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spudger
12/19/18 6:54:37 PM
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Tc got rekt this whole topic
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Bishop9800
12/19/18 6:54:52 PM
#52:


Spooking posted...
Comcast and Charter are some of the most liked companies out there


Ok, now you're just trolling
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Space_Man
12/19/18 6:56:03 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Spooking posted...
Comcast and Charter are some of the most liked companies out there


Ok, now you're just trolling

i love comcast. all i had to do was try and cancel on them and they begged me to stay. sometimes they'll randomly call me to check how my internet is doing.

all i need now is to find a girl with some comcast customer support-tier dedication.
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Bio1590
12/19/18 6:56:32 PM
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Space_Man
12/19/18 6:56:50 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
or porn

ok yeah we need NN really bad now.
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Medussa
12/19/18 6:57:17 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Space_Man posted...
Isn't competition already dead? Go to any apartment complex and they'll be like "oh, sorry, Comcast only"

Or traffic as in Netflix speeds versus text-based websites speeds? Like, why does it even matter? I still get 80gbps since all of this happened. Why fix it if it ain't broke? Ya dig

Comcast could throttle Netflix or GameFAQs or porn or whatever without NN. They could throttle pro-union websites or pro-open source websites or anything they want.


they could complete block you from their competition.
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Payzmaykr
12/19/18 6:57:35 PM
#58:


Medussa posted...
why does the staff allow such blatant misinformation to spread on their site?

Posting false information as fact used to be quickly and harshly moderated. why did we ever go away from that?


Because 90% of the stuff you guys declare as false information is actually not false? Maybe that. I literally posted a VIDEO before and you guys tried to dismiss it.

Just because you disagree with something doesnt mean you get to label it as fake.

Also, I dont know how many times I need to explain this, but that rules was SPECIFICALLY written over sharing false info ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. This is a video game website and the rules were not written around political arguments.
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Medussa
12/19/18 6:59:16 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Medussa posted...
why does the staff allow such blatant misinformation to spread on their site?

Posting false information as fact used to be quickly and harshly moderated. why did we ever go away from that?


Because 90% of the stuff you guys declare as false information is actually not false? Maybe that. I literally posted a VIDEO before and you guys tried to dismiss it.

Just because you disagree with something doesnt mean you get to label it as fake.


shockthemonkey posted...
The internet has been a household commodity available for public use since August 6, 1991. However, according to net neutralitys most fervent supporters, the internet didnt truly take off until February 2015, when the FCC passed and adopted the new rules.


Wow only takes till the second paragraph to misrepresent facts and pro-NN stances

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mario2000
12/19/18 7:01:04 PM
#60:


spudger posted...
Tc got rekt this whole topic

must be a day ending in y
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Bio1590
12/19/18 7:04:30 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Medussa posted...
why does the staff allow such blatant misinformation to spread on their site?

Posting false information as fact used to be quickly and harshly moderated. why did we ever go away from that?


Because 90% of the stuff you guys declare as false information is actually not false? Maybe that. I literally posted a VIDEO before and you guys tried to dismiss it.

Just because you disagree with something doesnt mean you get to label it as fake.

Also, I dont know how many times I need to explain this, but that rules was SPECIFICALLY written over sharing false info ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. This is a video game website and the rules were not written around political arguments.

You've already been proven wrong about this many times, please stop repeating it.

Also 90% of stuff that comes out of your brain is false. Like this post.
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Payzmaykr
12/19/18 7:04:38 PM
#63:


RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.

Bingo. Social media platforms are all about data collection and selective, political censorship, which is exactly what net neutrality was over.
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Payzmaykr
12/19/18 7:05:37 PM
#64:


Bio1590 posted...
Payzmaykr posted...
Medussa posted...
why does the staff allow such blatant misinformation to spread on their site?

Posting false information as fact used to be quickly and harshly moderated. why did we ever go away from that?


Because 90% of the stuff you guys declare as false information is actually not false? Maybe that. I literally posted a VIDEO before and you guys tried to dismiss it.

Just because you disagree with something doesnt mean you get to label it as fake.

Also, I dont know how many times I need to explain this, but that rules was SPECIFICALLY written over sharing false info ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. This is a video game website and the rules were not written around political arguments.

You've already been proven wrong about this many times, please stop repeating it.

Also 90% of stuff that comes out of your brain is false. Like this post.

Why dont you ask a moderator? This is a site about video games, not politics. The rule. Is. About. Video. Games.
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Webmaster4531
12/19/18 7:06:31 PM
#65:


Payzmaykr posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.

Bingo. Social media platforms are all about data collection and selective, political censorship, which is exactly what net neutrality was over.

No, it wasn't. Allowing ISPs to throttle competitors is anti-capitalism and anti-consumer.
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Bio1590
12/19/18 7:07:05 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Why dont you ask a moderator? This is a site about video games, not politics. The rule. Is. About. Video. Games.

It's a Message Boards Terms of Use and Message Boards Etiquette.

There are Politics-related Message Boards.

Ergo, the rules apply.
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/19/18 7:11:22 PM
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I think end game, most internet will be wireless/cellular anyway. Dunno how long it'd be, but then competition will hopefully thrive.

It'll probably just be Verizon v Xfinity v Google
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Webmaster4531
12/19/18 7:13:27 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I think end game, most internet will be wireless/cellular anyway. Dunno how long it'd be, but then competition will hopefully thrive.

It'll probably just be Verizon v Xfinity v Google

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20181112/08200141029/look-wireless-sector-investment-is-declining-despite-tax-cuts-repeal-net-neutrality.shtml
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GreatEvilEmpire
12/19/18 7:16:48 PM
#69:


NN fearmongers be like:

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Medussa
12/19/18 7:18:45 PM
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that's not fearmongering, but it is unlikely. the more likely scenario is that comcast blackmails those sites into paying to keep from being throttled.
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GreatEvilEmpire
12/19/18 7:23:04 PM
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Medussa posted...
that's not fearmongering, but it is unlikely. the more likely scenario is that comcast blackmails those sites into paying to keep from being throttled.


That's fearmongering. You don't understand how companies work if you think you can blackmail another giant company.

The only reason the throttling originally happened was because NetFlix took up 50% of network traffic and the ISPs couldn't handle it.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/19/18 7:46:26 PM
#72:


RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.
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Tmaster148
12/19/18 7:56:20 PM
#74:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.


Proudclad gets so butthurt on CE that he had to turn it into a safe space.
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The Great Muta 22
12/19/18 7:58:05 PM
#75:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.


No one who says they are ignoring users is actually ignoring users. How can you expect anyone to believe you?
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Bio1590
12/19/18 8:21:27 PM
#76:


Tmaster148 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.


Proudclad gets so butthurt on CE that he had to turn it into a safe space.

He's lying. He doesn't actually ignore people he just pretends to and then slips up 2 days later.
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Uncle Choad
12/19/18 8:22:49 PM
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Pretty sure none of you know what NN is all about.
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Tmaster148
12/19/18 8:24:04 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.


Proudclad gets so butthurt on CE that he had to turn it into a safe space.

He's lying. He doesn't actually ignore people he just pretends to and then slips up 2 days later.


I'm sure no one who says they are ignoring other users actually has them on ignore. But it's fun to say Proudclad wants a safe space.
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Uncle Choad
12/19/18 8:25:43 PM
#79:


Prime-time on GameFAQS. The incels are arguing about ignoring each other now.
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A_Good_Boy
12/19/18 8:26:53 PM
#81:


Uncle Choad posted...
Prime-time on GameFAQS. The incels are arguing about ignoring each other now.

Always my favorite CE argument.
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sondast
12/19/18 8:28:05 PM
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Let's just repeal every regulation ever made, because companies want what's best for everyone else!
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FLUFFYGERM
12/19/18 9:57:22 PM
#83:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.


No one who says they are ignoring users is actually ignoring users. How can you expect anyone to believe you?


I literally can't see half the posts in the topic.
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Tmaster148
12/19/18 10:06:21 PM
#84:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.


No one who says they are ignoring users is actually ignoring users. How can you expect anyone to believe you?


I literally can't see half the posts in the topic.


Sucks to be you
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Zack_Attackv1
12/20/18 12:36:46 AM
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Bio1590
12/20/18 12:38:33 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Social Media Platforms: If we get rid of net neutrality then Internet Service Providers could discriminate against whomever they want for whatever reason!

Also Social Media Platforms: *Spending the past year discriminating against whomever they want from their platform by permabanning them from it.*

I also gotta say the whole if we get rid of Net Neutrality all this doomsday stuff will occur shit was hysterical. It was Y2K freakout hysterical.


Yep. And I bet the usual suspects are just shitposting rather than being honest.

I can't see any of their posts though so I can't be sure.


No one who says they are ignoring users is actually ignoring users. How can you expect anyone to believe you?


I literally can't see half the posts in the topic.

That's because you're selectively blind though
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Rexdragon125
12/20/18 9:01:39 AM
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No one remembers the Netflix throttling fiasco?

You must really need a selective memory to be such a corporate apologist
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clearaflagrantj
12/20/18 9:34:33 AM
#91:


Space_Man posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
This is like an episode of Dexter where Dexter has Net Neutrality tied to his table in plastic wrap and just circling around it, ready to murder it.

i feel like a shark analogy would've been easier, just saying

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FLUFFYGERM
12/20/18 9:40:24 AM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
No one remembers the Netflix throttling fiasco?

You must really need a selective memory to be such a corporate apologist


So you're whining about corporate apologetics...while doing just that on Netflix's behalf because they had to pay more for contributing more to congestion on the network? LMAO. Video streaming is a very data intensive process.

Btw it's really weird how I didn't see you whine when Chicago imposed a higher tax on Netflix and other cloud services. I reckon those regressive taxes hurt the corporations you like more than having to pay their fair share of network usage.
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Alpha218
12/20/18 9:46:53 AM
#93:


shockthemonkey posted...
Think well see TC again now that everyone called out his bullshit?

Yes? The alt-right doesnt care. The fact that youre even forced to debate ridiculous statements like the OP means theyve won to begin with.
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SuperShake666
12/20/18 9:56:39 AM
#95:


I can't fathom choosing to live life buried in such ignorance of anything. It sounds so exhausting to actively avoid information and deny basic facts.

I truly don't understand how people like Proudclod choose to live like that.
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Tmaster148
12/20/18 9:59:34 AM
#96:


SuperShake666 posted...
I can't fathom choosing to live life buried in such ignorance of anything. It sounds so exhausting to actively avoid information and deny basic facts.

I truly don't understand how people like Proudclod choose to live like that.


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Rexdragon125
12/20/18 10:00:21 AM
#97:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...
No one remembers the Netflix throttling fiasco?

You must really need a selective memory to be such a corporate apologist


So you're whining about corporate apologetics...while doing just that on Netflix's behalf because they had to pay more for contributing more to congestion on the network? LMAO. Video streaming is a very data intensive process.

Btw it's really weird how I didn't see you whine when Chicago imposed a higher tax on Netflix and other cloud services. I reckon those regressive taxes hurt the corporations you like more than having to pay their fair share of network usage.

That's not the full story... Yup, selective memory. You're the one making it about corporate fanboyism. Are you still in Chicago? It seems unhealthy for you man
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FLUFFYGERM
12/20/18 10:31:54 AM
#98:


btw just to be clear, Comcast is a shitty company and I'm not looking to defend their business practices.

This topic is solely about the extent of the fearmongering we saw over repealing some late 2015 regulations. Fearmongering that would've been much more appropriate for the Australian and EU bullshit making its way through the courts. Sadly that fearmongering was nowhere to be found.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/20/18 10:35:33 AM
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and i see that no one addressed RoadsterUFO's salient point about how you lot are actually perfectly fine with unfair internet rules when it's done to censor people you disagree with.

there is no open and free internet as long as a few giant players like paypal or amazon or etc hold the keys to the platform as a whole. regardless of any "net neutrality" laws that make it easier for high-traffic cloud services to stay in business
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Were_Wyrm
12/20/18 10:36:42 AM
#100:


Thats like saying "Rams big offseason moves: The Superbowl Win That Never Came" in week 5 of the season
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