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Sheep007
12/27/18 7:40:35 PM
#401:


Yanno what, screw it. I don't particularly want to lynch John anyway and I'm probably dead since Red at the very least is also planning to vote me. Y'all probably just have one more mislynch and you really, really need to not waste it. The PoE for most people is nowhere near small enough for this to be an easy win and we've done a really bad job of clearing people especially given the roles we've got. I'm gonna say sod it and ##Unvote ##Vote: Chris

I feel like the fact he went on about how the Ed lynch probably had most scum on it, and it then proceeded to have either 2 or 3 scum on, is just generally poor. The fact that he has voted me every day and done little else to speak of is just very unlike what I'm used to from him and I struggle to see any town actions from Chris himself. Terra did more pro-town things with the slot in just a single day, and he's prone to bussing. Chris has repeatedly attempted to mislynch me and just kept on at it without really taking a serious look at the rest of the game. I know it's a busy time of the year, and his activity and generally being wrong doesn't necessarily make him scum, but quite frankly I think just about everyone else in the game looks more like town now. Another who's had the problem with tunneling me is HB. He's done nary a thing since D1 and has been coasting with "just lynch sheep lol" for wayyy too long. I'm not thinking he's scum, but he really, really has to step it up because like Chris' slot not a thing he's done since D1 had made me particularly think he's Town. I just don't want to think that my strong townread from D1 was wrong.
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Sheep007
12/27/18 7:42:55 PM
#402:


Neablis posted...
I mean I'm not fundamentally against a sheep lynch, I think jb is a better lynch however as we are pretty sure that one of jb and mzero are scum

This is an awful trap to fall into. It's rarely that simple and it's so easy to mislynch twice using it. I've fallen back into it several times after thinking "no I won't think that again".
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ScareChan
12/27/18 7:43:44 PM
#403:


that john vote wasnt formatted right
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Neablis
12/27/18 7:48:25 PM
#404:


Sheep007 posted...
Neablis posted...
I mean I'm not fundamentally against a sheep lynch, I think jb is a better lynch however as we are pretty sure that one of jb and mzero are scum

This is an awful trap to fall into. It's rarely that simple and it's so easy to mislynch twice using it. I've fallen back into it several times after thinking "no I won't think that again".


Let me put it this way, the way mzero is reading the game makes me think that he is most likely to be town.

JB is just putting posts together and not interacting and seems to be skipping posts. He is not invested in the game and his belting history is roughly like yours but I think slightly worse, and his reactions to the game just about seal it for me.

Really I know you want to be a martyr and I'll admit you probably will be lynched but I really think JB is the best lynch today even outside one of mzero/jb.
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red13n
12/27/18 7:48:56 PM
#405:


Sheep007 posted...
. Y'all probably just have one more mislynch and you really, really need to not waste it.


are we playing the same game?

That chris vote kind of came out of left field on us too.

What are you up to, sheep.
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red13n
12/27/18 7:51:57 PM
#406:


Also I've already faked one scan this game, why the confidence that I(Well, we) didnt scan you?
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Neablis
12/27/18 7:55:38 PM
#407:


If you have a red check on sheep I would like to hear it tbh.

I am not super convinced sheep is scum...like I think there is a possibility. D2 makes more sense to me as sheep being the sc um m counterwagon than we have three scum up for lynch that day.

I think he does have problems such as a lack of enthusiasm and being wrong place wrong time.

But there are several moments I think I just do not know.

I am more sure of jb I think.
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Sheep007
12/27/18 7:55:46 PM
#408:


red13n posted...
Sheep007 posted...
. Y'all probably just have one more mislynch and you really, really need to not waste it.


are we playing the same game?

That chris vote kind of came out of left field on us too.

What are you up to, sheep.

I'm just vocalising my thoughts since I highly expect to die.

Also assuming 3 scum left, mislynching me takes it to 3/10, one mislynch to 3/8 and then you can't miss. That's really not an awful lot of leeway assuming there's one fairly deep down scum and they can kill you/Neab/Death.

red13n posted...
Also I've already faked one scan this game, why the confidence that I(Well, we) didnt scan you?

If you had scanned me why let me get so close to being hammered without saying so?
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Sheep007
12/27/18 7:57:37 PM
#409:


I have plenty of enthusiasm right now and did most of D1/D2. Wrong place wrong time... I'll give ya that.
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Neablis
12/27/18 8:00:24 PM
#410:


Sheep007 posted...
I have plenty of enthusiasm right now and did most of D1/D2. Wrong place wrong time... I'll give ya that.


I think your level of enthusiasm was different this game than the past few games. You feel more subdued and we didnt line up to to much this game as we went through.

Tbh the reg shot made you look bad because of the semi hard defense. I mean everyone sides with scum at some poi t though
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DoomTheGyarados
12/27/18 8:18:22 PM
#411:


Sheep007 posted...
Yanno what, screw it. I don't particularly want to lynch John anyway and I'm probably dead since Red at the very least is also planning to vote me. Y'all probably just have one more mislynch and you really, really need to not waste it. The PoE for most people is nowhere near small enough for this to be an easy win and we've done a really bad job of clearing people especially given the roles we've got. I'm gonna say sod it and ##Unvote ##Vote: Chris

I feel like the fact he went on about how the Ed lynch probably had most scum on it, and it then proceeded to have either 2 or 3 scum on, is just generally poor. The fact that he has voted me every day and done little else to speak of is just very unlike what I'm used to from him and I struggle to see any town actions from Chris himself. Terra did more pro-town things with the slot in just a single day, and he's prone to bussing. Chris has repeatedly attempted to mislynch me and just kept on at it without really taking a serious look at the rest of the game. I know it's a busy time of the year, and his activity and generally being wrong doesn't necessarily make him scum, but quite frankly I think just about everyone else in the game looks more like town now. Another who's had the problem with tunneling me is HB. He's done nary a thing since D1 and has been coasting with "just lynch sheep lol" for wayyy too long. I'm not thinking he's scum, but he really, really has to step it up because like Chris' slot not a thing he's done since D1 had made me particularly think he's Town. I just don't want to think that my strong townread from D1 was wrong.


lol

Basically when you have a town vs scum lynch day 1 it is extremely advantageous to start there and note the results otherwise. My POE so far has been on point so there's really no need to do any further work. People I have said are town were town, and 2 names from my poe have flipped scum. with 2-3 scum remaining in the game. There's no real reason to do work when thus far your work, not much needed mind you, has been good to go. I am not going to stress out over different possibilities.

Solve ed's lynch first, then solve the rest of the game. Plum did us a favor of being the literal worst day 2 with his dyl interaction to clear up doubt so we had a side tour, but still.
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benjamin3740
12/27/18 8:35:15 PM
#412:


So can we just hammer sheep then?
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Sheep007
12/27/18 8:43:15 PM
#413:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Basically when you have a town vs scum lynch day 1 it is extremely advantageous to start there and note the results otherwise. My POE so far has been on point so there's really no need to do any further work. People I have said are town were town, and 2 names from my poe have flipped scum. with 2-3 scum remaining in the game. There's no real reason to do work when thus far your work, not much needed mind you, has been good to go. I am not going to stress out over different possibilities.

Thing is, of those left on the Ed lynch I'm town and I think there's a not insignificant chance that God is also. Based on what I've seen so far, I do not trust whatsoever that we have a potential town leader for the next few days, and the idea that everything will work itself out is not looking particularly likely at least to me. If you're scum and God isn't, I think that's game since I don't trust anyone left alive to kill you in potential MYLO and I want everyone to be aware of the fact you should at least be in the PoE.
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Sheep007
12/27/18 8:43:43 PM
#414:


I'd like another 24 hours if that's quite okay, Ben.
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ScareChan
12/27/18 9:03:42 PM
#415:


what are votes even at
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benjamin3740
12/27/18 9:05:07 PM
#416:


I already said if Sheep is town Chris is scum, so
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Hbthebattle
12/27/18 9:05:40 PM
#417:


Im not letting Sheep slip away another day. His earlier post reeks of scum frustration and finally breaking under pressure.
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Neablis
12/27/18 9:05:58 PM
#418:


Chris, me saying I disagree with the POE would be quite...wrong of me. I love poe.

I think in this case however we have to look at how d2 played out, it is giving me the biggest pause.

Plum had already bussed his teammate d1 so that's not exactly a Greta point I am about to make. But the way the lynch played out with plum going hard like he did on sheep. Especially trying the voted up before we got a dyl wagon really going.

It really feels like to me sheep was the counterwagon on the day for scum.

I truly believe johnbob is the better lynch, I understand wanting to clear up the ed wagon tbh, but its past a point where that is only what we should do.

I just do not think this is the optimal path
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red13n
12/27/18 9:08:53 PM
#419:


Neab, one thing I would consider, and admittedly, I'm not sure how it affects your thinking(And I'm not trying to affect it, just give you notice). If scum didnt have anyone that cared, it is very possible plum was allowed to play blind for day 1.
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Sheep007
12/27/18 9:12:02 PM
#420:


Plum didn't play D1 blind when I was scum with him and I don't think he did in GoT mafia either. That shouldn't really come into account.

Hbthebattle posted...
Im not letting Sheep slip away another day. His earlier post reeks of scum frustration and finally breaking under pressure.

Slip away... We literally lynched scum instead of me D2 and Plum was always the lynch D3. And what about my frustration is scum frustration? It's plenty easy to get frustrated as town.
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Neablis
12/27/18 9:12:48 PM
#421:


red13n posted...
Neab, one thing I would consider, and admittedly, I'm not sure how it affects your thinking(And I'm not trying to affect it, just give you notice). If scum didnt have anyone that cared, it is very possible plum was allowed to play blind for day 1.


You know this is why I am struggling with sheep. If scum had just given up by the time the dyl lynch happened for instance totally demoralized could be that they didnt care if any town got pushed.

I think though, and my understanding could be warped. I feel like if sheep was/is scum he would be someone who cared to try to get a lynch off of a scum partner into a townie or at leas th head that way. D1 he did help il n this but do did other confirmed town, d2 he goes from a stronger role in dyl to a weaker in plum.

Sadly that is a negative for someone already on thin ice. We have a red check d3.

Past d2 though sheep has always been the counter wagon.

Its interesting but frustrating if true.
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benjamin3740
12/27/18 9:13:11 PM
#422:


It's Plum's day 2 that says anything about Sheep regardless though.
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red13n
12/27/18 9:14:12 PM
#423:


Sheep007 posted...
Plum didn't play D1 blind when I was scum with him and I don't think he did in GoT mafia either. That shouldn't really come into account.


He was trying to play blind in GoT mafia. We forced him onto the board sometime into the first day.
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Sheep007
12/27/18 9:18:17 PM
#424:


It's the middle of the night and I should probably sleep. There's more stuff I want to say but I'm too tired and don't think I can get it across effectively right now.
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Sheep007
12/27/18 9:19:33 PM
#425:


Also I really wish I'd had more scum games on here because if anyone was familiar with my scum game they'd know this is basically the antithesis of it
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Arti
12/27/18 9:20:41 PM
#426:


Votals, as of #424
Sheep [4] - Chris, Hb, Death, Ben
Chris [1] - Sheep
Johnbobb [1] - MZero, (ben), (Sheep)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Day ends at 10:00 PM on Friday, December 28th, approximately twenty-four and a half hours from now.
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Neablis
12/27/18 9:22:03 PM
#427:


##vote: Johnbobb

Just for proper things
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MZero11
12/27/18 9:54:48 PM
#428:


Really don't like the Sheep lynch. Reminds me of GoT mafia
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ScareChan
12/27/18 10:05:54 PM
#429:


MZero11 posted...
Really don't like the Sheep lynch. Reminds me of GoT mafia


what about it
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red13n
12/27/18 10:09:05 PM
#430:


MZero11 posted...
Really don't like the Sheep lynch. Reminds me of GoT mafia


I'm not getting this reference either.

GoT mafia was a stomp if plum didnt attempt to suicide our team.
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red13n
12/27/18 10:13:06 PM
#431:


Also I have more business to discuss dont end the day.
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red13n
12/27/18 10:15:23 PM
#432:


i have some flavor meta spinning in my head right now.
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MZero11
12/27/18 10:17:09 PM
#433:


The fact that Sheep was town, everyone was convinced he was scum, and I defended him for like 3 days and he got mislynched anyway

I think it was GoT anyway
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red13n
12/27/18 10:19:20 PM
#434:


Scare, I want to know the order you want to lynch people.
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red13n
12/27/18 10:25:43 PM
#435:


Sheep I want the same from you.
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red13n
12/27/18 10:26:06 PM
#436:


Actually, Mzero and johnbobb as well.
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ScareChan
12/27/18 10:29:52 PM
#437:


give me some time on it

right now off top of my head would say igcd last
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ScareChan
12/27/18 10:30:14 PM
#438:


Whats the theives list again so I can double check
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DoomTheGyarados
12/27/18 10:31:27 PM
#439:


Tbh as soon as my poe is broken is the time to care about the game. But I see no reason to assume there arent 2 scum in God, john, mzero, and sheep. I liked sheep topic 1 but I am just following red because it is the easiest thing to do.

Red
HB
Scare
Ben
Ashe
Neab

Are all solidly town. Death literally town. When your town list is that solid not much reason to stress.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/27/18 10:33:44 PM
#440:


ScareChan posted...
give me some time on it

right now off top of my head would say igcd last

So... You. Me. Final 3?
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red13n
12/27/18 10:34:18 PM
#441:


Hey Scare...was your vote perhaps...a forgery?

I realized I tipped my hand a little.
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red13n
12/27/18 10:36:06 PM
#442:


Also sorry to immediately throw a wrench into your PoE but...

We can safely assume one of the scum is Madarame.
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DoomTheGyarados
12/27/18 10:37:34 PM
#443:


red13n posted...
Also sorry to immediately throw a wrench into your PoE but...

We can safely assume one of the scum is Madarame.


Hm, no problem at all. Explain a bit more? Also I concur with that as my flavor is his student.
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DoomTheGyarados
12/27/18 10:37:54 PM
#444:


(Not the phantom thief obv)
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red13n
12/27/18 10:38:31 PM
#445:


Sheep very well might still be scum.

But Scare has ridden that confirm hard. Hes playing off old meta from our old team.

He tried damn hard to protect DYL if I recall.

Hes bothered the fuck out of me all game.

And then I just happened to go over the Palace list.
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red13n
12/27/18 10:39:31 PM
#446:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
red13n posted...
Also sorry to immediately throw a wrench into your PoE but...

We can safely assume one of the scum is Madarame.


Hm, no problem at all. Explain a bit more? Also I concur with that as my flavor is his student.


The end of day 1. Scare put in an unvote that never happened. Then the stop came.

What I am saying, is that his role is something that makes his vote a fake.
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DoomTheGyarados
12/27/18 10:40:17 PM
#447:


red13n posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
red13n posted...
Also sorry to immediately throw a wrench into your PoE but...

We can safely assume one of the scum is Madarame.


Hm, no problem at all. Explain a bit more? Also I concur with that as my flavor is his student.


The end of day 1. Scare put in an unvote that never happened. Then the stop came.

What I am saying, is that his role is something that makes his vote a fake.


Hmmm. One moment.
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red13n
12/27/18 10:40:59 PM
#448:


Also have you played P5?

Because I'm not sure if you have, but Madarame creates art forgeries.
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DoomTheGyarados
12/27/18 10:44:25 PM
#449:


Yes. I loved it. Last game I beat before I had to sell my ps4.

Arti waits 13 seconds after scare unvoted to stop...

I am liking where your head is at.

##unvote:sheep

That is weird.
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ScareChan
12/27/18 10:46:21 PM
#450:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
give me some time on it

right now off top of my head would say igcd last

So... You. Me. Final 3?


deopends who the other is

and is Chris dead because his post was edited
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