Current Events > China's creepy social credit system creates dystopian nightmare

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TrowaBarton7
05/25/19 9:43:24 PM
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Chinas Orwellian Social Credit Score Isnt Real:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/
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EverDownward
05/25/19 9:51:23 PM
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ModLogic posted...
not so different to being born in america and shot by cops or end up in prison for having a different skin tone

This has to be the most pathetic use of "yeah, but!" I've ever seen. China is a literal dystopian hellhole, and you want to go on about how bad some cops are. Holy mother of Christ, I hope this is just some shitty gimmick.
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ModLogic
05/26/19 12:35:53 AM
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even bringing up one thing is enough to emotionally traumatize those that are so brainwashed by western propaganda since birth.
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SH_expert44
05/26/19 12:40:52 AM
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JE19426
05/26/19 4:33:54 AM
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HiddenLurker posted...
Three police officers are sent to arrest a woman for mis-gendering a trans person online.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/10/police-wasting-time-arresting-twitter-transphobes-could-tackling/amp/

Oh look some teen got charged a hate crime for tweeting some rap lyrics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921

9 people are arrested per day for online trolling.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-arresting-nine-people-a-day-in-fight-against-web-trolls-b8nkpgp2d


I read as much of those three sources as I could do (I don't have a Times or Telegram account so those two get cut off). Not one of them talks about the EU, or about China's social credit system. So I think I'm going to stick with my previous statement of:

JE19426 posted...
Ah, so there is no source.
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DarkRoast
05/26/19 9:30:24 AM
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ModLogic posted...
even bringing up one thing is enough to emotionally traumatize those that are so brainwashed by western propaganda since birth.


My family is from China. I live there 1-2 months of every year. They would literally slap you for even suggesting the US is as bad as China. You have no idea what it was like to live during the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution. Simply having a college education got you publicly executed by flash mobs. Everyone was starving.

Even now, children get run over on the streets and nobody will stop to help them because the government is so corrupt and inept, there's a good chance the person who helped the child will be labeled the attacker because the police force is too lazy to investigate.

You can literally wake up one day and find out your house will be bulldozed in 24 hours, and the government gives you an apartment worth 1/10th the value in recompense.

Your own internet posts can be deleted or edited by the government. The stupidest shit is banned (stories with time travel, because they might glorify pre-Party China) and can get you thrown in jail.
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hockeybub89
05/26/19 9:31:05 AM
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Imagine defending China on a dying video game message board.
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Blade-wolf
05/26/19 9:35:31 AM
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And this is exactly what the left wants for the US.
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Current_Events
05/26/19 9:53:23 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
ModLogic posted...
even bringing up one thing is enough to emotionally traumatize those that are so brainwashed by western propaganda since birth.


My family is from China. I live there 1-2 months of every year. They would literally slap you for even suggesting the US is as bad as China. You have no idea what it was like to live during the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution. Simply having a college education got you publicly executed by flash mobs. Everyone was starving.

Even now, children get run over on the streets and nobody will stop to help them because the government is so corrupt and inept, there's a good chance the person who helped the child will be labeled the attacker because the police force is too lazy to investigate.

You can literally wake up one day and find out your house will be bulldozed in 24 hours, and the government gives you an apartment worth 1/10th the value in recompense.

Your own internet posts can be deleted or edited by the government. The stupidest shit is banned (stories with time travel, because they might glorify pre-Party China) and can get you thrown in jail.


damn and I thought china is already a second-world country
it sounds like third world problems
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KamenRiderBlade
05/26/19 11:48:25 AM
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Current_Events posted...
damn and I thought china is already a second-world country
it sounds like third world problems
In the big cities, they have 2nd world countries appearance with 3rd world country management & China quality stuff.

You just have to google up "China Quality" and all the products & stuff that randomly blows up, breaks down, or falls apart.

The endless mentality of cheap & disposable is too prevalent in Chinese product culture.
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Ricemills
05/26/19 11:56:50 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
The endless mentality of cheap & disposable is too prevalent in Chinese product culture.


and they applied that mentality to human resources too.
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DarkRoast
05/26/19 12:00:10 PM
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Ricemills posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
The endless mentality of cheap & disposable is too prevalent in Chinese product culture.


and they applied that mentality to human resources too.


Any fatality that can in any way be tied to the government's failure in oversight (Ex - the melamine baby formula milk scandal, or the Jiangxi dam bursting) results in the government going ballistic, finding some scapegoats, publicly sentencing them to death or life imprisonment, then patting itself on the back as the "protector of the people"
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KamenRiderBlade
05/26/19 12:35:42 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Any fatality that can in any way be tied to the government's failure in oversight (Ex - the melamine baby formula milk scandal, or the Jiangxi dam bursting) results in the government going ballistic, finding some scapegoats, publicly sentencing them to death or life imprisonment, then patting itself on the back as the "protector of the people"

And publicly discussing corruption is literally illegal. It's considered sewing public discord.
Don't forget this doozy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/25/chinese-rail-crash-cover-up-claims

They literally tried to bury the evidence with Bulldozers.

Then when enough complaints, they actually recover the trains by unearthing them; but by then the accident site was so contaminated that it was meaningless to do any forensic study on the trains.
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DarkRoast
05/26/19 12:40:11 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
DarkRoast posted...
Any fatality that can in any way be tied to the government's failure in oversight (Ex - the melamine baby formula milk scandal, or the Jiangxi dam bursting) results in the government going ballistic, finding some scapegoats, publicly sentencing them to death or life imprisonment, then patting itself on the back as the "protector of the people"

And publicly discussing corruption is literally illegal. It's considered sewing public discord.
Don't forget this doozy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/25/chinese-rail-crash-cover-up-claims

They literally tried to bury the evidence with Bulldozers.

Then when enough complaints, they actually recover the trains by unearthing them; but by then the accident site was so contaminated that it was meaningless to do any forensic study on the trains.


They literally got babies killed due to toxic milk formula being passed by bribed officials. The officials are still in power.
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KamenRiderBlade
05/26/19 12:40:52 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
They literally got babies killed due to toxic milk formula being passed by bribed officials. The officials are still in power
Of course they are, the CCP protects their own from criticism or mistakes.
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DarkRoast
05/26/19 12:46:55 PM
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I have to facepalm when people claim that stories about China are "western propaganda." If anything, the average American grossly underestimates the atrocities the Chinese government commits.

Any one of them would be a complete and total meltdown outrage in the US.
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KamenRiderBlade
05/26/19 12:51:14 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I have to facepalm when people claim that stories about China are "western propaganda." If anything, the average American grossly underestimates the atrocities the Chinese government commits.

Any one of them would be a complete and total meltdown outrage in the US.
Yup, it takes us folks with Chinese Heritage who understand whats going on over there, to bring the CCP's atrocities to light.
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hockeybub89
05/26/19 12:58:00 PM
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Blade-wolf posted...
And this is exactly what the left wants for the US.

Who on the left wants a social credit system?
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creativerealms
05/26/19 1:08:52 PM
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It's like someone saw the episode Nosedive from Black Mirror and thought, "we should model society after that."
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KamenRiderBlade
05/26/19 1:12:02 PM
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creativerealms posted...
It's like someone saw the episode Nosedive from Black Mirror and thought, "we should model society after that."
No, they said: "Hold my coffee, we can do something more horrific!"
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Kitt
05/26/19 1:19:45 PM
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EverDownward posted...
ModLogic posted...
not so different to being born in america and shot by cops or end up in prison for having a different skin tone

This has to be the most pathetic use of "yeah, but!" I've ever seen. China is a literal dystopian hellhole, and you want to go on about how bad some cops are. Holy mother of Christ, I hope this is just some shitty gimmick.

It is. All that account is known for is either getting into dumbass arguments or getting warned/suspended because of aforementioned dumbass arguments.
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ModLogic
05/26/19 4:45:47 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Of course they are, the CCP protects their own from criticism or mistakes.

not different to america when they bombed a hospital and blamed the missle
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
05/26/19 9:53:05 PM
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The_Thinker
05/26/19 10:20:23 PM
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creativerealms posted...
It's like someone saw the episode Nosedive from Black Mirror and thought, "we should model society after that."

I still think that would be a great idea. It would result in a much friendlier society.
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