Current Events > Ocasio-Cortez's "New Green Deal" would bring the apocolypse to the US!

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Silver Bearings
12/31/18 12:46:27 PM
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(80/80)

100% renewables by 2030? When the wind isn't blowing or it's night, you'll have to do without electricity. WHAT?

No greenhouse gas from agriculture? This essentially means no meat. WHAT?

Free college tuition? If the "1%" paid for all college tuition they'd be broke in 2 years. How can a normal citizen afford that taxation? WHAT?

And so much more! The US would be bankrupt in 12 months. AO-C is a moron.
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UnfairRepresent
12/31/18 12:47:16 PM
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Meh the X-Men can handle it
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Bananana
12/31/18 12:47:20 PM
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Yikes @ TC
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Silver Bearings
12/31/18 12:47:42 PM
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I spelled "apocalypse" incorrectly...
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Ray_Dorset
12/31/18 12:48:08 PM
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Antifar
12/31/18 12:48:09 PM
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Silver Bearings posted...
Free college tuition? If the "1%" paid for all college tuition they'd be broke in 2 years. How can a normal citizen afford that taxation? WHAT?

We increased the military budget this past year by more than it would cost to provide free public tuition.
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Uncle Choad
12/31/18 12:49:12 PM
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Antifar posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
Free college tuition? If the "1%" paid for all college tuition they'd be broke in 2 years. How can a normal citizen afford that taxation? WHAT?

We increased the military budget this past year by more than it would cost to provide free public tuition.


Stuff isn't going to bomb itself!
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Uncle Choad
12/31/18 12:49:42 PM
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Is steak a conservative thing now?
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slimfizzle2
12/31/18 12:50:19 PM
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But what if the winds blowing at night


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Silver Bearings
12/31/18 12:51:09 PM
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slimfizzle2 posted...
But what if the winds blowing at night


Then you can have some intermittent electricity while you sleep.
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sobergermanguy
12/31/18 12:51:20 PM
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Great OP backed by facts lol
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AlephZero
12/31/18 12:52:41 PM
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Shitposting aside does she actually want us to be 100% renewable in ten years. She may be dumb but I have a hard time believing someone is that dumb.
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Silver Bearings
12/31/18 12:52:59 PM
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sobergermanguy posted...
Great OP backed by facts lol

Most of it is common sense, but I'll be waiting for the economic analysis of her plan to come out soon.
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Silver Bearings
12/31/18 12:53:35 PM
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AlephZero posted...
Shitposting aside does she actually want us to be 100% renewable in ten years. She may be dumb but I have a hard time believing someone is that dumb.

I know it is FoxNews, but, yeah...
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/if-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-succeeds-in-2019-it-will-be-the-most-radical-plan-offered-in-decades
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AlephZero
12/31/18 12:56:05 PM
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Silver Bearings posted...
AlephZero posted...
Shitposting aside does she actually want us to be 100% renewable in ten years. She may be dumb but I have a hard time believing someone is that dumb.

I know it is FoxNews, but, yeah...
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/if-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-succeeds-in-2019-it-will-be-the-most-radical-plan-offered-in-decades

I take it back then, she really is that stupid.
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Solar_Crimson
12/31/18 12:56:21 PM
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Antifar posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
Free college tuition? If the "1%" paid for all college tuition they'd be broke in 2 years. How can a normal citizen afford that taxation? WHAT?

We increased the military budget this past year by more than it would cost to provide free public tuition.

The right is okay with this, unfortunately.
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Vyrulisse
12/31/18 12:56:41 PM
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More pie in the sky dreams from her I suppose. It's an ideal future but not realistic.
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Silver Bearings
12/31/18 12:58:27 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
More pie in the sky dreams from her I suppose. It's an ideal future but not realistic.

100% renewables will be possible one day and should be a goal. We need to invest more research monies into renewable energy production and ESPECIALLY energy storage so that solar/wind/hydro/geothermal power can be stored and transported as needed. 2050 is a more likely target date, but even that will be difficult.
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Space_Man
12/31/18 12:59:09 PM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Antifar posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
Free college tuition? If the "1%" paid for all college tuition they'd be broke in 2 years. How can a normal citizen afford that taxation? WHAT?

We increased the military budget this past year by more than it would cost to provide free public tuition.


Stuff isn't going to bomb itself!

But they can't make bombs if nobody is educated. Check mate, righties
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Funkydog
12/31/18 12:59:35 PM
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Nothing wrong with pushing for trying to get these targets or something like them.

Something does need to be done, and with Trump doing everything he can to defy any attempts someone pushing for open, honest and hard reform is good even if the "ideal" isn't likely. Better to try than condemn the world for future generations so the multi billionaires can make a few more bucks while your average person suffers from it.
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MaverickXeo
12/31/18 12:59:53 PM
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To be fair, a lot of what she says she wants to do would have massive changes to society. Greenhouse gasses dropping to zero in agriculture is impossible currently, unless we drastically cut back on production (and people would starve).

The US also does not have the means to support 100% renewable energy within ten years... it will take a long time to get there (if ever).

College being 'free' would result in higher standards for application as class sizes would increase substantially. Bigger classes and more people attending would mean that standards for employment would also need to increase to support a more competitive job market.
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Silver Bearings
12/31/18 1:00:00 PM
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Silver Bearings posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
More pie in the sky dreams from her I suppose. It's an ideal future but not realistic.

100% renewables will be possible one day and should be a goal. We need to invest more research monies into renewable energy production and ESPECIALLY energy storage so that solar/wind/hydro/geothermal power can be stored and transported as needed. 2050 is a more likely target date, but even that will be difficult.

My whole career is in the energy sector, so I know a little bit at least.
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MaverickXeo
12/31/18 1:03:29 PM
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Silver Bearings posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
More pie in the sky dreams from her I suppose. It's an ideal future but not realistic.

100% renewables will be possible one day and should be a goal. We need to invest more research monies into renewable energy production and ESPECIALLY energy storage so that solar/wind/hydro/geothermal power can be stored and transported as needed. 2050 is a more likely target date, but even that will be difficult.

My whole career is in the energy sector, so I know a little bit at least.


Exactly, it is not currently possible. With technology advancement, it may be.

One thing to remember though is that renewable energies DO RELY HEAVILY ON non-renewable energies. Batteries are not renewable, windmills need oil and gas in production and maintenance, solar panels are made using oil and gas products, etc.
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Vyrulisse
12/31/18 1:05:06 PM
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Silver Bearings posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
More pie in the sky dreams from her I suppose. It's an ideal future but not realistic.

100% renewables will be possible one day and should be a goal. We need to invest more research monies into renewable energy production and ESPECIALLY energy storage so that solar/wind/hydro/geothermal power can be stored and transported as needed. 2050 is a more likely target date, but even that will be difficult.

My whole career is in the energy sector, so I know a little bit at least.

I agree there's nothing wrong with pushing for it, we're going to have to eventually anyway and if we have the technology or if it's "around the corner" then yeah it should be a priority. I'll take your word for it that you know about this stuff so I'll defer to your experience on this matter.
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