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DarkRoast 12/23/18 11:48:57 AM #51:	COVxy posted... DarkRoast posted... It's not clear if they're referring to in utero use or post-birth exposure. That doesn't really matter, if they observed effects of gene methylation in children it would indeed be potentially an important finding, either way. Unfortunately for both of us it seems to be point mutation rate. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:914594096] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's not clear if they're referring to in utero use or post-birth exposure. </quote> That doesn't really matter, if they observed effects of gene methylation in children it would indeed be potentially an important finding, either way.</quote> Unfortunately for both of us it seems to be point mutation rate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 12/23/18 11:49:23 AM #52:	fetus don't actually have dna, that would imply they have a soul and i do not believe in jesus. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:914594110] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote>fetus don't actually have dna, that would imply they have a soul and i do not believe in jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/23/18 11:50:07 AM #53:	DarkRoast posted... COVxy posted... DarkRoast posted... It's not clear if they're referring to in utero use or post-birth exposure. That doesn't really matter, if they observed effects of gene methylation in children it would indeed be potentially an important finding, either way. Unfortunately for both of us it seems to be point mutation rate. This is true, but like I said, no matter what the article actually says, it was a silly thing for you to post. My guess is that you just misread the OP, but you double downed on it. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914594134] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's not clear if they're referring to in utero use or post-birth exposure. </quote> That doesn't really matter, if they observed effects of gene methylation in children it would indeed be potentially an important finding, either way.</quote> Unfortunately for both of us it seems to be point mutation rate.</quote> This is true, but like I said, no matter what the article actually says, it was a silly thing for you to post. My guess is that you just misread the OP, but you double downed on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/23/18 11:51:48 AM #54:	To be fair, were talking about a source interpreted by DailyMail UK --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:914594182] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, were talking about a source interpreted by DailyMail UK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banana_Cyanide 12/23/18 11:53:20 AM #55:	I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric. --- Who knew bananas could be so lethal? Proud member of The Church of The Man-Emperor of Mankind. <cite>Banana_Cyanide posted [p:914594236] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote>I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 12/23/18 11:55:35 AM #56:	Banana_Cyanide posted... I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric. Best to leave them to their specialization and us to ours --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:914594325] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Cyanide posted...</cite> <quote>I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric.</quote> Best to leave them to their specialization and us to ours</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveTheUseless 12/23/18 11:56:37 AM #57:	Uhm, I'm pretty sure evolution is just a theory. --- www.youtube.com/davetheuseless Creepypasta Channel. twitter.com/davetheuseless DaveTheUseless Loves You. <cite>DaveTheUseless posted [p:914594367] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote>Uhm, I'm pretty sure evolution is just a theory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 12/23/18 11:57:15 AM #58:	MarqueeSeries posted... Banana_Cyanide posted... I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric. Best to leave them to their specialization and us to ours Don't worry, I sometimes waft my own farts as well. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:914594389] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>MarqueeSeries posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Cyanide posted...</cite> <quote>I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric.</quote> Best to leave them to their specialization and us to ours</quote> Don't worry, I sometimes waft my own farts as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/23/18 11:59:20 AM #59:	Kombucha posted... MarqueeSeries posted... Banana_Cyanide posted... I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric. Best to leave them to their specialization and us to ours Don't worry, I sometimes waft my own farts as well. You're not legit until you taste it --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:914594464] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MarqueeSeries posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Cyanide posted...</cite> <quote>I like how COVxy and DarkRoast are legitimately arguing over the study while everyone else is trolling with stereotypical religious rhetoric.</quote> Best to leave them to their specialization and us to ours</quote> Don't worry, I sometimes waft my own farts as well.</quote> You're not legit until you taste it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 12/23/18 12:26:04 PM #60:	Weed kills the weak sperm and allows only the strongest to survive That way if your money shot is front loaded heavily with knucklehead sperm, they cant get lucky by having a better spot in line. Time to start the high master race <cite>Romes187 posted [p:914595365] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote>Weed kills the weak sperm and allows only the strongest to survive That way if your money shot is front loaded heavily with knucklehead sperm, they cant get lucky by having a better spot in line. Time to start the high master race</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/24/18 1:51:36 AM #61:	COVxy posted... DarkRoast posted... If this is related to methylation and not mutation rate, the actual significance is debatable. This is pretty fucking stupid coming from an MD. I was writing up a response but couldn't even finish. It's actually a salient point. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914629955] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>If this is related to methylation and not mutation rate, the actual significance is debatable.</quote> This is pretty fucking stupid coming from an MD. I was writing up a response but couldn't even finish.</quote> It's actually a salient point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/24/18 7:14:26 AM #62:	Kineth posted... COVxy posted... DarkRoast posted... If this is related to methylation and not mutation rate, the actual significance is debatable. This is pretty fucking stupid coming from an MD. I was writing up a response but couldn't even finish. It's actually a salient point. You bumped a dead topic to comment on a post while ignoring all the subsequent discussion on said post? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914635811] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>If this is related to methylation and not mutation rate, the actual significance is debatable.</quote> This is pretty fucking stupid coming from an MD. I was writing up a response but couldn't even finish.</quote> It's actually a salient point.</quote> You bumped a dead topic to comment on a post while ignoring all the subsequent discussion on said post?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/24/18 7:36:26 AM #63:	COVxy posted... Kineth posted... COVxy posted... DarkRoast posted... If this is related to methylation and not mutation rate, the actual significance is debatable. This is pretty fucking stupid coming from an MD. I was writing up a response but couldn't even finish. It's actually a salient point. You bumped a dead topic to comment on a post while ignoring all the subsequent discussion on said post? It popped up in the "More topics from this board.." thing and molecular genetics is my jam. That said, I didn't really have much time to read the article in the first place, but my cursory glance of the topic made me lose interest in the other parts since there was a lot of drama over Coffeebeanz and not much discussion of the biochemistry. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914636183] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>If this is related to methylation and not mutation rate, the actual significance is debatable.</quote> This is pretty fucking stupid coming from an MD. I was writing up a response but couldn't even finish.</quote> It's actually a salient point.</quote> You bumped a dead topic to comment on a post while ignoring all the subsequent discussion on said post?</quote> It popped up in the "More topics from this board.." thing and molecular genetics is my jam. That said, I didn't really have much time to read the article in the first place, but my cursory glance of the topic made me lose interest in the other parts since there was a lot of drama over Coffeebeanz and not much discussion of the biochemistry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/24/18 7:39:56 AM #64:	Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914636261] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote>Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/24/18 7:42:48 AM #65:	COVxy posted... Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making. And I said the effects of inherited epigenetic changes on offspring are debatable, and provided a source. Not exactly sure why that caused drama. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:914636314] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making.</quote> And I said the effects of inherited epigenetic changes on offspring are debatable, and provided a source. Not exactly sure why that caused drama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/24/18 7:46:37 AM #66:	DarkRoast posted... COVxy posted... Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making. And I said the effects of inherited epigenetic changes on offspring are debatable, and provided a source. Not exactly sure why that caused drama. You either misread the OP and doubled down on it, or are just being silly. Based on the OP, this wouldn't haven't very much direct relation to inheritance of epigenetic effects. It certainly could, but that would be a stupid fucking reading of it because inheritance of epigenetic changes is rare at best, with no evidence in humans. The OP makes it clear that changes were observed in the children, not the parents. If it said "gene changes in parents potentially leading to harm in offspring" your comment would have been reasonable. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914636380] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making.</quote> And I said the effects of inherited epigenetic changes on offspring are debatable, and provided a source. Not exactly sure why that caused drama.</quote> You either misread the OP and doubled down on it, or are just being silly. Based on the OP, this wouldn't haven't very much direct relation to inheritance of epigenetic effects. It certainly could, but that would be a stupid fucking reading of it because inheritance of epigenetic changes is rare at best, with no evidence in humans. The OP makes it clear that changes were observed in the children, not the parents. If it said "gene changes in parents potentially leading to harm in offspring" your comment would have been reasonable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 12/24/18 7:48:50 AM #67:	There can only be one scully. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:914636429] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote>There can only be one scully.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/24/18 7:57:36 AM #68:	COVxy posted... Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making. Yeah, I understand that. Methylation and other such types of modifications are generally for changes in structure and gene access. Shutting off or turning on genes in this way is generally temporary. It's a salient point to say that methylation isn't as bad as genetic mutations and shifting bases, etc. etc. If your issue is that you thought it was being completely dismissive, I can understand that, but you've gotta understand that methylation of DNA happens regularly. That said, I'm a little rusty on my knowledge on the various types of modifications like this. I know that some are actually bad, but you only spent time haranguing her over that that I still haven't gotten the info on why methylation of DNA is so fucking devastating and if it's targeting specific genes. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914636541] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Changes in methylation are biologically important, full stop. It's silly to wave off changes in methylation. That's the point I was making.</quote> Yeah, I understand that. Methylation and other such types of modifications are generally for changes in structure and gene access. Shutting off or turning on genes in this way is generally temporary. It's a salient point to say that methylation isn't as bad as genetic mutations and shifting bases, etc. etc. If your issue is that you thought it was being completely dismissive, I can understand that, but you've gotta understand that methylation of DNA happens regularly. That said, I'm a little rusty on my knowledge on the various types of modifications like this. I know that some are actually bad, but you only spent time haranguing her over that that I still haven't gotten the info on why methylation of DNA is so fucking devastating and if it's targeting specific genes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/24/18 8:06:27 AM #69:	Kineth posted... It's a salient point to say that methylation isn't as bad as genetic mutations and shifting bases, etc. etc. If your issue is that you thought it was being completely dismissive, I can understand that, but you've gotta understand that methylation of DNA happens regularly. The point is that it happens regularly. Gene methylation mediates a lot of normal biological function, and therefore changes in it can lead to a lot of changes to normal functioning. I'm not over here arguing one is "worse" than the other (highly context dependent, as both can simply part of normal functioning). Just that waving off observed changes in methylation is silly. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914636683] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>It's a salient point to say that methylation isn't as bad as genetic mutations and shifting bases, etc. etc. If your issue is that you thought it was being completely dismissive, I can understand that, but you've gotta understand that methylation of DNA happens regularly.</quote> The point is that it happens regularly. Gene methylation mediates a lot of normal biological function, and therefore changes in it can lead to a lot of changes to normal functioning. I'm not over here arguing one is "worse" than the other (highly context dependent, as both can simply part of normal functioning). Just that waving off observed changes in methylation is silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/24/18 8:07:30 AM #70:	COVxy posted... Kineth posted... It's a salient point to say that methylation isn't as bad as genetic mutations and shifting bases, etc. etc. If your issue is that you thought it was being completely dismissive, I can understand that, but you've gotta understand that methylation of DNA happens regularly. The point is that it happens regularly. Gene methylation mediates a lot of normal biological function, and therefore changes in it can lead to a lot of changes to normal functioning. I'm not over here arguing one is "worse" than the other (highly context dependent, as both can simply part of normal functioning). Just that waving off observed changes in methylation is silly. Nobody waved it off jfc --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:914636697] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>It's a salient point to say that methylation isn't as bad as genetic mutations and shifting bases, etc. etc. If your issue is that you thought it was being completely dismissive, I can understand that, but you've gotta understand that methylation of DNA happens regularly.</quote> The point is that it happens regularly. Gene methylation mediates a lot of normal biological function, and therefore changes in it can lead to a lot of changes to normal functioning. I'm not over here arguing one is "worse" than the other (highly context dependent, as both can simply part of normal functioning). Just that waving off observed changes in methylation is silly.</quote> Nobody waved it off jfc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/24/18 8:11:24 AM #71:	DarkRoast posted... Nobody waved it off jfc Either you were arguing that it's unimportant because inheritance is debatable, or you didn't wave it off. One or the other, not both. Choose one. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914636772] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody waved it off jfc</quote> Either you were arguing that it's unimportant because inheritance is debatable, or you didn't wave it off. One or the other, not both. Choose one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/24/18 8:11:57 AM #72:	COVxy posted... DarkRoast posted... Nobody waved it off jfc Either you were arguing that it's unimportant because inheritance is debatable, or you didn't wave it off. One or the other, not both. Choose one. Do you even know what the word significance means? --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:914636785] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody waved it off jfc</quote> Either you were arguing that it's unimportant because inheritance is debatable, or you didn't wave it off. One or the other, not both. Choose one.</quote> Do you even know what the word significance means?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/24/18 8:24:33 AM #73:	DarkRoast posted... COVxy posted... DarkRoast posted... Nobody waved it off jfc Either you were arguing that it's unimportant because inheritance is debatable, or you didn't wave it off. One or the other, not both. Choose one. Do you even know what the word significance means? No technical definition in this sense, so in the normal, importance. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914637033] in people are... [t:77327614]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody waved it off jfc</quote> Either you were arguing that it's unimportant because inheritance is debatable, or you didn't wave it off. One or the other, not both. Choose one.</quote> Do you even know what the word significance means?</quote> No technical definition in this sense, so in the normal, importance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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