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ChainedRedone posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

personal opinion. if history is just a passion that's not gonna be a career, a degree is pointless.
it's much more fun to get that fix in your personal time on your own

You mean a hobby. Reading something in your spare time isn't exactly a passion.

Do you have to do it for work for it to count as a passion?
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ChainedRedone posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

personal opinion. if history is just a passion that's not gonna be a career, a degree is pointless.
it's much more fun to get that fix in your personal time on your own

You mean a hobby. Reading something in your spare time isn't exactly a passion.

Well thats all a history major does, dont they? Read books written by other people and copying them
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Why does anybody do anything? We're just bugs on a rock in a void.
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Yea my dad has a degree in agricultural science but the job he's done my whole life pretty much is in no way related to anything agricultural, they just require a degree
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andromedadude3 posted...

Why does anybody do anything? We're just bugs on a rock in a void.

Really makes you think
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PleaseClap posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

personal opinion. if history is just a passion that's not gonna be a career, a degree is pointless.
it's much more fun to get that fix in your personal time on your own

You mean a hobby. Reading something in your spare time isn't exactly a passion.

Well thats all a history major does, dont they? Read books written by other people and copying them

There are always new things being discovered through research.
Expanding understandings of the past.
Creating new things within our culture. Music, television, novels, non-fiction, documentaries, films, etc...
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PleaseClap posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

personal opinion. if history is just a passion that's not gonna be a career, a degree is pointless.
it's much more fun to get that fix in your personal time on your own

You mean a hobby. Reading something in your spare time isn't exactly a passion.

Well thats all a history major does, dont they? Read books written by other people and copying them

Yes.
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Kastrada posted...

PleaseClap posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

personal opinion. if history is just a passion that's not gonna be a career, a degree is pointless.
it's much more fun to get that fix in your personal time on your own

You mean a hobby. Reading something in your spare time isn't exactly a passion.

Well thats all a history major does, dont they? Read books written by other people and copying them

There are always new things being discovered through research.
Expanding understandings of the past.
Creating new things within our culture. Music, television, novels, non-fiction, documentaries, films, etc...

You dont need a history degree to write a book
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or to write a tv show script for that matter. Or to conduct music?
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not every degree must be for profit-oriented (like medicine,engineering)
some people just prefer seeking for knowledge.

CoolBro posted...

not every degree must be for profit-oriented (like medicine,engineering)
some people just prefer seeking for knowledge.

and that's a worthwhile goal? Just learning for the sake of it?
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Complete_Idi0t posted...

So they can be ignored when they point out someone is making the same mistake that someone in history did

Damn I love this gimmick
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PleaseClap posted...

Kastrada posted...

PleaseClap posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

personal opinion. if history is just a passion that's not gonna be a career, a degree is pointless.
it's much more fun to get that fix in your personal time on your own

You mean a hobby. Reading something in your spare time isn't exactly a passion.

Well thats all a history major does, dont they? Read books written by other people and copying them

There are always new things being discovered through research.
Expanding understandings of the past.
Creating new things within our culture. Music, television, novels, non-fiction, documentaries, films, etc...

You dont need a history degree to write a book

You do, actually.
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powerman1426 posted...

Complete_Idi0t posted...

So they can be ignored when they point out someone is making the same mistake that someone in history did

Damn I love this gimmick

It's real good
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ChainedRedone posted...

PleaseClap posted...

Kastrada posted...

PleaseClap posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

personal opinion. if history is just a passion that's not gonna be a career, a degree is pointless.
it's much more fun to get that fix in your personal time on your own

You mean a hobby. Reading something in your spare time isn't exactly a passion.

Well thats all a history major does, dont they? Read books written by other people and copying them

There are always new things being discovered through research.
Expanding understandings of the past.
Creating new things within our culture. Music, television, novels, non-fiction, documentaries, films, etc...

You dont need a history degree to write a book

You do, actually.

Damn, every author in history has a history degree? I never knew
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to become couriers
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PleaseClap posted...

CoolBro posted...

not every degree must be for profit-oriented (like medicine,engineering)
some people just prefer seeking for knowledge.

and that's a worthwhile goal? Just learning for the sake of it?

well history needs to be preserved to capture human's culture. History degree students help them I guess in reserving the knowledge and sometimes discovering unknown history.

PleaseClap posted...

powerman1426 posted...

Complete_Idi0t posted...

So they can be ignored when they point out someone is making the same mistake that someone in history did

Damn I love this gimmick

It's real good

It also answers your question
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CoolBro posted...

PleaseClap posted...

CoolBro posted...

not every degree must be for profit-oriented (like medicine,engineering)
some people just prefer seeking for knowledge.

and that's a worthwhile goal? Just learning for the sake of it?

well history needs to be preserved to capture human's culture. History degree students help them I guess in reserving the knowledge and sometimes discovering unknown history.

But as I said, all of those history books are already written
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PleaseClap posted...

CoolBro posted...

PleaseClap posted...

CoolBro posted...

not every degree must be for profit-oriented (like medicine,engineering)
some people just prefer seeking for knowledge.

and that's a worthwhile goal? Just learning for the sake of it?

well history needs to be preserved to capture human's culture. History degree students help them I guess in reserving the knowledge and sometimes discovering unknown history.

But as I said, all of those history books are already written

yeah but sometimes they might discover new information about that history thry were researching

Bump
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The days of paying for college to follow your passion are done. You can get every single ounce of information you'd learn from college online or in a book when it comes to a subject like History. Don't encourage that shit, you're just freely advertising a highly exploitative industry. Go to college to learn how to do an in-demand job.
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rikasa posted...

The days of paying for college to follow your passion are done. You can get every single ounce of information you'd learn from college online or in a book when it comes to a subject like History. Don't encourage that shit, you're just freely advertising a highly exploitative industry. Go to college to learn how to do an in-demand job.

This is true except for universities that employ the top guys in their expertise in which case you also get a signed copy of their book (your text books)
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And, I pursued a history degree because I had no idea what to study and the information and research methods are applicable to every other field (since they all have a history of their own).

If you consider the other liberal arts, history is probably the most useful and versatile. An English degree isnt bad since you are use English language a lot but the research methods instilled through the study of historiography apply to any field where you have to research and report. Not to mention that critical thinking and collecting information is pretty much the most important skills required to be a good historian.
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rikasa posted...

The days of paying for college to follow your passion are done. You can get every single ounce of information you'd learn from college online or in a book when it comes to a subject like History. Don't encourage that shit, you're just freely advertising a highly exploitative industry. Go to college to learn how to do an in-demand job.

That never has been the purpose of academia, and the push to make it so is extremely detrimental to the culture of academia.
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COVxy posted...

rikasa posted...

The days of paying for college to follow your passion are done. You can get every single ounce of information you'd learn from college online or in a book when it comes to a subject like History. Don't encourage that shit, you're just freely advertising a highly exploitative industry. Go to college to learn how to do an in-demand job.

That never has been the purpose of academia, and the push to make it so is extremely detrimental to the culture of academia.

So academia isn't meant to be useful?
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"Useful" is not limited to relating to an in demand job.
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I use to have a coworker that got a history degree and worked in the retail stockroom for over a decade. He's still there.

Lol every passing year and that degree gets more and more obsolete cus history is a constant thing.

Might as well get a degree in Present or Future while you're at it.
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PleaseClap posted...

COVxy posted...

rikasa posted...

The days of paying for college to follow your passion are done. You can get every single ounce of information you'd learn from college online or in a book when it comes to a subject like History. Don't encourage that shit, you're just freely advertising a highly exploitative industry. Go to college to learn how to do an in-demand job.

That never has been the purpose of academia, and the push to make it so is extremely detrimental to the culture of academia.

So academia isn't meant to be useful?

monetary value in a capitalist system does not equate to usefulness
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Space_Man posted...

Lol every passing year and that degree gets more and more obsolete cus history is a constant thing.

Might as well get a degree in Present or Future while you're at it.

you really don't understand how things work, do you
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averagejoel posted...

Space_Man posted...

Lol every passing year and that degree gets more and more obsolete cus history is a constant thing.

Might as well get a degree in Present or Future while you're at it.

you really don't understand how things work, do you

I understand that history is in the past and the future doesn't exist (depending on your views regarding time)

What's the point of studying history when history channel and BuzzFeed can tell me what I have to know.
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Space_Man posted...

averagejoel posted...

Space_Man posted...

Lol every passing year and that degree gets more and more obsolete cus history is a constant thing.

Might as well get a degree in Present or Future while you're at it.

you really don't understand how things work, do you

I understand that history is in the past and the future doesn't exist (depending on your views regarding time)

What's the point of studying history when history channel and BuzzFeed can tell me what I have to know.

learning facts is not the only aspect of learning history. there's an analysis/critical thinking aspect, which the history channel and buzzfeed will not help you with

time spent learning from someone who has a phd in a subject will make you better in that subject
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21WIVES_CHILL posted...

I use to have a coworker that got a history degree and worked in the retail stockroom for over a decade. He's still there.

at least he has his passion, I guess
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averagejoel posted...

Space_Man posted...

averagejoel posted...

Space_Man posted...

Lol every passing year and that degree gets more and more obsolete cus history is a constant thing.

Might as well get a degree in Present or Future while you're at it.

you really don't understand how things work, do you

I understand that history is in the past and the future doesn't exist (depending on your views regarding time)

What's the point of studying history when history channel and BuzzFeed can tell me what I have to know.

learning facts is not the only aspect of learning history. there's an analysis/critical thinking aspect, which the history channel and buzzfeed will not help you with

time spent learning from someone who has a phd in a subject will make you better in that subject

Yeah but the people on BuzzFeed told me to listen to them and that someone with a PhD will whitewash the history so I'd rather take their word for it when it comes to history and Huffington Post for problems of the current year
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something else that I neglected to mention: learning how to do your own research is extremely valuable, and while a university is not the only place where you can do that, it does force you to do that, so it's a pretty major step up in that regard
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averagejoel posted...

something else that I neglected to mention: learning how to do your own research is extremely valuable, and while a university is not the only place where you can do that, it does force you to do that, so it's a pretty major step up in that regard

Why would I do my research when mtv news does all the searching for me. Did you know it's transphobic to not be attracted to trans individuals? It's racist to not like Latinx ppl too.

I'm becoming cultured and don't have to do any work. What about you, Mr "Research and find my own path in life"???
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rikasa posted...

Go to college to learn how to do an in-demand job.

What's considered "in demand" varies every year though, it's far too common for someone end up with a degree that's rendered useless due to changes in the job market, and unless you're actually good at what's being demanded, you have to settle for whatever else you can get instead (or just outright abandon getting a degree at all).

I know in my case that schooling is going to end up fruitless, because I'm neither good at any of the subjects available to me and I won't commit to anything that won't be viable by the time I graduate. At this point I'd be better of quitting and going back to trying to find a minimum wage job (not that I'll ever get one because nobody will hire me anyway).
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

rikasa posted...

Go to college to learn how to do an in-demand job.

What's considered "in demand" varies every year though, it's far too common for someone end up with a degree that's rendered useless due to changes in the job market, and unless you're actually good at what's being demanded, you have to settle for whatever else you can get instead (or just outright abandon getting a degree at all).

I know in my case that schooling is going to end up fruitless, because I'm neither good at any of the subjects available to me and I won't commit to anything that won't be viable by the time I graduate. At this point I'd be better of quitting and going back to trying to find a minimum wage job (not that I'll ever get one because nobody will hire me anyway).

a degree is not useless just because it won't yield a high-paying job right off the bat. That has never been what degrees are for, and it's really weird that people are expecting it to be that now
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averagejoel posted...

something else that I neglected to mention: learning how to do your own research is extremely valuable, and while a university is not the only place where you can do that, it does force you to do that, so it's a pretty major step up in that regard

and that skill is worth $40k?
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PleaseClap posted...

averagejoel posted...

something else that I neglected to mention: learning how to do your own research is extremely valuable, and while a university is not the only place where you can do that, it does force you to do that, so it's a pretty major step up in that regard

and that skill is worth $40k?

it is for some people

but university doesn't have to be $40k, and there's no good reason why it should be
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averagejoel posted...

PleaseClap posted...

averagejoel posted...

something else that I neglected to mention: learning how to do your own research is extremely valuable, and while a university is not the only place where you can do that, it does force you to do that, so it's a pretty major step up in that regard

and that skill is worth $40k?

it is for some people

but university doesn't have to be $40k, and there's no good reason why it should be

But it is. That's what people are currently paying. We aren't talking about hypotheticals here
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ThePieReborn posted...

"Useful" is not limited to relating to an in demand job.

it is if you want to eat and be successful
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Because the world need baristas
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Returning_CEmen posted...

Because the world need baristas

A lot of people make that joke
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

At this point I'd be better of quitting and going back to trying to find a minimum wage job (not that I'll ever get one because nobody will hire me anyway).

Why not a 2-year technical degree? Community coolege is free in some states and cheap in others.
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TC is winning this topic.

All these people who think you can waste money on history degrees because you enjoy doing redundant bookwork makes me lol.

History degrees are pitiful to gun for, and show the owners navet or privileged life to waste time and money.

College isnt about passion. Its about upgrading your pay. Thats the sad truth of it right now. At least in the US.

I dont give a rats ass about the social and economical effects of some war in the 1800s. I can just Google it if I need to. At least then they wont be scamming me with overpriced books that revise history anyway.
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Whats hilarious is how out of touch most posters in this topic are. If you arent going for STEM careers, a white collar career requirement is a piece of paper. If you go to an office almost every person working there has a degree in something completely unrelated to what they are doing. But they only got offered the job because of their piece of paper (saying they have crippling student debt so theyll be a good little wage slave) and their connections
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