Current Events > My wife OB drug tested my wife during the initial lab work. Is this normal?

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I understand asking it or even saying she wants to but she didn't even ask, we saw it on the lab results. I think it's fucking ridiculous since we didn't ask for it and that she didn't say anything at all about it. What should we do?
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.....Wut
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can you say that again in english please?
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Sounds like she was just trying to drum up extra lab costs for the insurance company, but then, I haven't been in your situation, so I'm not sure if it's "normal."
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Is she pregnant? I believe drug tests are standard.

VipaGTS posted...

can you say that again in english please?

Do you know how to read?
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ConfessPlease posted...

VipaGTS posted...

can you say that again in english please?

Do you know how to read?

"My wife OB drug tested my wife during the initial lab work."

She OB drug tested herself?
What is an OB drug test?
what was the lab work for?
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EscapeFromHell posted...

Sounds like she was just trying to drum up extra lab costs for the insurance company, but then, I haven't been in your situation, so I'm not sure if it's "normal."

Yeah sorry I mean during her initial blood screen during her first pregnancy visit.
Cleo_II posted...

Is she pregnant? I believe drug tests are standard.

Alright I wasn't sure it was standard. I was looking online and read that it was mostly optional.
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VipaGTS posted...

ConfessPlease posted...

VipaGTS posted...

can you say that again in english please?

Do you know how to read?

"My wife OB drug tested my wife during the initial lab work."

She OB drug tested herself?
What is an OB drug test?
what was the lab work for?

Sorry I didn't read my topic title. My wife's doctor tested my wife for drugs without telling usm
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VipaGTS posted...

ConfessPlease posted...

VipaGTS posted...

can you say that again in english please?

Do you know how to read?

"My wife OB drug tested my wife during the initial lab work."

She OB drug tested herself?
What is an OB drug test?
what was the lab work for?

His wife's OB (doctor) drug tested his wife.
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It is normal, and deal with it
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ooohhh...Ok i get it now. Yea i think that's standard.
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I had a family go ballistic on me when I ordered a pregnancy test on an 18 year old with abdominal pain and menstrual irregularities.

I know your holy virgin daughter hasn't even been introduced to the concept of sex, but most have by that age, so deal with it.
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Some of it (whether or not its mandatory) likely depends on state law, but it is standard practice to obtain some type of drug screen during pregnancy even if its just verbal. personally i tend to tell my patients what Im ordering.

Im sure @MrPeppers could confirm since i dont do much OB counseling

I can tell you though that if they have suspicion and you refused, they would just test your baby after birth, which technically they dont need consent for
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DarkRoast posted...

I had a family go ballistic on me when I ordered a pregnancy test on an 18 year old with abdominal pain and menstrual irregularities.

I know your holy virgin daughter hasn't even been introduced to the concept of sex, but most have by that age, so deal with it.

Was she pregnant tho?
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119949/

TL;DR: Hire a lawyer.

The United States Supreme Court has ruled that hospital workers cannot test pregnant women for use of illegal drugs without their informed consent or a valid warrant if the purpose is to alert the police to a potential crime.

another topic with fucking snobby ignorantly blatantly wrong answers from the fine citizens of CE.
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rikasa posted...

The United States Supreme Court has ruled that hospital workers cannot test pregnant women for use of illegal drugs without their informed consent or a valid warrant if the purpose is to alert the police to a potential crime.

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rikasa posted...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119949/

TL;DR: Hire a lawyer.

The United States Supreme Court has ruled that hospital workers cannot test pregnant women for use of illegal drugs without their informed consent or a valid warrant if the purpose is to alert the police to a potential crime.

another topic with fucking snobby ignorantly blatantly wrong answers from the fine citizens of CE.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension skills
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What was her purpose then? Curiosity? I think that line is unclear. It might be saying that's the purpose of the warrant.
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DarkRoast posted...

rikasa posted...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119949/

TL;DR: Hire a lawyer.

The United States Supreme Court has ruled that hospital workers cannot test pregnant women for use of illegal drugs without their informed consent or a valid warrant if the purpose is to alert the police to a potential crime.

another topic with fucking snobby ignorantly blatantly wrong answers from the fine citizens of CE.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension skills

you certainly seem to. you also clearly have 0 empathy for ur patients
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DarkRoast misread the topic which is fair because it's word salad.
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The purpose of drug testing is for the safety of the baby, to warn parents of potential teratogenic/ birth defects from drug use, for the OB team caring for the mother, and so that the baby can be appropriately triaged after birth if concerns will be present for withdrawal, etc.

Regardless reporting results of the UDS to the police is a clear violation of HIPAA.

Good job not sounding snobby or ignorant though
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Under your interpretation, which pregnant women can't be drug tested without consent?
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Another success by the the American educational system.
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rikasa posted...

Under your interpretation, which pregnant women can't be drug tested without consent?

Seriously just stop
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DarkRoast posted...

rikasa posted...

Under your interpretation, which pregnant women can't be drug tested without consent?

Seriously just stop

close your fucking account and leave
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Is a doctor literally telling me that pregnant women have no right to informed consent? Is this real?
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rikasa posted...

Is a doctor literally telling me that pregnant women have no right to informed consent? Is this real?

keep in mind that coffee beans has an ego the size of texas. she constantly thinks shes better than everyone for being a big smart rich and powerful doctor
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rikasa posted...

Under your interpretation, which pregnant women can't be drug tested without consent?

there is only one interpretation. they can drug test her for the benefit of the potential child and to make sure there won't be any complications...if they take those results to the police they'll have broken the law. you REALLY don't think its important for a doctor to know what type of potentially harmful substances their patients have ingested? what substances the fetus/baby may have been exposed to? the ONLY reason for it, in your eyes, is to get them arrested? Come on, dude.
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Well I'd honestly like her input on the subject without being defensive. I already said it was understandable to misread the topic title because of the extensive typos.
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VipaGTS posted...

you REALLY don't think its important for a doctor to know what type of potentially harmful substances their patients have ingested?

I mean, a doctor could probably find out a lot about someone's health by checking their search history too. And they don't do that. I absolutely don't think it's OK for a doctor to steal that information from you WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT. TC should make sure he didn't sign something ahead of time that gave them consent.
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rikasa posted...

Well I'd honestly like her input on the subject without being defensive. I already said it was understandable to misread the topic title because of the extensive typos.

impossible. if you ever call out her great massive intelligence as a doctor she just resorts to baseless insults and quips.
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rikasa posted...

Is a doctor literally telling me that pregnant women have no right to informed consent? Is this real?

This topic is making me think you're not capable of informed consent.
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I was right in the David Hogg topic too. I can explain it further if you want but no one was listening there and they won't listen here either.
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rikasa posted...

Is a doctor literally telling me that pregnant women have no right to informed consent? Is this real?

I really don't want to have to explain something so obvious, but I guess you leave me no choice.

If the labs you're ordering for an individual are directly related to medical decision making, and the individual has the right to refuse them, you don't have to literally explain every lab you order, unless you love hearing about lipase, HgbA1C and whatnot.

I know people lose their shit over the right to (not) be drug tested, but a UDS isn't meant to send you to jail, it's to guide proper medical decision making, the consent of which is implied by the fact that you willingly stuck out your arm to give blood.

The doctor isn't going to call the cops jfc.
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rikasa posted...

What was her purpose then? Curiosity? I think that line is unclear. It might be saying that's the purpose of the warrant.

Its for the health of the fetus mate
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You consent to every blood test possible every time you hand over blood? I really don't think that's right. Financially for one thing, it doesn't make sense. I definitely believe that you and other docs gloss over the consent process though because no one cares enough.
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yeah but tbh coffee beans you seem EXACTLY like the type who burns up in the inside because you cant call the cops on all the drug user so. it probably hurts you, yet you still silently judge them.
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rikasa posted...

You consent to every blood test possible every time you hand over blood? I really don't think that's right. Financially for one thing, it doesn't make sense. I definitely believe that you and other docs gloss over the consent process though because no one cares enough.

Is this some kind of joke or performance art
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Yeah, I know, reacting with bewildered bafflement when your sacred cows are challenged is standard procedure here. I know.
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its amazing how hard people will continue to fight just to not have to admit they were wrong. its not a big deal dude...you don't have to go through a 400 post song and dance.
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VipaGTS posted...

its amazing how hard people will continue to fight just to not have to admit they were wrong. its not a big deal dude...you don't have to go through a 400 post song and dance.

As my boy Mark Twain once said, it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt
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This is America, where principle trumps common sense and the personal well-being of a human child isn't as important as your right to be a sneaky crackhead.

But yeah, lets get people suing over this kind of shit. That'll REALLLLLY help our current healthcare situation.
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VipaGTS posted...

its amazing how hard people will continue to fight just to not have to admit they were wrong. its not a big deal dude...you don't have to go through a 400 post song and dance.

yeah i just wish coffee beans would learn some humility and how to be humble then she can stick around all she wants. but she refuses to do either
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TLDR: it's basic standards of care. Evidence supports it. Most places do it as a part of your basic prenatal lab panel.
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Everyone thinks pregnant women don't have rights. That's why they all just universally tell them not to have alcohol and shame them if they do. Despite the actual evidence saying about a glass of wine per day does nothing to the baby. But why give pregnant women choices like that? They can go back to making their own decisions when they aren't pregnant.
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edededdy posted...

VipaGTS posted...

its amazing how hard people will continue to fight just to not have to admit they were wrong. its not a big deal dude...you don't have to go through a 400 post song and dance.

yeah i just wish coffee beans would learn some humility and how to be humble then she can stick around all she wants. but she refuses to do either

I mean shes right in this case
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DarkRoast posted...

I agree with all this. You're saying they are doing it without consent. I'm saying they're not or shouldn't.
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