Current Events > Chinese Judge in Utah is SUSPENDED WITHOUT PAY after he called Trump a FASCIST!!

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Full Throttle
05/25/19 9:13:10 PM
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Is Judge Kwan right about Trump 3 years later? - Results (19 votes)
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longtime Utah Judge, Michael Kwan was SUSPENDED WITHOUT PAY for 6 MONTHS after he made comments online about President Trump, including one bashing his "inability to govern and political incompetence"!!

He made the posts on FB and Linkeln in 2016-2018 that violated the judicial code of conduct and diminished the "reputation of our entire judiciary" wrote State Supreme Court Justice John A. Pearce

His post was private but could have been shared by friends as Pearce said his behaviour denigrates his reputation as an impartial, independent, dignified and courteous jurist

Kwan has been a court judge in Salt Lake City since 1998 as he deals with misdemeanor cases, violations of ordiances and small claims.

He was appointed by elected city officials to a 6 year term and retained his position by voters

He said his suspension wa inappropriate and an unlawful attempt to regulate his constitutionally protected speech

His Attorney, Greg Skordas said the judge is disappointed by the decision but accepted he would get some reprimand

Like many in 2016, he felt strongly about the results and said things in "haste" but acknowledges he is held to a higher standard

Taylorsville officials agree with the punishment and expect him to return to the bench when the suspension ends.

His political offiliation has been sealed but he has been critical of both parties in the past

On Inauguration Day of Trump, he wrote "Welcome to governing. Will you dig your heels in and spend the next four years undermining our country's reputation and standing in the world?...Will you continue to demonstrate your inability to govern and political incompetence? Welcome to the beginning of the fascist takeover..We need to be diligent in questioning Congressional Republicans if they are going to be the American Reichstag and refuse to stand up for the Constitution"

The ruling suspending Kwan also cited an interaction in court with a defendant in which he criticized Trump after the defendant said he would use his tax refund to pay fines and Kwan says "You do realize that we have a new president, and you think we are getting money back?"

The defendant says he "hopes. I pray and i cross my fingers". Kwan responds "OK. Prayer might be the answer cause he just signed an order to start building the wall and he has no money to do that. But don't worry, there is a tax cut for the wealthy so if you make over 500,000 you're getting a tax cut"

Kwan received a reward for reducing drug and alcohol abuse and served on the Utah Judicial Council and is president of the Chinese Railroad Workers Descendants Association

Is Judge Kwan right about Trump after 3 years from writing that?.

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gunplagirl
05/25/19 9:16:11 PM
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100% correct
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spudger
05/25/19 9:18:55 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
"inability to govern and political incompetence"!!

...he's not wrong
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Complete_Idi0t
05/25/19 9:21:21 PM
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Why would a Chinese judge be in Utah? It must be pretty hard to practice Chinese law if you're not even in China.
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TheRealDill2000
05/25/19 9:27:01 PM
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If you troll online, you should expect some consequences. This guy learned this lesson the hard way.
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hockeybub89
05/25/19 9:28:13 PM
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glitteringfairy
05/25/19 9:34:54 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
If you troll online, you should expect some consequences. This guy learned this lesson the hard way.

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Psyonix
05/25/19 9:35:03 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
100% correct


I agree with @gunplagirl he 100% should have been suspended without pay.
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hockeybub89
05/25/19 9:36:16 PM
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Psyonix posted...
gunplagirl posted...
100% correct


I agree with @gunplagirl he 100% should have been suspended without pay.

Can we suspend Trump for behaving worse?
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pegusus123456
05/25/19 9:39:29 PM
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Trump is a piece of shit, but I imagine he did actually violate a rule judges are meant to follow.
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Mister_Spyker
05/25/19 9:42:15 PM
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And yet Trump has been insulting people of all political spectrums left and right, and he is not being held to a higher standard given his position as President of the U.S.

Anyway, I did not know it was illegal to criticize the people in power. Taking queues from Russia, I guess.
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The Popo
05/25/19 9:42:40 PM
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The judge is American. Not Chinese.
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0xDEFECADE
05/25/19 9:42:49 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Trump is a piece of shit, but I imagine he did actually violate a rule judges are meant to follow.

thanks I was worried it might be against the first amendment but I guess not phew
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The_Thinker
05/25/19 9:44:19 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Psyonix posted...
gunplagirl posted...
100% correct


I agree with @gunplagirl he 100% should have been suspended without pay.

Can we suspend Trump for behaving worse?

All he's done is Make America Great Again.
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uwnim
05/25/19 9:47:15 PM
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The judge is totally right about trump.
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Proto_Spark
05/25/19 9:50:40 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
The ruling suspending Kwan also cited an interaction in court with a defendant in which he criticized Trump after the defendant said he would use his tax refund to pay fines and Kwan says "You do realize that we have a new president, and you think we are getting money back?"

The defendant says he "hopes. I pray and i cross my fingers". Kwan responds "OK. Prayer might be the answer cause he just signed an order to start building the wall and he has no money to do that. But don't worry, there is a tax cut for the wealthy so if you make over 500,000 you're getting a tax cut"


This is the problem. In that he's shoving politics into his actual job, suggesting he might not be able to be a judge in a politically neutral way. You don't want this guy handing out an extra harsh sentence because the guy being sentenced was a trump supporter.

Like all this dude needs to do is not publicly crap on Trump while he's doing his job
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0xDEFECADE
05/25/19 9:52:14 PM
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sometimes you just can't keep a lid on your legitimate outrage anymore
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Panthera
05/25/19 9:53:19 PM
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He's right about Trump. Also deserves to be suspended for being unprofessional enough to respond to people in court with random irrelevant political tirades.
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hockeybub89
05/25/19 9:55:57 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Full Throttle posted...
The ruling suspending Kwan also cited an interaction in court with a defendant in which he criticized Trump after the defendant said he would use his tax refund to pay fines and Kwan says "You do realize that we have a new president, and you think we are getting money back?"

The defendant says he "hopes. I pray and i cross my fingers". Kwan responds "OK. Prayer might be the answer cause he just signed an order to start building the wall and he has no money to do that. But don't worry, there is a tax cut for the wealthy so if you make over 500,000 you're getting a tax cut"


This is the problem. In that he's shoving politics into his actual job, suggesting he might not be able to be a judge in a politically neutral way. You don't want this guy handing out an extra harsh sentence because the guy being sentenced was a trump supporter.

Like all this dude needs to do is not publicly crap on Trump while he's doing his job

Yet we're ok with the guy he is shitting on running the country while singling out everyone who disagrees with him and calling them an enemy, and generally acting like the most childish idiot you'd ever have the displeasure of dealing with. If our own President isn't held to professional standards, then why should anyone?
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Machete
05/25/19 9:57:14 PM
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He should replace that kavanaugh judge-criminal tbh
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0xDEFECADE
05/25/19 9:59:57 PM
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Machete posted...
He should replace that kavanaugh judge-criminal tbh

has kava been as awful as we all feared? honest question. i heard he wasnt so Im just curious
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Maze_
05/25/19 10:01:33 PM
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0xDEFECADE posted...
Machete posted...
He should replace that kavanaugh judge-criminal tbh

has kava been as awful as we all feared? honest question. i heard he wasnt so Im just curious

I take it you haven't been following the abortion law drama lately.
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Machete
05/25/19 10:03:31 PM
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0xDEFECADE posted...
Machete posted...
He should replace that kavanaugh judge-criminal tbh

has kava been as awful as we all feared? honest question. i heard he wasnt so Im just curious


Did we all fear? Honest question etc.
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pegusus123456
05/25/19 10:26:10 PM
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0xDEFECADE posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Trump is a piece of shit, but I imagine he did actually violate a rule judges are meant to follow.

thanks I was worried it might be against the first amendment but I guess not phew

Being a judge is still a job. You can be disciplined or fired for saying stupid shit in any job.
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Complete_Idi0t
05/25/19 10:27:07 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Trump is a piece of shit, but I imagine he did actually violate a rule judges are meant to follow.

thanks I was worried it might be against the first amendment but I guess not phew

Being a judge is still a job. You can be disciplined or fired for saying stupid shit in any job.


Then why does the president still have a job
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glitteringfairy
05/25/19 10:28:04 PM
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The_Thinker posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Psyonix posted...
gunplagirl posted...
100% correct


I agree with @gunplagirl he 100% should have been suspended without pay.

Can we suspend Trump for behaving worse?

All he's done is Make America Great Again.

Amen brother.
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meralonne
05/25/19 11:08:56 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
The_Thinker posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Psyonix posted...
gunplagirl posted...
100% correct


I agree with @gunplagirl he 100% should have been suspended without pay.

Can we suspend Trump for behaving worse?

All he's done is Make America Great Again.

Amen brother.

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MARKINGRAM22
05/26/19 4:32:02 AM
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This goes to the military and other professions. You are not allowed to make political declarations, especially in uniform.
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gguirao
05/26/19 4:52:05 AM
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Yes.
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Irony
05/26/19 4:54:32 AM
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Weird shit talking gets a 6 month suspension but letting rapists and murderers get slaps on the hand gets nothing
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Irony
05/26/19 5:02:44 AM
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Actually suspending him might be illegal
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MwarriorHiei
05/26/19 5:06:14 AM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Like all this dude needs to do is not publicly crap on Trump while he's doing his job

Full Throttle posted...
His post was private

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Umbreon
05/26/19 5:22:59 AM
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I'm sure the Free Speech Brigade will be here any minute to oppose this.
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Bishop9800
05/26/19 5:36:11 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
The_Thinker posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Psyonix posted...
gunplagirl posted...
100% correct


I agree with @gunplagirl he 100% should have been suspended without pay.

Can we suspend Trump for behaving worse?

All he's done is Make America Great Again.

Amen brother.


And how has he done that?
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Mister_Spyker
05/26/19 9:18:30 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Yet we're ok with the guy he is shitting on running the country while singling out everyone who disagrees with him and calling them an enemy, and generally acting like the most childish idiot you'd ever have the displeasure of dealing with. If our own President isn't held to professional standards, then why should anyone?

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Blade-wolf
05/26/19 9:21:50 AM
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0xDEFECADE posted...
sometimes you just can't keep a lid on your legitimate outrage anymore

Then he shouldn't be a judge
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hockeybub89
05/26/19 9:24:12 AM
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Blade-wolf posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
sometimes you just can't keep a lid on your legitimate outrage anymore

Then he shouldn't be a judge

This is the same reason I believe we should remove the president.
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Blade-wolf
05/26/19 9:25:05 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Blade-wolf posted...
0xDEFECADE posted...
sometimes you just can't keep a lid on your legitimate outrage anymore

Then he shouldn't be a judge

This is the same reason I believe we should remove the president.

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mrduckbear
05/26/19 5:16:23 PM
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it's a slam dunk YES
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twitterfriends
05/26/19 5:18:38 PM
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So much for free speech Utah, lmao fuck those degenerates
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