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Antifar
05/13/19 6:18:01 PM
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/youtubes-newest-far-right-foul-mouthed-red-pilling-star-is

[A few paragraphs detailing this 14-year-old girl's hugely offensive Youtube content]

Users, and more importantly to YouTube, advertisers, have over the past year started to hold the platform accountable for enabling the exploitation of children and exposing them to disturbing content. But this video reveals an entirely different way the platform is harming kids: By letting them express extreme views in front of the entire world. This is what indoctrination looks like when its reflected back by the indoctrinated.

A twenty-minute, unbroken and hyper-articulate tirade ostensibly about ignoring criticism online, Be Not Afraid stars a high school freshman from the Bay Area who goes by the name Soph on YouTube. (She edits and scores the videos, which she says are comedic, as well.) Through videos like these, shes become a rising star with more than 800,000 followers in the universe of conspiracy theorists, racists, and demagogues that owes its big bang to YouTube.

The video platform for years has incentivized such content through algorithms favoring sensational videos, and as recent reporting has revealed, has deliberately ignored toxic content as a growth strategy.

Sophs scripts, which she says she writes with a collaborator, are familiar: A mix of hatred towards Muslims, anti-black racism, byzantine fearmongering about pedophilia, tissue thin incel evolutionary psychology, and reflexive misanthropy that could have been copy and pasted from a thousand different 4chan posts. Of course, its all presented in the terminally ironic style popularized by boundary-pushing comedy groups like the influential Million Dollar Extreme and adopted of late by white supremacist mass shooters in Christchurch and San Diego.

(Soph is even more explicitly hateful on Discord, the gaming chat app, where she recently admitted to writing under the username lutenant [homophobic slur] that she hoped for A Hitler for Muslims to gas them all.)

By now, were used to this stuff coming from grown men some of whom have even used the platform as a launching pad for political aspirations. But Soph is a child. Despite the vitriol of her words and her confidence in delivering them, shes still just a 14-year-old kid. And hearing this language lisped through braces, with the odd word mispronounced as if read but never before said, is clarifying.

hink of Jonathan Krohn, the conservative child prodigy who addressed CPAC in 2013, at age 13. Today hes a freelance journalist who writes about extremism for liberal magazines, and has disowned his past views. Or think of Lynx and Lamb Gaede, who became media sensations as 11-year-old white nationalist twin pop singers in the mid aughts. Today theyve renounced racism and taken up marijuana legalization activism. Part of being a young person, maybe especially for a rhetorically gifted one, is testing out ideas and identities even ones we later find anathema. Thats not to excuse anything Soph says; but it is to say children often dont understand the weight of the words they use. (Neither Soph nor her father responded to requests for comment.)

Interviews with Soph and asides in her videos reveal a young person whose identity is obviously still being formed. She didnt start as a politics caster but, predictably, as a profane 9-year-old (nine!) game streamer called LtCorbis. Influential YouTubers Pyrocynical and Keemstar promoted her early work, which ripped on YouTube culture and the indignities of being a fifth grader instead of minorities and liberals. (A 2016 Daily Dot story about her bore the unintentionally profound headline, This sweary, savvy, 11-year-old gamer girl is the future of YouTube.)

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Antifar
05/13/19 6:18:57 PM
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YouTubes kid problem is well-known. From disturbing auto-generated cartoons, to parents who play act violence with their children for clicks, to a network of users exploiting videos of children for sexual content, the company has consistently failed at protecting the young users who are its most valuable assets. But Sophs popularity raises another, perhaps more difficult question, about whether YouTube has an obligation to protect such users from themselves and each other.

Of course, thats partially the job of parents, a fact Soph pointed out in a recent video while addressing people alarmed by her content.

Im wondering why theyre concerned with what I say instead of being concerned with the parents who let their kids watch me, she said.

Its unclear how much Sophs own parents know about her videos. Internet sleuths have figured out details about her parents lives, one of whom Soph has claimed voted for Hillary Clinton. In a recent interview, Soph said that her parents have never had a serious conversation with her about the politics of her videos, though she did respond angrily when a reporter attempted to contact her dad.

But the powers of parents over children who live online are limited. And YouTube has taken no ownership over what is happening to kids who grow up inhaling its trademark stench of bigotry, conspiracy, and nihilism. Now the kids, or the smart ones anyway, seem to know it. Indeed, YouTubes own incompetence and lack of quality is one of Sophs recurring themes; She acknowledges owing her fame to them.

The fact that I was 11 and could easily follow the commentary formula should have been a sign that the standards for the genre were terribly low, she said in the same interview.

Last month, after YouTube deactivated comments on her videos the platform disabled comments on all videos with children in response to an outcry over the aforementioned network of exploitation Soph uploaded a twelve-minute video in which she seemed to be daring the platform to suspend her, knowing full well that it wouldnt.

Susan, Ive known your address since last summer, Soph said, directly addressing YouTube CEO Susan Wojicki. Ive got a Luger and a mitochondrial disease. I dont care if I live, why should I care if you live or your children? I just called an Uber. Youve got about seven minutes to draft up a will. . .Im coming for you and it aint gonna be pretty.

A far-right child comedian threatening to murder the executive of the video site that has made her famous, for trying to protect her from pedophiles: The state of YouTube in 2019. (YouTube did not offer a comment for this story.)

Indeed, one of Sophs messages seems to be that in a world where the adults who have grown rich through technology took the implications of that technology seriously, she wouldnt exist. Shes a problem, she seems to be saying, of YouTubes own making.

You could beg me kicking and screaming to stop disseminating the ideas I believe in, and it wouldnt make a fucking difference, Soph says at the end of Be Not Afraid, in a passage in which she seems to drop her shtick, if only for a moment. Not only am I inoculated to that bullshit, most of Gen Z is too. Millennials grew up with MTV and nowadays watch Colbert. We, on the other hand, grew up with the internet, so we have no centralized source of information that controls what we think. We filter out the truth for ourselves; were not lazy. No one is brainwashing kids. Kids are simply learning from having free access to information, and theres nothing you can do about it.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/13/19 6:19:41 PM
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Literally buzzfeed
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Touch
05/13/19 6:24:30 PM
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MetalGearSquid
05/13/19 6:25:24 PM
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bruh, tl;dr that shit
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Antifar
05/13/19 6:27:18 PM
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Touch posted...
Tl;dr

14-year-old girl who would be swiftly banned on GameFAQs owing to her blatant racism and homophobia has amassed 800k subscribers on Youtube, and recently threatened to kill the site's CEO because they stopped allowing comments on videos with children.
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solosnake
05/13/19 6:28:08 PM
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pretty sure this was debunked as a hoax
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Freddie_Mercury
05/13/19 6:28:50 PM
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Antifar posted...
Susan, Ive known your address since last summer, Soph said, directly addressing YouTube CEO Susan Wojicki. Ive got a Luger and a mitochondrial disease. I dont care if I live, why should I care if you live or your children? I just called an Uber. Youve got about seven minutes to draft up a will. . .Im coming for you and it aint gonna be pretty.


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The Trent
05/13/19 6:37:51 PM
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what are you doing bored
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King_Hellebuyck
05/13/19 7:01:37 PM
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The world is fucking insane
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tennisdude818
05/13/19 7:45:27 PM
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If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?
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Guide
05/13/19 7:47:14 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?


What does this have to do with the topic?
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tennisdude818
05/13/19 7:50:33 PM
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Guide posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?


What does this have to do with the topic?


The topic is titled shit is bleak and per the tldr summary its just about some foul mouthed kid. Im trying to see why I should care or be concerned.
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Guide
05/13/19 7:53:30 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Guide posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?


What does this have to do with the topic?


The topic is titled shit is bleak and per the tldr summary its just about some foul mouthed kid. Im trying to see why I should care or be concerned.


That doesn't tell me what your post has to do with the topic, but also, a kid's being manipulated to say explicitly racist and biglted shit, almost carbon copied from stormfront, and has almost a million followers cause of it.
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Intro2Logic
05/13/19 7:56:19 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum

Which government? Because Texas or Arizona's control over their schools' curriculum is not something those on the left would or should cheer.
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tennisdude818
05/13/19 7:59:17 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum

Which government? Because Texas or Arizona's control over their schools' curriculum is not something those on the left would or should cheer.


Its moving in the direction that you like.
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Guide
05/13/19 9:22:47 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Intro2Logic posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum

Which government? Because Texas or Arizona's control over their schools' curriculum is not something those on the left would or should cheer.


Its moving in the direction that you like.


Make sure to be as vague as possible so you can maintain plausible deniability.

Even though you're transparent.
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hyperpsycho
05/13/19 9:25:44 PM
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This whole thing bums me out and makes me think there's no hope for the future. Everything is getting worse.
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littlebro07
05/13/19 9:27:53 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
Antifar posted...
Susan, Ive known your address since last summer, Soph said, directly addressing YouTube CEO Susan Wojicki. Ive got a Luger and a mitochondrial disease. I dont care if I live, why should I care if you live or your children? I just called an Uber. Youve got about seven minutes to draft up a will. . .Im coming for you and it aint gonna be pretty.


yikes


Sooo she's getting arrested right
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kayoticdreamz
05/13/19 10:06:45 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?

apparently they are only satisfied if literally everyone single person agrees with the hivemind of the left. No dissent or difference in opinion allowed. And if you do dissent or disagree you are by default a racist bigot sexist xenophobe homophobic alt righter regardless of the disagreement. This might sound like hyperbole, but it really isn't if anyone actually watches liberals and conservatives debate on any news channel anywhere.
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kayoticdreamz
05/13/19 10:07:43 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum

Which government? Because Texas or Arizona's control over their schools' curriculum is not something those on the left would or should cheer.

so two states out of 50? Even the republican states are moving more and more left. So again what exactly are liberals whining about?
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Guide
05/13/19 10:09:26 PM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?

apparently they are only satisfied if literally everyone single person agrees with the hivemind of the left. No dissent or difference in opinion allowed. And if you do dissent or disagree you are by default a racist bigot sexist xenophobe homophobic alt righter regardless of the disagreement. This might sound like hyperbole, but it really isn't if anyone actually watches liberals and conservatives debate on any news channel anywhere.


Provide an example, cause in this topic, the only example is actual racist diatribe, and it's a bad look for you.
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Antifar
05/13/19 10:11:27 PM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
apparently they are only satisfied if literally everyone single person agrees with the hivemind of the left. No dissent or difference in opinion allowed. And if you do dissent or disagree you are by default a racist bigot sexist xenophobe homophobic alt righter regardless of the disagreement.

To be clear, the subject of this article is someone who "admitted to writing under the username lutenant [moddable slur for gay people] that she hoped for A Hitler for Muslims to gas them all.)"
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hockeybub89
05/13/19 10:12:52 PM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?

apparently they are only satisfied if literally everyone single person agrees with the hivemind of the left. No dissent or difference in opinion allowed. And if you do dissent or disagree you are by default a racist bigot sexist xenophobe homophobic alt righter regardless of the disagreement. This might sound like hyperbole, but it really isn't if anyone actually watches liberals and conservatives debate on any news channel anywhere.

Not even a hint of self-awareness in this post
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Zerocide
05/13/19 10:13:55 PM
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social media is such a festering ocean of pus.

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coolboy11
05/13/19 10:14:14 PM
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Antifar posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
apparently they are only satisfied if literally everyone single person agrees with the hivemind of the left. No dissent or difference in opinion allowed. And if you do dissent or disagree you are by default a racist bigot sexist xenophobe homophobic alt righter regardless of the disagreement.

To be clear, the subject of this article is someone who "admitted to writing under the username lutenant [moddable slur for gay people] that she hoped for A Hitler for Muslims to gas them all.)"


many of his demo on the American right wants an outright Right Wing dictatorship just slightly more moderate than the Third Reich, why y'all waste time on these types with moderate dissent I have no clue.
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hockeybub89
05/13/19 10:15:21 PM
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Antifar posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
apparently they are only satisfied if literally everyone single person agrees with the hivemind of the left. No dissent or difference in opinion allowed. And if you do dissent or disagree you are by default a racist bigot sexist xenophobe homophobic alt righter regardless of the disagreement.

To be clear, the subject of this article is someone who "admitted to writing under the username lutenant [moddable slur for gay people] that she hoped for A Hitler for Muslims to gas them all.)"

I still don't know where all these people being wrongly branded Nazis for disagreeing with extreme left views are. Almost everyone here and everyone they know should be a Nazi pariah by now.
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Frolex
05/13/19 10:17:12 PM
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I remember this. A few years ago she went by LtCorbis and she was getting promoted by a bunch of bigger youtubers. The whole gimmick then was that "she's an 11 year old but she uses edgy 4chan memes and tells people to kill themselves omg how epic". She's clearly got parents or siblings that are encouraging her in her edgy alt-right views. Let's just hope she's one of the people that manages to break out of it before she grows up.
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Intro2Logic
05/13/19 10:35:02 PM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
so two states out of 50?

Those were just stand-ins for red states more broadly, but I will point out that because of its size, Texas' history standards tend to change textbooks for the nation as a whole:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/17/texas-textbook-inaccuracies/19175311/

The state is so large that publishers commonly market the books made for Texas to other states, said Josh Rosenau, programs and policy director for the National Center for Science Education, a California-based non-profit group that has reviewed some of the books.


https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/us/publisher-promises-revisions-after-textbook-refers-to-african-slaves-as-workers.html
Texas textbooks and how they address aspects of history, science, politics and other subjects have been a source of controversy for years in part because the state is one of the largest buyers of textbooks. In 2010, the Texas Board of Education approved a social-studies curriculum that put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks, including emphasizing Republican political achievements and movements. State-sanctioned textbooks have been criticized for passages suggesting Moses influenced the writing of the Constitution and dismissing the history of the separation of church and state.

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Blade-wolf
05/13/19 10:38:13 PM
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She's just some dumb kid. Who cares? She'll grow out of it. And if she doesn't, she'll soon end up in a correctional facility, laying her head in the lap of some burly woman named Big Bertha.
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AcFan87
05/13/19 10:45:32 PM
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This kid is hysterical and its even more hysterical that she's got people so damn triggered
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RebelElite791
05/13/19 10:47:01 PM
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Leave it to CE to either handwave or outright support a fucking child pushing white supremacist ideology and le epic maymays.
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Guide
05/13/19 10:48:34 PM
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AcFan87 posted...
This kid is hysterical and its even more hysterical that she's got people so damn triggered


Can you explain what's funny though?
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Axiom
05/13/19 10:50:28 PM
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Impressionable and naive kids getting indoctrinated by youtube far-righters is an epidemic. Just look at CE as proof. Their shit vids get linked here all the time
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AcFan87
05/13/19 10:51:43 PM
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Guide posted...
AcFan87 posted...
This kid is hysterical and its even more hysterical that she's got people so damn triggered


Can you explain what's funny though?

She explains facts in a funny manner and has more understanding of the world than 95% of the people on these boards and that has them triggered.
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Guide
05/13/19 10:56:55 PM
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AcFan87 posted...
Guide posted...
AcFan87 posted...
This kid is hysterical and its even more hysterical that she's got people so damn triggered


Can you explain what's funny though?

She explains facts in a funny manner and has more understanding of the world than 95% of the people on these boards and that has them triggered.


Nothing she says is factual, though. And if you consider wishing for a "Hitler for Muslims" as understanding the world, you're fucked. You are fucked.
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Gafemage
05/13/19 10:59:58 PM
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Guide posted...
Nothing she says is factual, though. And if you consider wishing for a "Hitler for Muslims" as understanding the world, you're fucked. You are fucked.

I mean, you're talking to this guy:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77655692/921780174
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SmidgeIsntBack
05/13/19 11:00:19 PM
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AcFan87 posted...
a funny manner


Can you actually break down the humor here though, because I'd like to see that. As others have said, she's just vocalizing your average 8chan posts.
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AcFan87
05/13/19 11:00:57 PM
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Gafemage posted...
Guide posted...
Nothing she says is factual, though. And if you consider wishing for a "Hitler for Muslims" as understanding the world, you're fucked. You are fucked.

I mean, you're talking to this guy:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77655692/921780174

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Solar_Crimson
05/13/19 11:16:08 PM
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@kayoticdreamz posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If youre on the left you should be pretty satisfied with how kids are brought up. The government controls much of the school curriculum, academia is so far left that being an open Marxist is often not even bad for your career, and pop culture is way left. What else do you want?

apparently they are only satisfied if literally everyone single person agrees with the hivemind of the left. No dissent or difference in opinion allowed. And if you do dissent or disagree you are by default a racist bigot sexist xenophobe homophobic alt righter regardless of the disagreement. This might sound like hyperbole, but it really isn't if anyone actually watches liberals and conservatives debate on any news channel anywhere.

This is literally true about the girl the OP is talking about, though.

@AcFan87 posted...
Guide posted...
AcFan87 posted...
This kid is hysterical and its even more hysterical that she's got people so damn triggered


Can you explain what's funny though?

She explains facts in a funny manner and has more understanding of the world than 95% of the people on these boards and that has them triggered.

What "facts"?
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Blue_Inigo
05/13/19 11:17:27 PM
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The kids are alt right
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Blue_Inigo
05/13/19 11:19:06 PM
#47:


AcFan87 posted...
Guide posted...
AcFan87 posted...
This kid is hysterical and its even more hysterical that she's got people so damn triggered


Can you explain what's funny though?

She explains facts in a funny manner and has more understanding of the world than 95% of the people on these boards and that has them triggered.

Anti semitism and white supremacy are facts to you?
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RebelElite791
05/13/19 11:19:27 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
The kids are alt right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hES9IBTPbcw&bpctr=1557805753

Lol comments disabled because nazi trolls overran them.
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kayoticdreamz
05/14/19 12:04:52 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
This is literally true about the girl the OP is talking about, though.

so debate her points on merit instead of instantly saying "YOU'RE RACIST" and trying to shut down the conversation before it even begins.
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RebelElite791
05/14/19 1:44:28 AM
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"Debate the person who calls for genocide instead of just calling them racist!"
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Guide
05/14/19 1:48:38 AM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
This is literally true about the girl the OP is talking about, though.

so debate her points on merit instead of instantly saying "YOU'RE RACIST" and trying to shut down the conversation before it even begins.


That would be giving merit to racism. It's... It's racism. Like, how much of her stuff have you read? Or do you think there's any merit to be argued on about genocide?
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Blue_Dream87
05/14/19 1:58:59 AM
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Y'all know you're responding to kayotic, right?

Just making sure
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