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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:36:50 PM
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Why do companies do this. Fuck you Square. Fuck you Nomura. Go die.

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HiddenLurker
12/29/18 3:38:17 PM
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Cause assholes steal shipments to be first on youtube which actually did happen with KH3.
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Umbreon
12/29/18 3:38:30 PM
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If I had to guess, it's so assholes who don't get the game early don't leak the ending early.
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Vyrulisse
12/29/18 3:39:15 PM
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If you're a legit buyer why would it matter? You'll get all the stuff day 1 anyway.
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WaffIeElite
12/29/18 3:39:22 PM
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Because most game companies are shit now, especially ones that do console gaming (Because stupid kids will just buy anything).
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:40:43 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
If you're a legit buyer why would it matter? You'll get all the stuff day 1 anyway.

I want companies to stop eroding the value of physical games media by releasing incomplete shit that requires digital downloads to make it not shit.
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Zack_Attackv1
12/29/18 3:41:13 PM
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Because we live in the year 2018?

Duh?
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Vyrulisse
12/29/18 3:41:34 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
If you're a legit buyer why would it matter? You'll get all the stuff day 1 anyway.

I want companies to stop eroding the value of physical games media by releasing incomplete shit that requires digital downloads to make it not shit.

Physical game media is on its last legs, just gotta accept that.
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_Rinku_
12/29/18 3:41:46 PM
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It's a secret ending, not the game's actual ending. It's like a bonus that sets up the next game.
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SSJKirby
12/29/18 3:41:53 PM
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it's not for the ending, it's for the secret movie that plays after
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Leanaunfurled
12/29/18 3:42:48 PM
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The ending and prologue are there, the secret bonus movie is not.
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UnfairRepresent
12/29/18 3:43:39 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
If you're a legit buyer why would it matter? You'll get all the stuff day 1 anyway.

I want companies to stop eroding the value of physical games media by releasing incomplete shit that requires digital downloads to make it not shit.

Physical game media is on its last legs, just gotta accept that.

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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:44:28 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Physical game media is on its last legs, just gotta accept that.

No reason to not fight it. The death of physical media literally only benefits the producers and does nothing but harm the consumer.
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Vyrulisse
12/29/18 3:45:21 PM
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I agree but it's too late to do anything about it.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:46:55 PM
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I'm honestly contemplating a boycott of the game over this.
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Umbreon
12/29/18 3:48:18 PM
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An actual boycott?

Or "Pirate the game" boycott?
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:49:15 PM
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I've never pirated a game, so probably not.
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Foppe
12/29/18 3:50:25 PM
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PilkUFp
This boycott.
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_Rinku_
12/29/18 3:52:03 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I'm honestly contemplating a boycott of the game over this.

Okay. Deny yourself the chance to play a game you were presumably looking forward to over a completely imagined slight.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:52:11 PM
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Still haven't bought Spyro Reignited.

If I decide to not buy something out of contempt I'll stick to it.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:52:49 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Okay. Deny yourself the chance to play a game you were presumably looking forward to over a completely imagined slight.

What's imagined about it?
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Crepes
12/29/18 3:58:24 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Physical game media is on its last legs, just gotta accept that.

No reason to not fight it. The death of physical media literally only benefits the producers and does nothing but harm the consumer.


I disagree. If I break a disc or lose it then I lose the game. Cant do that with digital. Thats a big positive to me.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 3:58:53 PM
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Who posted
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Akagami_Shanks
12/29/18 4:00:08 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Still haven't bought Spyro Reignited.

If I decide to not buy something out of contempt I'll stick to it.

Then don't buy it, literally nobody cares except you
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 4:01:24 PM
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Never asked anyone else to care. Lower your tone, child.
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creativerealms
12/29/18 4:02:12 PM
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Because thats the industry standard.
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SSJKirby
12/29/18 4:02:57 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I'm honestly contemplating a boycott of the game over this.

over a piece of optional content you likely wouldn't see day one anyway?
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Akagami_Shanks
12/29/18 4:03:30 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Never asked anyone else to care. Lower your tone, child.

You're posting about boycotting the game expecting anyone to join your side over something so minor that you're the child in this situation
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 4:04:25 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
expecting anyone to join your side over something so minor

Please tell me where I was recruiting.

This is a personal boycott.
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dave_is_slick
12/29/18 4:05:37 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
expecting anyone to join your side over something so minor

Please tell me where I was recruiting.

This is a personal boycott.

People have given you real actual reasons as to why this is happening. When are you going to acknowledge those?
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Sajo
12/29/18 4:06:23 PM
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Crepes posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Physical game media is on its last legs, just gotta accept that.

No reason to not fight it. The death of physical media literally only benefits the producers and does nothing but harm the consumer.


I disagree. If I break a disc or lose it then I lose the game. Cant do that with digital. Thats a big positive to me.

Lose the servers and you cant download the game ever again.
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_Rinku_
12/29/18 4:06:45 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
Okay. Deny yourself the chance to play a game you were presumably looking forward to over a completely imagined slight.

What's imagined about it?

NibeIungsnarf posted...
Why is KH3 shipping incomplete and requiring a day 1 patch for the ending?
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ultimate reaver
12/29/18 4:07:29 PM
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Because most people have an internet connection for their console these days so they feel like they can get away with it for better or for worse
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 4:08:03 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
People have given you real actual reasons as to why this is happening. When are you going to acknowledge those?


I don't know what that means.

Like I read the posts and I understand the rationale.

Doesn't change that the product is incomplete without a day 1 patch.
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Touch
12/29/18 4:11:52 PM
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I read on the official fb a month or so ago that someone had gotten ahold of the ending and had it circulating. Day 1 patch for the bonus/secret ending would help combat that a bit
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dave_is_slick
12/29/18 4:14:02 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
People have given you real actual reasons as to why this is happening. When are you going to acknowledge those?


I don't know what that means.

Like I read the posts and I understand the rationale.

Doesn't change that the product is incomplete without a day 1 patch.

Clearly you don't, considering the very next sentence.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/29/18 4:15:11 PM
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You seem confused.
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Darkinsanity1
12/29/18 4:19:36 PM
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I don't really understand why people are upset or annoyed by this...they literally do it to protect people from seeing the secret ending too early in case the game is leaked early, which has already happened as has been mentioned in this thread.

It's the secret ending from what I've heard and it will probably be available as a day one patch, don't really see the issue.
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Crepes
12/29/18 4:31:03 PM
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Sajo posted...
Crepes posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Physical game media is on its last legs, just gotta accept that.

No reason to not fight it. The death of physical media literally only benefits the producers and does nothing but harm the consumer.


I disagree. If I break a disc or lose it then I lose the game. Cant do that with digital. Thats a big positive to me.

Lose the servers and you cant download the game ever again.


Sure thats a possibility. To me its still a benefit. The idea there are zero benefits to it is just down rogjtnwrong.
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Banjo2553
12/29/18 4:47:51 PM
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Sajo posted...
Crepes posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Physical game media is on its last legs, just gotta accept that.

No reason to not fight it. The death of physical media literally only benefits the producers and does nothing but harm the consumer.


I disagree. If I break a disc or lose it then I lose the game. Cant do that with digital. Thats a big positive to me.

Lose the servers and you cant download the game ever again.

That's a possibility, but you can also just keep it in your harddrive and never delete it.
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Leanaunfurled
12/29/18 4:49:02 PM
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I understand the rationale that TC has. To me, though, the Internet and things like our consoles connected to it is expected these days. Sure there are people with no Internet or Internet with data caps, but they're the minority, and I understand why a company would make decisions based off the vast majority instead. To be frank, it's a "get with the times or fall behind" kind of thing. Similar to how I had to buy a new TV back when I was trying to play PS3 games on my dinosaur SDTV (lol, I know).

I don't understand the argument in favor of a secret movie being day one patch locked, though. The full game, with the ending and prologue, is on disc so it isn't a matter of keeping away spoilers. Best I can think of is the secret bonus movie needs some final touches while the game itself was ready to go gold.

I don't think it's worth boycotting, personally. It also just doesn't affect me and I see it as minor. but I'm not TC and I don't share his values. If he wants to boycott and stick to his values, props to him.
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