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Superlinkbro 05/20/19 1:02:33 PM #51: |
Drugs are not an art or made by creative means. They shouldn't be compared.
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s0nicfan 05/20/19 1:06:21 PM #52: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...UnfairRepresent posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...I love long, uncited UR posts full of reefer madness Out of morbid curiosity, if he was able to show references for each of his claims with specific sources, would you actually change your mind and tell him that he was right? Or even if you don't do that, would your stance on marijuana use change? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoShadowhen 05/20/19 1:06:38 PM #53: |
Superlinkbro posted...
Drugs are not an art or made by creative means. They shouldn't be compared. Do you believe that we should ban unhealthy foods? Or do you limit this to things like alcohol, nicotine and caffeine? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 05/20/19 1:06:39 PM #54: |
BreezyExcursion posted...
i am not against marijuana as much as i am against dismissal of the negative effects of marijuana Well its because people use the well this can happen so itll happen to everyone! when listing all the negative effects. It just shows how naive they are. If you smoke marijuana, you lose ALL YOUR MEMORIES and your brain TURNS TO MUSH instantly!!! Like chill out. Understandable to not like it, as its not for everyone (some people do get overly anxious, etc), but you dont have to try and worse-case scenario reefer madness people. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 05/20/19 1:08:06 PM #55: |
s0nicfan posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...UnfairRepresent posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...I love long, uncited UR posts full of reefer madness Id be more willing to look at them (when free) if there was an actual correlation chart for all the references. Then you can actually go claim by claim instead of having to make your own map as to what relates to what. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Superlinkbro 05/20/19 1:10:14 PM #56: |
NeoShadowhen posted...
Superlinkbro posted...Drugs are not an art or made by creative means. They shouldn't be compared. I mean it's still food so no. Although some of the really bad stuff like artificial colors should probably be banned. I don't see why we shouldn't ban nicotine since it's just a nuisance anyway. --- PSN: Super_Link_Bro/Switch FC: SW-0496-6694-1794 Please let me know if you want to friend me beforehand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 05/20/19 1:11:46 PM #57: |
s0nicfan posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...UnfairRepresent posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...I love long, uncited UR posts full of reefer madness Go away and stop trying to stir up shit. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 05/20/19 1:12:56 PM #58: |
I figure we should treat it like alcohol - though it'd please my senses more if fewer people smoked and more vaped.
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Bass2 05/20/19 1:13:17 PM #59: |
It stinks something awful.
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s0nicfan 05/20/19 1:13:23 PM #60: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
s0nicfan posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...UnfairRepresent posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...I love long, uncited UR posts full of reefer madness I have never once seen somebody demand sources and actually turn around and say oh yes those sources have convinced me. People like you will bitch and moan and cause people to go out and waste actual time finding the references for their claims, but it'll never change your mind. If you're not actually going to believe anything he says, don't waste everyone's time complaining about sources. Just say you don't believe him and move on. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 05/20/19 1:14:44 PM #61: |
s0nicfan posted...
I have never once seen somebody demand sources and actually turn around and say oh yes those sources have convinced me. People like you will bitch and moan and cause people to go out and waste actual time finding the references for their claims, but it'll never change your mind. Like I said, quit trying to start shit. Its transparent and annoying. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 05/20/19 1:17:52 PM #62: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
s0nicfan posted...I have never once seen somebody demand sources and actually turn around and say oh yes those sources have convinced me. People like you will bitch and moan and cause people to go out and waste actual time finding the references for their claims, but it'll never change your mind. You have repeatedly poked fun at UR in this topic over references that you were never going to pay attention to anyway. You are literally the one trying to start shit. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoShadowhen 05/20/19 1:19:15 PM #63: |
Superlinkbro posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...Superlinkbro posted...Drugs are not an art or made by creative means. They shouldn't be compared. Fair enough. I suppose there will always be a small sliver of the population that thinks even caffeine should be banned, and obviously they arent going to be onboard with marijuana. Say what you will. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 05/20/19 1:20:09 PM #64: |
s0nicfan posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...s0nicfan posted...I have never once seen somebody demand sources and actually turn around and say oh yes those sources have convinced me. People like you will bitch and moan and cause people to go out and waste actual time finding the references for their claims, but it'll never change your mind. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deedice 05/20/19 1:23:14 PM #65: |
nemu posted...
I'm against the people who literally can't go five hours without it, but otherwise it's fine. --- Drake the type of dude to gather the Dragon Balls to wish that his ex finds a good man. - KMNL ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deedice 05/20/19 1:33:05 PM #66: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
s0nicfan posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...UnfairRepresent posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...I love long, uncited UR posts full of reefer madness So, youre lazy --- Drake the type of dude to gather the Dragon Balls to wish that his ex finds a good man. - KMNL ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 05/20/19 1:35:39 PM #67: |
Deedice posted...
I mean Im not going to do his work for him. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deedice 05/20/19 1:46:11 PM #68: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Deedice posted... He did more work than anyone else in this topic. You just dont want to do any work at all. Its not likely to change or affect any thoughts you have so youre better off dropping it anyway --- Drake the type of dude to gather the Dragon Balls to wish that his ex finds a good man. - KMNL ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 05/20/19 1:49:04 PM #69: |
there is no greater troll attempt than telling people to take ur seriously
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sktgamer_13dude 05/20/19 2:12:36 PM #70: |
Deedice posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...Deedice posted... I mean youre welcome to think that. But it makes no sense for me, asking him to back up his claims, to go through all of his links and find what claim theyre supposed to support. Do you think scholarly articles just vomit up sources at the end or do they actually at least have citations for every claim attached and then a giant list at the end? --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 05/20/19 2:14:25 PM #71: |
UR will never actually cite his claims properly because his factual posts are 90% hyperbole. Thats why he leaves giant link dumps instead of real citations. This isnt new.
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UnfairRepresent 05/20/19 2:24:55 PM #73: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...I love long, uncited UR posts full of reefer madness Problem with you people is you moan about citations but then don't actually read them when presented. Called it All of them match up to my claims. That's why I chose those links. Hell half the links flat out tell you what the research was in the link itself. But no matter what you will ignore them. It's a stupid cycle. "Oh you don't use citations!" "Oh tell me which citation to read." "Oh the citation you told me to read doesn't count! Therfore none of them count" "Hey why don't you post citations!?" You've already made up your mind, you don't care what scientists say It's pointless. And all this just to pretend smoking pot is healthy. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 05/20/19 2:26:09 PM #74: |
So what youre saying is that youre too lazy to actually be claim a is backed by link 1-4, claim b is backed by... and that you dont want us to actually look through any of your sources.
Got it. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 05/20/19 2:26:50 PM #75: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
UR will never actually cite his claims properly because his factual posts are 90% hyperbole. Thats why he leaves giant link dumps instead of real citations. This isnt new. Called it --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/20/19 2:31:55 PM #76: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So what youre saying is that youre too lazy to actually be claim a is backed by link 1-4, claim b is backed by... and that you dont want us to actually look through any of your sources. *Posts a valid argument* *Posts valid sources backing points* "UR LAZY because I won't read them!" Right... If I actually believed you would read a single link, I might do so. But considering you've already proven that you will never ever read a single one and also that even if you were forced to read one you would just ignore it, lie and insult people, I simply don't believe you. I absolutely love the fact "You simply have too much evidence, facts and logic, therefore you're wrong" is a strong argument in your mind. I think that sentence alone sums up the attitude of people who are trying to deny that smoking pot is a bad idea. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 05/20/19 2:33:01 PM #77: |
Link dumps are not citations
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codey 05/20/19 2:36:14 PM #78: |
Just clicking on one of UR's links:
"These findings are consistent with the idea of marijuana as a "gateway drug." However, the majority of people who use marijuana do not go on to use other, "harder" substances. Also, cross-sensitization is not unique to marijuana. Alcohol and nicotine also prime the brain for a heightened response to other drugs52 and are, like marijuana, also typically used before a person progresses to other, more harmful substances. It is important to note that other factors besides biological mechanisms, such as a persons social environment, are also critical in a persons risk for drug use. An alternative to the gateway-drug hypothesis is that people who are more vulnerable to drug-taking are simply more likely to start with readily available substances such as marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol, and their subsequent social interactions with others who use drugs increases their chances of trying other drugs. Further research is needed to explore this question" Even drugabuse.gov recognizes that it's BS. --- *runs out of topic naked* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kraidette 05/20/19 2:43:04 PM #80: |
DirkDiggles posted...
The Devil's Lettuce is a gateway drug. Don't smoke the Lucifer Leaves because it will make you stupid and lazy. I used to believe fairy tales like this and beliving in God. Then I started smoking and now I have a 100k a year job, a hot partner, a nice car and a awesome house. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/20/19 2:47:41 PM #81: |
*sigh*
Very well. Damage to brain: https://openarchive.ki.se/xmlui/handle/10616/38245 https://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.full Cancer + heart conditions + Stroke increased risk: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuana%E2%80%99s-effects-on-other-aspects-of-physical-health%3F https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26874461 https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17671-regular-marijuana-usage-robs-men-of-sexual-highs/ https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuana%E2%80%99s-effects-on-other-aspects-of-physical-health%3F Erectile Dysfunction, inability to orgasm, increased STI risk, harm to unborn children: https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)32873-3/fulltext https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana-medicine https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17671-regular-marijuana-usage-robs-men-of-sexual-highs/ Possible gateway drug: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug Mental disorders: https://www.nature.com/news/drop-in-iq-linked-to-heavy-teenage-cannabis-use-1.11278 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22927402 https://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain https://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.full (see also damage to brain) https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/how-does-marijuana-produce-its-effects Damage to employment, economic status: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160323082016.htm https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/legalized-marijuana-linked-sharp-rise-car-crashes-n921511 I now await the latest reason why these citations don't count you don't need to read them and smoking pot is healthy. At this point pot is a religion. You're anti science and just want to defend your tribe no matter what because your lord is infallible. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/20/19 2:50:40 PM #82: |
codey posted...
Just clicking on one of UR's links: "Oh you don't use citations!" "Oh tell me which citation to read." "Oh the citation you told me to read doesn't count! Therfore none of them count" "Hey why don't you post citations!?" Called it. Speaks volumes too that you intentionally cherry picked the weakest link, the Gateway drug one. Not any single one of the health related ones. It also never said "Marijuana being a gateway drug is bullshit" it said "People who started smoking Marijuana tend to lean into other drugs and harmful life activites but other factors might be involved." That's what scientists do. You can't go "They found a link but wonder about other factors therefore it doesn't matter." that's madness. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 05/20/19 2:50:50 PM #83: |
Not against it, but I'm less incline to hire someone if they're a pot head.
One guy I interviewed seem permabaked. He was slow to respond to every question asked, like there was an actual delay. There were also a number of potheads that I've worked with that didn't perform as well as the non-smokers. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThunderMuffin 05/20/19 2:52:30 PM #84: |
anyone against it is most likely weird
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GreatEvilEmpire 05/20/19 2:52:57 PM #85: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
*sigh* There are a lot of reason to not smoke pot and the studies are finally coming out that Marijuana can be addictive and can damage your health, not to mention hurt your career prospects. Just don't expect the pot heads to accept these findings. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/20/19 2:59:50 PM #87: |
fenderbender321 posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/09/stoned-drivers-are-a-lot-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/?utm_term=.56debc668e11 To my knowledge, no one is claiming driving drunk is better or healthier than driving high "Well drunk drivers killed 3 women last month" is little comfort to the mother whose daughter got run over by Bill who was high and hallucinating wedding bells while driving. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 05/20/19 3:04:17 PM #88: |
fenderbender321 posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/09/stoned-drivers-are-a-lot-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/?utm_term=.56debc668e11 Maybe so, but it doesn't make it acceptable. Stoned driving is still dangerous. Stoned drivers still space out from time to time and those crucial seconds of spacing out can cause accidents. But don't just take my word for it. Legalized marijuana linked to a sharp rise in car crashes https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/legalized-marijuana-linked-sharp-rise-car-crashes-n921511 --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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codey 05/20/19 3:04:53 PM #89: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/09/stoned-drivers-are-a-lot-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/?utm_term=.56debc668e11 Oh wow, you think weed makes you hallucinate. --- *runs out of topic naked* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/20/19 3:05:18 PM #90: |
codey posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...fenderbender321 posted...https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/09/stoned-drivers-are-a-lot-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/?utm_term=.56debc668e11 It can --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Superlinkbro 05/20/19 3:07:10 PM #91: |
NeoShadowhen posted...
Superlinkbro posted...NeoShadowhen posted...Superlinkbro posted...Drugs are not an art or made by creative means. They shouldn't be compared. I mean you got me there I like coffee and all that but I'm not fully against marijuana. --- PSN: Super_Link_Bro/Switch FC: SW-0496-6694-1794 Please let me know if you want to friend me beforehand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 05/20/19 3:46:28 PM #93: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
*sigh* Man was that so hard? Currently on break so Ill actually skim through these and try to respond within a couple hours. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 05/20/19 4:04:19 PM #95: |
fenderbender321 posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...fenderbender321 posted...https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/09/stoned-drivers-are-a-lot-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/?utm_term=.56debc668e11 Actually it does. That was an older article, but here's a new study that came out 5 days ago. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/9/5/e027432 https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/05/16/Pot-legalization-increases-car-crashes-injuries-but-little-effect-on-hospitalization/5341558008414/ "n Colorado, motor vehicle accidents went up by 10 percent and overdose injuries and death climbed by 5 percent after marijuana was legalized in the state, according to research published Wednesday in BMJ Open." Let's just be honest here. An increase of 10% is pretty significant. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/20/19 4:42:33 PM #97: |
-l___________l- posted...
It's really not. It's as "fine" as smoking Tabacco or drinking Whiskey or doing cocaine is "fine" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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codey 05/20/19 4:58:17 PM #98: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
-l___________l- posted... Lol --- *runs out of topic naked* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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coinstarcad 05/20/19 5:02:38 PM #99: |
I'm for cbd and against thc. Only sometimes the reverse of that.
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DirkDiggles 05/20/19 5:57:45 PM #100: |
Kraidette posted...
DirkDiggles posted...The Devil's Lettuce is a gateway drug. Don't smoke the Lucifer Leaves because it will make you stupid and lazy. Yeah, when your high wears off, you find out that your 100k a year job is minimum wage at McDonald's, your hot partner is just your waifu body pillow, your nice car is a beat up 1988 Ford Tempo, and your awesome home is living with your mom in a Manufactured Housing Community. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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