Current Events > What was people's problem with Bioshock Infinite??

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I think people thought it was too full of itself.
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The gameplay demo was AMAZING.

The end game wasnt even close to what the first demo promised

SchoolForAnts posted...

The gameplay demo was AMAZING.

The end game wasnt even close to what the first demo promised

This and it was pretty stupid.
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Look at how different the game was going to be:

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I remember that one gameplay video with the airship battle. That should have been the game.
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I actually had fun with it, but I only rented it and didn't get that far. I went to buy the Bioshock bundle on Steam one time, but I couldn't play the first one with my controller, so I get a refund
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living in the shadow of bioshock 1
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Remember how it only let you carry two guns at a time
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great game tbh awesome music
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The commercial was way cooler than the game.

I also think a lot of people had issues with the ending, and the DLC.
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CADE FOSTER posted...

great game tbh awesome music

This. It wasn't Bioshock 1 level good, but it was still a good gameplay experience. Ending was fine, although I can see why a lot of people didn't like it.
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I thought the game was great. Loved the gameplay and the story.

Did not like the DLC. I liked seeing Rapture before the fall, but they sacrificed a good story for fan service.

I was hyped about the early videos too. Thankfully I get over stuff fast. I enjoyed it for what it was and didn't hate it for what it wasn't. Amazing game
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Here's how I'd rank the Bioshock games:
Bioshock
Bioshock 2 DLC: Minerva's Den
Bioshock Infinite
Bioshock 2
Bioshock Infinite DLC: Burial at Sea

I thought that it was a great game.

it would have been my game of the year, but then Grand Theft Auto V and The Last of Us came out.
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The problem is Bioshock 1 set a very high bar.

Bioshock 2 kind of lived up that to that, but it was still a good game, but again Bioshock 1 was really high bar.

Infinite, completely removed from the first two bioshocks, was much more similar to a COD style shooter than Bioshock 1. Not a bad game by any means, but people wanted more of bioshock 1, not COD + Bioshock + a storyline that was basically "save damsel in distress because reasons"

kayoticdreamz posted...

Bioshock 2 kind of lived up that to that, but it was still a good game, but again Bioshock 1 was really high bar.

2 was better in terms of gameplay for the most part. More streamlined.

1 beat it in story, writing, and atmosphere.

I really liked Infinite. Will admit the DLC left much to be desired.
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Ugh, I hate when people put COD on everything by oversimplifying in their heads. Same with what people do to Dark Souls. Makes your opinion useless imo.

Edit: Doesn't help that he double downed by oversimplifying the story as well.
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Fun game. The only thing I knock it for is the last few hours.

The gameplay starts strong and decimates and rips out all of my major issues with the first game.

Then the last few hours says "screw it, we have to cram in more plot because we forgot to balance the two throughout" and then the game just suffers a bit too much. Loved the story though. It did maintain the Bio 1 quality, imo.
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Fun game. Now that I watch that demo trailer, though...yeah, I can understand why some felt mislead. It establishes the setting, powers, moving on those rail things, but some of the other stuff....lol.
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it was a bad game
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Delirious_Beard posted...

it was a bad game

It really was.
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Didn't have the atmosphere of the first game. Went too rooty tooty point n shooty for my tastes
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For me, the two gun mass shooting style of the game just got really tedious. That's not my type of game, but I'll argue that the gun upgrade system does not mesh with the two-gun gameplay. The Vigors aren't nearly as interesting as the plasmids, most of them being variations of grenades or stuns (though I will admit Undertow was a personal favorite). The rail thing didn't really do anything for me and the melee system was too cinematic to really be built around.

And the story is mindblowing at first glance, but gets sillier the more you think about it. It only got sillier with the DLC.
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I was cool with it

until the end

then everybody slurped on its ending for like a month
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For me, it's because:
1) bait & switch gameplay when compared with the trailers
2) can't fight Songbird
3) Booker & Comstock being the same person is stupid as hell
4) ending is like Matrix Reloaded where they just dump a whole load plot on you with not much time to digest it
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I enjoyed it more than Bioshock 1 tbqh
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

I think it went over most ppls heads and they tried to defend that by claiming it was convoluted.

Plot holes and creating a cop out ending (that's made useless by the DLC anyway) to avoid wrapping up any of their million loose threads isn't convoluted. It's just shit writing.
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I think one of the turnoffs is that Infinite is less about the world around it and far more about a small group of individuals involved.

Rapture and the concepts behind it were very much the focal point of the older games, whereas Columbia was simply the backdrop of the story of Booker and Elizabeth.

Learning that very little of the Columbia stuff actually matters in the finale can be quite a turnoff.
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Bioshock wasn't that good either, guys. That's why it's on my list of overrated games of all times.
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I liked all 3 games. Bioshock Infinite was just "kill all these guys until that music thing stops".

P much Doom Junior.
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St0rmFury posted...

bait & switch gameplay when compared with the trailers

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Veggeta X posted...

Bioshock wasn't that good either, guys. That's why it's on my list of overrated games of all times.

This, really. The story just felt like a bunch of stuff mashed together, and gameplay wise it was a whole lot of wandering around a city that felt empty and lifeless, and every once in awhile an enemy comes running straight towards you. Too many close quarters enemies for a fps
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If the story of a game is about the protagonist's lingering guilt over the atrocities he's committed in the past, that game should not be an FPS where you mow down dozens of faceless bad guys a minute. The people who wrote the story had the ambition of creating something resembling actual art, but market forces demanded a game be built around that story that completely contradicts the story. It's just an unpleasant slog to actually play through, and not in the charmingly dated way something like Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines is.
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infinite has none of the appeal of the original bioshock.

instead of an immersive sim it's a dumb corridor shooter with Call of Duty gameplay elements.as a result i never felt like you get to explore the world (which is the majority of the appeal of the main game) since you're just blasting from shootout to shootout. no puzzles, two weapons, powers are pointless, etc

dont ask me to recall the story now because i havent played the game in years but at the time i remember thinking it was an incomprehensible mess.i think it was one of those situations where the writers confused complication for depth.
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Bioshock created the buzzword "immersive" into the gaming world like it's innovative or some shit. It's used by many people who have this crippling need to have video games trick their brain into thinking they're in some highly lucid dreamworld. I can play a game fine without forgetting I'm some meatbag sitting in front of a display screen, thanks. What I consider immersion breaking is a power outage, or a game breaking glitch, not some damn minor annoyance. Thankfully this term is rarely used anymore
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Veggeta X posted...

Bioshock created the buzzword "immersive" into the gaming world like it's innovative or some shit. It's used by many people who have this crippling need to have video games trick their brain into thinking they're in some highly lucid dreamworld. I can play a game fine without forgetting I'm some meatbag sitting in front of a display screen, thanks. What I consider immersion breaking is a power outage, or a game breaking glitch, not some damn minor annoyance. Thankfully this term is rarely used anymore

I'm pretty sure 'immersive' always just meant 'super high'.
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I liked it, but the two weapon restriction did bother me a lot. I'm never bothered by a two weapon limit in any other FPS, but I think my issue with Infinite is that it wasn't similar enough to Bioshock. You're more free to experiment in the first Bioshock, and I guess that's really what I wanted out of Infinite as well. It's just not that type of game.
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That bald hack used the term "cognitive dissonance" and all the nerds fell in love with their new favorite words.

Boring af
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Uncle Choad posted...

Bioshock Infinite was just "kill all these guys until that music thing stops".

Applies to GoW, aka GOTY. The stuff that happens in between makes the difference
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Rip Dasubermacht
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

Bioshock Infinite was just "kill all these guys until that music thing stops".

Applies to GoW, aka GOTY. The stuff that happens in between makes the difference

And the stuff between Infinite fucking sucked.
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The game was not nearly as good in gameplay or story wise as BioShock 1 and 2.

The gameplay of BS:I was dumbed down and reduced, you had less you could do and the game was a pale shadow of the first BioShock but instead of the cool thought provoking ideas of Andrew Ryan we got christian religious bullshit.

BioShock 1 and 2 had something to say, and they said it very well, BS:I was just aping BioShock 1 but had none of the impact and was just stupid as fuck with the ideas it brought to the table.
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DrizztLink posted...

2 was better in terms of gameplay for the most part. More streamlined.

1 beat it in story, writing, and atmosphere.

*pets lovingly*
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eston posted...

I enjoyed it more than Bioshock 1 tbqh

This.
Hell, i enjoyed 2 more than 1.

Bioshock had the benefit of introducing a new world, and there were some neat twists in the plot, but i don't understand the pedestal people put it up on.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

Bioshock Infinite was just "kill all these guys until that music thing stops".

Applies to GoW, aka GOTY. The stuff that happens in between makes the difference

And the stuff between Infinite fucking sucked.

That's weird. Id think Id of noticed in my 3 playthroughs. How long did it take you to discover this? I feel so silly :(
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