendo games (3ds or whatever)

Im talking about the Switch. But the Switch lite isnt a gimmick. Its half of a switch. Or just a handheld. The one with the gimmick is the Switch. And its not one that you have to play handheld. But you are right that you have to play 3DS games handheld. Because a handheld system. But thats also not a gimmick.

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good thing I didn't say that then

You mentioned the Switchs gimmick. The only gimmick is that its can be console or handheld. Or were you talking about another gimmick? Because I dont see any other gimmicks for that system...

Sahuagin posted...
like the Wii U?

So one other system not having a huge library means the Switch wont... even though its already got a decent size library for only being out for 2 years?
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Krazy_Kirby
07/12/19 3:50:11 PM
#88:


^
the switch doesn't have many good exclusives still
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Muscles
07/12/19 3:56:50 PM
#89:


As someone who bought the GBA, DS, and 3DS for pokemon games, this is something that really interests me
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Taily_Po
07/12/19 3:58:45 PM
#90:


Muscles posted...
As someone who bought the GBA, DS, and 3DS for pokemon games, this is something that really interests me


Honestly, even if I didn't already have a Switch, I'm not sure that the SKU would interest me despite really just using the handheld option. The price point would need to be lower to justify giving up that many features.
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 4:01:28 PM
#91:


LinkPizza posted...
So, what games are too childish for you on the Switch?

I said that I can't tell by looking at them. I have no idea till I try them (aside from Nintendo's aesthetic become overly childish in general).

otherwise, the point is that I would like to buy a nintendo system that gives me access to a lot of their games, and I can't. I have to buy at least three different systems to catch up, which is ridiculous. I just want to play nintendo games without buying a neverending supply of systems, and preferrably while avoiding hand-held.

(another way to say this is something I've said before: nintendo tries too hard to be a hardware company. they put way too much effort into hardware, and not at all enough effort into software. they should focus on making the system that is easiest to make great games for, and then focus on making great games for it. instead they pump out new device after new device, segregating their own games, and limit the number of actual games they make. I want another golden nintendo era where we're drowning in great nintendo games, not this current era of drowning in nintendo hardware with a drought of games.)
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Muscles
07/12/19 4:23:14 PM
#92:


Taily_Po posted...
Muscles posted...
As someone who bought the GBA, DS, and 3DS for pokemon games, this is something that really interests me


Honestly, even if I didn't already have a Switch, I'm not sure that the SKU would interest me despite really just using the handheld option. The price point would need to be lower to justify giving up that many features.

I have literally 0 desire to play on a tv, if you do cool, but it seems like this is way less of a hassel (and cheaper) for someone that wants it for pokemon and maybe smash bros
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LinkPizza
07/12/19 4:27:51 PM
#93:


Its not that ridiculous. Only recently did Sony and Microsoft make it so you could play some older games. Before that, you had to have the older systems. They only went BC like one system. Which Nintendo was doing until they made a completely different system, which is the Switch.

As for the handheld thing, just dont play handheld games. But you also cant whine about it being able to play the games made for handheld on a non handheld system...

I think you have is backwards. Nintendo usually focuses on software, IIRC. Their hardware is usually weaker than the other companies. And their software is usually doing well. They have so many IPs on their own. Before they were getting indie games and third party games like they are on the Switch, they were still able to sell millions of games using their own IPs. Pretty much everything on the state was an exclusive, save for a few. And I dont think theyre in a drought for games, either. The Switch has plenty of games. Maybe not all exclusives, but still plenty of games. Especially since theyre now putting indie and third party games on the Switch. And lots of remakes. And honestly, they probably have more exclusives than the other two systems that came out at the same time, even if they dont have a lot. And they ported a bunch of games from Wii U, so you could play a bunch of older games, as well...
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 5:10:28 PM
#94:


LinkPizza posted...
And they ported a bunch of games from Wii U

if they're porting Wii U games to switch, that's the kind of thing I want to hear

I'll also say now that I think of it that the switch being console + handheld at the same time is actually a good thing. assuming there isn't also some separate hand-held platform, this merges their console and hand-held platforms together, solving the problem of them being separate.
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LinkPizza
07/12/19 5:14:45 PM
#95:


Sahuagin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
And they ported a bunch of games from Wii U

if they're porting Wii U games to switch, that's the kind of thing I want to hear

I'll also say now that I think of it that the switch being console + handheld at the same time is actually a good thing. assuming there isn't also some separate hand-held platform, this merges their console and hand-held platforms together, solving the problem of them being separate.

The porting thing has been happening almost since release. You not hearing about it naked it seem like you havent paid attention to the switch at all. Like the month after it released, it got a port.

And thats the whole point of the original switch. To have both console and handheld on the same system.
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GastroFan
07/12/19 8:10:10 PM
#96:


My main concern is the Switch and Switch Lite's memory. I prefer a physical copy of a game over DLC but the Switch doesn't have the 1 TB memory of a PS4 or even the memory of an XBox One (someone said 500 GB but I'm not sure if that's correct or not). Also I can play DS Lite games on my 3DS (even on my 3DS XL); so compatibility is a big issue as far as I'm concerned. That's not to mention the tiny controls on either side of the Switch (which forces me to spend more money for a bigger controller), and they're not detachable either. Until those problems are fixed, I'm not interested in either a Switch or Switch Lite.
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Sahuagin
07/12/19 8:16:30 PM
#97:


LinkPizza posted...
[makes] it seem like you havent paid attention to the switch at all

I haven't, because I've given up on nintendo post-wii. I'm waiting for an opportunity to come back. I don't want one, I want to want one.

LinkPizza posted...
And thats the whole point of the original switch. To have both console and handheld on the same system.

k that's definitely a good thing that I only just realized
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Taily_Po
07/12/19 8:32:51 PM
#98:


Muscles posted...
Taily_Po posted...
Muscles posted...
As someone who bought the GBA, DS, and 3DS for pokemon games, this is something that really interests me


Honestly, even if I didn't already have a Switch, I'm not sure that the SKU would interest me despite really just using the handheld option. The price point would need to be lower to justify giving up that many features.

I have literally 0 desire to play on a tv, if you do cool, but it seems like this is way less of a hassel (and cheaper) for someone that wants it for pokemon and maybe smash bros


Yes, the TV is probably the biggest feature, but it also means that you're losing access to some of the library (albeit mostly as a result of not having TV) and certain other features won't be supported.

Sahuagin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
And they ported a bunch of games from Wii U

if they're porting Wii U games to switch, that's the kind of thing I want to hear

I'll also say now that I think of it that the switch being console + handheld at the same time is actually a good thing. assuming there isn't also some separate hand-held platform, this merges their console and hand-held platforms together, solving the problem of them being separate.


Other than people who hate handhelds, the fact that it was separate was never a problem and had many benefits. And, honestly, I feel comfortable taking my 3DS out with me but not my Switch.
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Dreaming_King
07/12/19 8:42:40 PM
#99:


As someone who exclusively plays in handheld mode, it would be a pass for me if I ever needed to replace my Switch since I have a comfy set up like:

https://imgur.com/kD3QZY7

That requires detached joycon.
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Taily_Po
07/12/19 10:49:00 PM
#100:


Dreaming_King posted...
As someone who exclusively plays in handheld mode, it would be a pass for me if I ever needed to replace my Switch since I have a comfy set up like:

https://imgur.com/kD3QZY7

That requires detached joycon.


How the hell is that comfy?
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