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Alakazamtrainer
12/18/18 2:54:06 PM
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Alfonso Ribeiro is the latest celeb who's got beef with Fortnite's pop culture-influenced dances -- and now he's suing the creators of the game for jacking his own.

The former 'Fresh Prince' star just filed suit against Epic Games -- which developed the crazy popular multi-player game -- claiming the company completely ripped off the famous dance his character, Carlton Banks, did on the show throughout the series.

https://bit.ly/2S9rPGb

Think they should pay up?
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Kuudere_Loli
12/18/18 2:54:52 PM
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Fartnite needs to go away
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Payzmaykr
12/18/18 2:55:23 PM
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If the dances were legally copyrighted, then they should pay. If theyre not, then they shouldnt pay them.
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eston
12/18/18 2:56:05 PM
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Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it
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SH_expert44
12/18/18 2:56:16 PM
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myzz7
12/18/18 2:56:33 PM
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didn't know a person could copyright a dance.
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Ambience
12/18/18 2:56:56 PM
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eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

Destiny definitely had an emote for this dance
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Shotgunnova
12/18/18 2:57:31 PM
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Shut up, Carlton.
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OctilIery
12/18/18 2:58:32 PM
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myzz7 posted...
didn't know a person could copyright a dance.

You can't. You can copyright a choreograph routine, but not a couple moves.
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Jaded_Dragon
12/18/18 2:58:37 PM
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https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-to-copyright-a-dance

When Does Copyright Protection Begin?

Copyright protection for a dance begins as soon as the dance is created and fixed in a tangible object. It does not need to be registered with the copyright office to receive copyright protection. Copyright protection generally lasts for the lifetime of the dances creator and another 70 years after the creators death.

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Vyrulisse
12/18/18 2:58:41 PM
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FrisbeeDude
12/18/18 2:58:48 PM
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Epic is making money hand over first. They could've simply paid the man and garnered the good PR. either that or crowd source the community for dance ideas.
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Alakazamtrainer
12/18/18 3:00:57 PM
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I think the issue they (both Alonzo backpack kid and 2 others) are having is they just added them in rather then asking first
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Jaded_Dragon
12/18/18 3:01:55 PM
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I don't think Marlon Webb or Nathan Barnatt are suing, but like... Epic... just stop stealing.
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OctilIery
12/18/18 3:02:24 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
I don't think Marlon Webb or Nathan Barnatt are suing, but like... Epic... just stop stealing.

Dance moves can't be copywritten.
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Alakazamtrainer
12/18/18 3:08:43 PM
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@OctilIery posted...
myzz7 posted...
didn't know a person could copyright a dance.

You can't. You can copyright a choreograph routine, but not a couple moves.


Jaded_Dragon posted...
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-to-copyright-a-dance

When Does Copyright Protection Begin?

Copyright protection for a dance begins as soon as the dance is created and fixed in a tangible object. It does not need to be registered with the copyright office to receive copyright protection. Copyright protection generally lasts for the lifetime of the dances creator and another 70 years after the creators death.

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SterlingM
12/18/18 3:11:47 PM
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hopefully we can collectively kill this fad

kids should be doing something better with their lives
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OctilIery
12/18/18 3:28:49 PM
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Alakazamtrainer posted...
@OctilIery posted...
myzz7 posted...
didn't know a person could copyright a dance.

You can't. You can copyright a choreograph routine, but not a couple moves.


Jaded_Dragon posted...
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-to-copyright-a-dance

When Does Copyright Protection Begin?

Copyright protection for a dance begins as soon as the dance is created and fixed in a tangible object. It does not need to be registered with the copyright office to receive copyright protection. Copyright protection generally lasts for the lifetime of the dances creator and another 70 years after the creators death.

Read the first sentence there. It's taking about choreography, not just a single dance move.
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Were_Wyrm
12/18/18 3:30:51 PM
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eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.
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Prestoff
12/18/18 3:40:19 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.


Does it cost real money for the dance emotes?
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CommonStar
12/18/18 3:41:54 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Were_Wyrm posted...
eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.


Does it cost real money for the dance emotes?

Yes
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OffTempo
12/18/18 3:41:56 PM
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Theres no case in suing the default dance. Epic isn't making money off of Alfonso's dance, its free for everyone to use.
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Orlando_Jordan
12/18/18 3:41:57 PM
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Fortnite is a massively embarrassing PUBG ripoff.
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Prestoff
12/18/18 3:42:57 PM
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CommonStar posted...
Prestoff posted...
Were_Wyrm posted...
eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.


Does it cost real money for the dance emotes?

Yes


Oh if so he might have a case then.
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OffTempo
12/18/18 3:44:56 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Were_Wyrm posted...
eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.


Does it cost real money for the dance emotes?

Alfonso's dance is free for everyone to use
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CommonStar
12/18/18 3:45:43 PM
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OffTempo posted...
Theres no case in suing the default dance. Epic isn't making money off of Alfonso's dance, its free for everyone to use.

Pretty sure the default dance is Turk's dance from Scrubs.
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OctilIery
12/18/18 3:46:34 PM
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Prestoff posted...
CommonStar posted...
Prestoff posted...
Were_Wyrm posted...
eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.


Does it cost real money for the dance emotes?

Yes


Oh if so he might have a case then.

It wouldn't be a good case no matter what they charged, you can't copyright a dance move.
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Orlando_Jordan
12/18/18 3:47:56 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Prestoff posted...
CommonStar posted...
Prestoff posted...
Were_Wyrm posted...
eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.


Does it cost real money for the dance emotes?

Yes


Oh if so he might have a case then.

It wouldn't be a good case no matter what they charged, you can't copyright a dance move.

I hope he wins, because selling dance moves as DLC in a game is part of what's killing gaming.
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OctilIery
12/18/18 4:20:49 PM
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Orlando_Jordan posted...
OctilIery posted...
Prestoff posted...
CommonStar posted...
Prestoff posted...
Were_Wyrm posted...
eston posted...
Is this the first time he's ever had a problem with someone using it? Because Fortnite certainly isn't the first ones to do it

I think its more along the lines of Epic is selling the dance, in other games such as WoW and Destiny it was free.


Does it cost real money for the dance emotes?

Yes


Oh if so he might have a case then.

It wouldn't be a good case no matter what they charged, you can't copyright a dance move.

I hope he wins, because selling dance moves as DLC in a game is part of what's killing gaming.

LOL no
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TES_Nut
12/18/18 4:29:47 PM
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Orlando_Jordan posted...
It wouldn't be a good case no matter what they charged, you can't copyright a dance move.


Jaded_Dragon posted...
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-to-copyright-a-dance

When Does Copyright Protection Begin?

Copyright protection for a dance begins as soon as the dance is created and fixed in a tangible object. It does not need to be registered with the copyright office to receive copyright protection. Copyright protection generally lasts for the lifetime of the dances creator and another 70 years after the creators death.

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darkphoenix181
12/18/18 4:44:08 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-to-copyright-a-dance

When Does Copyright Protection Begin?

Copyright protection for a dance begins as soon as the dance is created and fixed in a tangible object. It does not need to be registered with the copyright office to receive copyright protection. Copyright protection generally lasts for the lifetime of the dances creator and another 70 years after the creators death.


Too bad that ownership is likely the studio that owns the show and not him unless he created it outside of work.
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OctilIery
12/18/18 8:27:37 PM
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TES_Nut posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
It wouldn't be a good case no matter what they charged, you can't copyright a dance move.


Jaded_Dragon posted...
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-to-copyright-a-dance

When Does Copyright Protection Begin?

Copyright protection for a dance begins as soon as the dance is created and fixed in a tangible object. It does not need to be registered with the copyright office to receive copyright protection. Copyright protection generally lasts for the lifetime of the dances creator and another 70 years after the creators death.

That's talking about dance choreography, not individual moves.
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