Board 8 > Persona 5 Mafia Topic 7- Bank of Gluttony

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Hbthebattle
12/27/18 11:08:26 PM
#1:


Here you go guys, votals at etc. in a minute
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Hbthebattle
12/27/18 11:11:28 PM
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Player List (12)
1. Ashethan
2. benjamin3740
8. Hbthebattle
9. htaeD
10. IfGodCouldDie
11. Johnbobb
13. MZero11
14. Neablis
15. red13n
17. ScareChan
19. Sheep007
20. DoomTheGyarados (replaced Terra-enforcer)

Knocked out
5. eaedwards6400 - Sojiro Sakura, TOWN Vanilla (LD1)
16. Reg - Goro Akechi, MAFIA Detective Godfather (KN1)
7. HanOfTheNekos - Tae Takemi, TOWN Doctor (KN1)
4. Dark Young Link - Kunikazu Okumura, MAFIA Businessman (LD2)
9. htaeD - Joker / Ren Amamiya, TOWN Leader of the Phantom Thieves (KN2)
6. garetha200 - Futaba Sakura, TOWN Day Schizophrenic (MKN2)
12. Sceptilesolar (replaced masterplum) - Suguru Kamoshida, MAFIA Stalker (LD3)
18. Shaduln - Makoto Niijima, TOWN Cop (KN3)
3. Corrik - Toranosuke Yoshida, TOWN Martyr (KN3)
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benjamin3740
12/27/18 11:12:15 PM
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Hbthebattle
12/27/18 11:12:52 PM
#4:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
red13n posted...
Also sorry to immediately throw a wrench into your PoE but...

We can safely assume one of the scum is Madarame.


Hm, no problem at all. Explain a bit more? Also I concur with that as my flavor is his student.

Chris, mind saying the name of your flavor?
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MZero11
12/27/18 11:17:00 PM
#5:


Hmm, Scare's character is a boss and has a palace, just as DYL (Okumura) and Plum (Kamoshida). She seems like she would fit more as scum in this setup
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MZero11
12/27/18 11:17:49 PM
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Although I guess Futaba also has a palace but still that's a little different >_>
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Hbthebattle
12/27/18 11:19:44 PM
#7:


Sae is also a Confidant, and she definitely is not treated the same way as the other Targets.
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benjamin3740
12/27/18 11:20:32 PM
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She's a good guy. And why wpould scum ever claim their real flavor in a game where the flavor was said by many to be clear cut
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MZero11
12/27/18 11:25:09 PM
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She's like the one exception to it being clear cut, being a target and a confidant!
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ScareChan
12/27/18 11:36:52 PM
#10:


I cant make it to endgame, its silly to lynch me right now
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MZero11
12/27/18 11:39:56 PM
#11:


I have no interest in lynching Scare today regardless
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Arti
12/27/18 11:56:19 PM
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Votals, as of #11
Sheep [3] - (Chris), Hb, Death, Ben
Johnbobb [2] - MZero, (ben), (Sheep), Neablis
Chris [1] - Sheep

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Day ends at 10:00 PM on Friday, December 28th, approximately twenty-two hours from now.
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Corrik
12/28/18 12:15:54 AM
#13:


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MZero11
12/28/18 12:30:29 AM
#14:


So the last unclaimed are me, Ashe, Chris, and John right?
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 12:34:10 AM
#15:


Oh yeah. That's something johnnybob can do right now
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MZero11
12/28/18 12:45:03 AM
#16:


Let's get some votes on JB and get that claim imo
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ScareChan
12/28/18 12:49:17 AM
#17:


dont think he even needs the votes

claim for me bobby
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:09:29 AM
#18:


topic 1 post 481

IGCD makes a post saying that he did something only to protect himself and it just feels like a post I dont think he makes as scum
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:12:37 AM
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also I 'caught' plums slot twice and thats funny to me

he straight flipped calling han scum to following on reg, and then scept was like "why you guys dont like me" but also "hey but deaths role did xxxxx"
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:17:02 AM
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I know everyone thinks battle is town

but him vs reg looks really good. I liked a lot him calling out reg for piggybacking me but trying to say that he was sus on battle before that
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:19:55 AM
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terra early on in topic 2 calls reg scum and also shades dyl in the same post

someone said terra likes to bus but your godfather and your blocker in the same post is pretty heavy, think its just town points
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:23:42 AM
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that was 140 topic 2 for the terra post

149 from reg

Like, did Shad literally show up, make his first and only posts of the game on eaed's claim, and then disappear again?

MZero is still MIA

Gareth is literally on the player list.

Ditto Johnbobb

I think Nebalis posted in this topic?

DYL as mentioned above

etc etc


I dont think he lists 3 buddies here so I think its only 1 of bob or miz
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:24:40 AM
#23:


eh scratch that. it was just talking about inactives you kind of have to list them all

but he did skip ashe
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:26:33 AM
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also in this read I am skipping dead town and most of red posts and most of my own, it makes it go pretty quick >_>
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:27:37 AM
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ashe intro post

Sorry I've not been more active. Been busy with work. But I've been following along when I can, and should be able to be more active now.

I don't see what was so bad about Ed's claim. He mixed his text up a little, but given that he hasn't played Persona 5, I could see him doing that. His response afterward makes me a lot more concerned. But does Scum Ed go after Scare, one of the top players, like that? Watching him as scum in TV Crossover, he seemed a lot less proactive. He sort of let things happen and avoided getting lynched because he didn't claim. I mean his first vote wasn't great, but does scum Ed stir the pot that early when he doesn't have to?

Red's right in that we shouldn't just 'town confirm' so easily. Especially not on day 1 before we've had a single flip.

Reg's early defensiveness still strikes me as a bit off. I don't remember playing with him that well, though I don't seem to remember him being defensive. He also says that he doesn't want the day to stagnate, but he's not really pushed HB that much (despite that being where his vote has been). instead choosing to discuss inactives (Okay, fair. I'm one of them. And we do need more activity). HB is still pretty new, right? I mean I could definitely see a newer player seeing that and thinking "Aha! Gotcha scum!" on Ed's mix up. Even if other players were saying that the host writes fakeclaims. If HB were a hardened vet, I'd be concerned about him. But so far I've mostly liked his posts.

Corrik not being around is strange, since he's usually the most active. But scum corrik is usually very manipulative. I think he plays a very psychological game. Town Corrik does too, though. His playstyle seems to change from game to game.

Does MZero still always roll scum? I know he rolled town in my game, but has he started rolling town more often? I know he's usually excited to play town. Then again, he might just be busy like me.

For now, I think I'll throw my vote on Reg. ##Vote: Reg

Of all the players so far, he's stood out the most to me in a negative way. His case on HB is a bit weak, and without any teeth.

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benjamin3740
12/28/18 1:28:51 AM
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Only one of Johnbob/Mzero can be scum for obvious reasons imo
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:35:41 AM
#27:


how dare reg vote my good buddy ben

that dastard
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:36:39 AM
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2-227 sheep

I don't think I've been in a game with Reg before, but I'm not leaning anywhere near as much towards scum on him as others seem to be. I'm not sure I particularly understand the case against him as a whole, or rather I feel that the points are really poorly justified.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 1:44:07 AM
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ScareChan posted...
how dare reg vote my good buddy ben

that dastard

Oh yeah that was fun!
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:53:58 AM
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dyl 2-303

Corrik concerns me because he seems passive right now, and the last time I saw Corrik just laying there he was scum. Though I fully admit I don't get a really solid read on him until like day 3 or so.

Apparently he sees Plum and/or Sheep as bad with a town read on Red.

IfGodCouldDie... He stopped shitposting, and hasn't really done much of anything after that. Like he voted eaed, but even that could be seen as just a counter vote.

red13n I'm liking so far, early on he's trying to actually get other people on the person he's voting for. He's additionally asking questions and making sure no one goes under notice for too long, reads towny to me.

Neablis...

Neablis posted...
I will join you han as i agree

##Vote: Eaed

I don't think he spoke to Han prior to this.

He follows Han, later explains how he normally votes super late, and ultimate... doesn't really give too many unique thoughts.

I'd like to hear who he thinks is town/scum right now and why.


he also started game with fake vig on igcd, already talks about plum here, not sure if he names two scum

also I remember calling him out for this post too because he liked red for trying to get people to vote with him. Like this was such a trash post
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:55:43 AM
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lol 318 dyl

Corrik posted...
Plus, Plum and Sheep are scum too.

How come?


I think this like just says sheep is scum too and dyl was like

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/027/475/Screen_Shot_2018-10-25_at_11.02.15_AM.jpg
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ScareChan
12/28/18 1:58:18 AM
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2-344 sheep when asked from dyl for town and scum


As someone else has mentioned a bit further down, I always rather to come across as confident. It's cause it puts more pressure on people and makes my reads clear. Scare is my top Town read and the difference between scum/town Scare feels like night and day so I'm very sure on that one. Activity levels, how much he's created discussion, etc. I still feel moderately confident on HB as town as well, though to a lesser extent when compared to before. Unlike just about everyone else, apparently, I think Reg is town. The only person I feel is town on his lynch is HB and Reg's been active and attempting to scumhunt more than just about every other player. IGCD is also a town lean for his start to the game but that's mostly gut.

Scum... Not so many. Ed's a pretty big scumread still but there's nobody else I'm confident enough to call scum yet. Will probably start paying more attention for the last few hours since I should be available from now til about deadline.

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ScareChan
12/28/18 2:00:29 AM
#33:


369 dyl

Han, you mentioned you a scum read on Terra right? I believe you explained Reg and eaed but didn't really go into him outside of "gut", unless I skimmed over something?

think looking for reason to vote townie here
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MZero11
12/28/18 2:09:32 AM
#34:


ScareChan posted...
lol 318 dyl

Corrik posted...
Plus, Plum and Sheep are scum too.

How come?


I think this like just says sheep is scum too and dyl was like

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/027/475/Screen_Shot_2018-10-25_at_11.02.15_AM.jpg


ScareChan posted...
369 dyl

Han, you mentioned you a scum read on Terra right? I believe you explained Reg and eaed but didn't really go into him outside of "gut", unless I skimmed over something?

think looking for reason to vote townie here


Why do you think DYL asking for reasoning on Sheep = scumSheep but DYL asking for reasoning on Terra = townTerra?
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ScareChan
12/28/18 2:29:05 AM
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because it was corrik listing 2 scum together, and terra he went out of his way to list it

I could be wrong but its how it reads to me, and likely having some bias thinking that terra looked good vs reg so thinking it was townie anyways
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ScareChan
12/28/18 2:34:12 AM
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https://log-faqs.com/post.php?id=914350095&db=0

take out the - between the log and faqs

I doubt that reg addresses just two buddys in the same post like this. Another reason I think igcd is town
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htaeD
12/28/18 4:29:13 AM
#37:


ScareChan posted...
I cant make it to endgame, its silly to lynch me right now


says who?
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htaeD
12/28/18 4:30:52 AM
#38:


Like, there is no reason you arent next to die now, Scare.
Unless you arent town.
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ScareChan
12/28/18 4:49:25 AM
#39:


So let me die and you and red both live
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ScareChan
12/28/18 4:50:23 AM
#40:


Or did you misread and think I said I can go to endgame
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htaeD
12/28/18 5:05:24 AM
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I did misread
welp

I mean I wasnt desiring to lynch you today anyway. I just dont feel like givingyou the benefit of the doubt.

Nevertheless, you must say who you are going to block tonight.
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ScareChan
12/28/18 5:10:40 AM
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I've been using it as protection
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htaeD
12/28/18 5:21:44 AM
#43:


I'd rather you use it as a weapon against scum at this point.
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ScareChan
12/28/18 5:53:39 AM
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Calling my shot Just makes then send the kill with someone else
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htaeD
12/28/18 6:19:56 AM
#45:


Its still useful to have the info in case we later have 1 scum left
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Sheep007
12/28/18 8:49:17 AM
#46:


red13n posted...
Sheep I want the same from you.

Not sure exactly, but it would go something like

God/Chris
John/MZero/Brn
HB/Ashe
Scare

I have no particular preference within the tiers right now but from top to bottom is probably the order. Not particularly concrete and subject to change at a moment's notice.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 10:02:59 AM
#47:


If scum team is 6 how many mislynches do we have left?
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DoomTheGyarados
12/28/18 10:03:42 AM
#48:


2 until mylo.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 10:06:10 AM
#49:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
2 until mylo.

Glad you answered, are you willing to stake the game on lynching me John and sheep if each one of us flips town?
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DoomTheGyarados
12/28/18 10:12:07 AM
#50:


Okay anyway got about 15 minutes before I have to get running so let's do some fun ANALYSIS.

Super Mason Recruiter
Town Cop
Town Doctor
Town Schizo
Town whatever Red is that can be recruited by Mason Recruiter (this was unclear to me)
Town Vig
Town Martyr
Town Jailkeeper (SUPPOSEDLY)

7 Power claimed, but possibly 8 with Red's role being able to be upgraded or something (mechanics confused)

5/6 Scum

Meaning counting red as a vanilla 7-8 vanilla

Hm.

No one bit on my Scare has to be scum really aside from a "??" so <_<.

I don't think you're on the right track unless you know something I do not, Red. I feel like forgeries would have to do with messing up scans in some ways.
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