Current Events > Have you played the original Metroid?

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Have you CE?
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yep. vastly prefer it with the LUA script that lets you toggle beams and has a map though
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ive played it but never beat it. that sounds like itd be annoying tbh.

zero mission is better in just about every way
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I tried playing it, gave up because it didn't age well at all, then played and beat Zero Mission instead.
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SSJCAT posted...

ive played it but never beat it. that sounds like itd be annoying tbh.

there are better ways to spend your time with videogames
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Zero Mission, yes. Never the OG though.
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I've played it. It's really bad lol

probably impressive for its time, but unlike other games that were impressive for their time and still fun now it's just slow, clunky, looks ugly and is infuriating to play in many aspects
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Ive played the original. It kinda sucks. I got the 100% under 2 hours ending in Zero Mission
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I have played it and I like it. I'm working on beating it. I haven't played Zero Mission yet.
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Alpha218 posted...

Ive played the original. It kinda sucks. I got the 100% under 2 hours ending in Zero Mission

It's frustrating how close to being right the original is, tbh.

Honestly you could easily fix it with:

Long Beam to start
Ship/Location to restore energy (you could only have one location for this and it'd be infinitely better than it currently is)
Enemies don't follow you through doors, killing your health/you. Also enemies that don't respawn when they're 15 pixels off screen
A smidge faster movement

tbh i don't even really think you need a map though it'd be nice, if a bit limited given the hardware.
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Many years ago.
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Duh.
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I hate the first Metroid. It aged terribly and is a pain to play. I love Zero Mission, though.
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Yeah and it's plagued by the same problems as a lot of games from that era. It would be great if Capcom had developed it.
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i beat like half of it and quit. tried playing it after i beat zero mission and it's just so hard to try and go back to the original.

metroid 2 has a lot of the same problem. i tried playing the original years ago and it just didn't age well. i loved the remake and the fan made remake though.

DevsBro posted...

Zero Mission, yes. Never the OG though.

better bust out that online sub for nintendo and get access to metroid and special metroid
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I've beaten it with the best ending using a map. Probably couldn't beat it at all without the map.
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Dark_SilverX posted...

DevsBro posted...

Zero Mission, yes. Never the OG though.

better bust out that online sub for nintendo and get access to metroid and special metroid

Special Metroid?

OG Metroid is an unlockable in ZM so I always could; I just haven't gotten around to it.
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I've tried the original, but would always drop it after playing it a bit. I did beat Zero Mission which I loved.
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I played it as a kid and thought it was kind of cool that you could basically free roam, but it was always too hard and confusing.

I tried replaying it over the years and still didn't like it. Just tried it again when it came out on Switch and I still think the controls and combat are terrible.

I'm sure I tried Zero Mission too, but I don't remember it.

Damn. Lol @ the crybabies in this thread. I beat this game with no map on my original NES back when I was 10. Its actually one of the easier Nintendo games.
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BeyondWalls posted...

Damn. Lol @ the crybabies in this thread. I beat this game with no map on my original NES back when I was 10. Its actually one of the easier Nintendo games.

It's less about the difficulty and more about the enemies being overly frustrating due to Samus' aiming controls. They're constantly flying around above you and respawning, but you can only aim straight up/down or try to jump and shoot them. Diagonal aiming would have made it much better.

I don't mind frustrating or difficult NES games, like Mega Man, but Metroid was so frustrating it just made me not want to bother trying.

Never played any. I had an NES growing up, but after that my Switch is my first Nintendo console aside from handhelds
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I've never played a Metroid game.
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i played it a good deal but not a great game IMO. i don't think i ever beat it even with the Justin bailey code though i did watch it get beat a few times by my brother and his friends.
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The original is too....archaic for me to enjoy, the controls and jumping physics are horrid. The music and atmosphere are on point though
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I had the original on NES as a kid but never beat it. I beat Zero Mission when I was older.
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I played and "beat" it with save states and a map. I don't have the time or patience to do it the hard way.
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Played for about 10 minutes within Metroid Prime.

Played it a lot in its heyday, beat it as an adult using a map.

BeyondWalls posted...

Damn. Lol @ the crybabies in this thread. I beat this game with no map on my original NES back when I was 10. Its actually one of the easier Nintendo games.

honestly, being able to stop in a lot of places and just farm up health makes it easier than games where you can't.... except for the fact it's hard to not just stop playing out of boredom.

I never completely finished the game as a kid (did kraid+ridley though) and the game just feels poorly designed in a lot of ways that really stick out in the face of newer games with a similar system. Reloading at full hp would have made the game a lot better without changing it that much
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Own the original cart from when I was a kid. I AM OLD.

BeyondWalls posted...

Damn. Lol @ the crybabies in this thread. I beat this game with no map on my original NES back when I was 10. Its actually one of the easier Nintendo games.

I 100% cleared Metroid II. I wouldnt say I really enjoyed it as much as I would if it was a modern day Metroid game, because the quality of life improvement the series has gotten since the NES is massive.
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kirbymuncher posted...

honestly, being able to stop in a lot of places and just farm up health makes it easier than games where you can't.... except for the fact it's hard to not just stop playing out of boredom.

I never completely finished the game as a kid (did kraid+ridley though) and the game just feels poorly designed in a lot of ways that really stick out in the face of newer games with a similar system. Reloading at full hp would have made the game a lot better without changing it that much

the enemies that spawn out of pipes, horizontal attack location depending on where you were really breaks the game in some parts.

you can either abuse it or you'll be finishing a jump and they'll be head height and hurt you but you can't attack them. and they move just fast enough that unless you're instantly morph balling upon touching the ground, you're getting hit.

It's a game where it'd take a lot of patience to do it damageless/very minimal amount of damage, if not straight up impossible.

Other notable things is stuff like the Kraid fight and Mother Brain fight just being a straight up mess of attacks.

I'm not gonna claim it's expertly designed but it's far from poorly designed. It's about the epitome of a 7 or 7.5/10 game is. Perfectly serviceable as is but has notable issues that could be fixed to make the game better. Fortunately they took all lessons learned from Metroid and refined them into a genre defining sequel with Super.
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even Metroid 2 was a huge improvement. i played the shit out of that on Gameboy.
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So I'm gonna go on record having said the Zero Suit part of ZM is awful.
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I forgot how awful Turian is.

there's literally no alternative to getting hit.

you're going to get hit.

the level and enemy design is in no way conducive to ensuring a way to not get hit. Not without focusing on everything but your main objective (the tubes and Mother Brain).

tbh it wouldn't even be half as bad/annoying if there was just like two less things on screen at any given time. One less loop shooter and one less wall shooter. but i guess throwing all the shit at the wall was acceptable back in 1986

For example, before I even got to the Mother Brain hallway, I opened a missile door, and in the process of finishing off the last Metroid in the room, a loop hits me, hits me again, knocks me through the door and, for good fucking measure, hit me twice more during the transition.
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I do hate that. Died several times because some little shit came through the door and took the last bit of my health.
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